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H3ISEN OP t1_iwymy80 wrote
And thank you for your praise.
H3ISEN OP t1_iwynklv wrote
I used Alios Kraft paper. It’s around 15 grams per square meter. It’s durable, holds creases well and I’ve used it for hundreds of models.
Namjoon- t1_iwynyod wrote
Amazing. Thanks for the info!
Dryneck123 t1_iwyoyna wrote
That's incredible, great job!
ArtistocrArt t1_iwz1rih wrote
Looks dope! The texture of the paper adds to its ruggedness
TheoTheHellhound t1_iwz2hp2 wrote
To say I’m impressed would be an understatement! Your folding is masterful, op!
FitBoog t1_iwz4mjv wrote
How long does these models last until it starts to decompose (I guess)?
This is very nice
PartialViewer t1_iwz6a3t wrote
Nice, I was 100% ready to believe that this was a real beetle.
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SalesAutopsy t1_iwz8q4r wrote
The Japanese space agency JAXA used the folding of one thousand cranes as one of the tests for candidates of its astronaut program.[1]
Big_D_yup t1_iwz8tt3 wrote
36 minutes.
H3ISEN OP t1_iwzb6ha wrote
I don’t have a video of myself folding it but there are origami time lapse videos of people folding complex out there. It took me 8-9 hours I think.
GarglenutsBumblebutt t1_iwzbaau wrote
Paper Mario Origami King has trained me that I need to smash this with a giant mallet to unfold a toad person.
H3ISEN OP t1_iwzbnrt wrote
The diagrams are in the book “Origami Masters Bugs: How the Bug Wars Changed the Art of Origami”.
theveryrealreal t1_iwzbroq wrote
Yeah, I would do a little poo if I saw this in my cabinet. Frighteningly realistic.
BurningOrangeHeaven t1_iwzcpvx wrote
If you threw this on me I would panic like crazy thinking its a giant bug haha
loops_____ t1_iwzdbcl wrote
Really want to get started doing origami. Do you have any suggestions on where or how to start?
bekindorelse t1_iwze2wm wrote
As long as the humidity is under 30% and the sun is shining from the west.
AnalFluid1 t1_iwzet3n wrote
You must roll supreme joints.
GetBuggered t1_iwzf7pj wrote
I would not be able to pull that off of my life depended on it. How crazy to conceptualize all those folds in your mind!
ChainIndividual5531 t1_iwzfeg4 wrote
if they put this in my room I would never sleep again for fear of that beak eating my ass at night....
xArbilx t1_iwziemw wrote
No creases were made after midnight.
Afireonthesnow t1_iwzincl wrote
Always got confused how one square of paper could make that many legs without any cuts. Just doesn't seem possible!
tapport t1_iwzjh3p wrote
That’s amazing, thanks for the info. What are the dimensions of the final piece you have here?
trickertron t1_iwzkk3y wrote
No, but he rolls a mean roach
Farmeatsleap t1_iwzlyb7 wrote
My mind is blown, this is insane
nullagravida t1_iwzm2d5 wrote
ok so I have a question about origami— is it paper sculpture, where you push and pull until the desired results take shape? or is it a mathematical thing where you plan out the folds and then go step by step to what was designed?
if it’s the first one I can get behind it, mentally. but if it’s the second one NGL it sounds like the worst kind of tedium
-neti-neti- t1_iwzm3wp wrote
I ask this question anytime I have an opportunity and have never gotten an answer.
In my opinion, it seems a bit “loose” to call paper that is aggressively curved and twisted “origami”. To me it seems as if it should be purely clean folds. Am I completely wrong? What is the consensus in the community?
neacal t1_iwzm5ej wrote
This comment bugs me so much, looks more like 120 content to me.
mossybeard t1_iwzm6fg wrote
Judging by the wood grain, about 2.5 inches wide, and 3-3.5 inches long
neuromorph t1_iwzmlya wrote
How do you get more than 4 legs if ots uncut?
H3ISEN OP t1_iwzmn8d wrote
So this kind of origami is known as box pleated which means that the starting square is made into a grid through folding and unfolding, then the crease pattern (which is basically a map of all the folds) is creases onto the paper using the grid points as references. The folding requires no math as I got the diagrams from a book. Designing requires some math but it can be done without math.
pinky1138 t1_iwzmszf wrote
Not OP but I’ve been doing origami for on and off 20 years now so feel qualified to answer….
I would say the best way to start is to get hold of some books - charity/thrift shops and libraries are your friends here. And of course YouTube is your friend for videos. Most books have a clear glossary of the folding techniques you’ll need to learn and the technical language used - refer back to these as often as you need to. You won’t learn everything in a day. I personally prefer using diagrams rather than videos to make models, that way I can make notes on the instructions as I fold it. Start with simple stuff - it’ll be tempting to try amazing or more complex looking stuff but walk before you can run, having the fundamentals of folding down pat will great aid your precision in the long run. Equipment wise you don’t really need anything - but I would recommend a bone folder. These are like £4 from Amazon or wherever, and they’re great to get precise creases with minimal effort. Paper wise, I’d use cheap stuff until you’re more confident, and you usually want the thinner the better. There are a plethora of different paper types to use, I buy from www.origami-shop.com And don’t forget to have fun, happy folding!
Arigomi t1_iwzmxea wrote
There is a very vigorous and systematic process behind origami models of this level of complexity. Here is a video that explains the different levels of origami complexity.
nullagravida t1_iwzn1sw wrote
is there a video or something showing the technique? this is great thanks for starting to explain it. nobody ever seems to do that for us outsiders.
blackcatt42 t1_iwzn2hp wrote
I struggle to make an airplane
inpotheenveritas t1_iwznkjz wrote
I like what you did there.
H3ISEN OP t1_iwznmxn wrote
So legs or any appendages come from points on the paper with a radius that give each of the limbs length. These points can be on the corners, edges and anywhere on the surface. This beetle is like a fifth of the size of the starting sheet so most of that paper goes to the legs.
loops_____ t1_iwzq0yw wrote
Is there a book you’d recommend for beginners? Something that shows the fundamentals while making some increasingly cool stuff at the same time. I remember seeing a One A Day origami book years back, but I forget what it was…
As far as paper, should I buy those pre-cut square papers or a big roll and cut it out myself? The big roll is a lot cheaper.
Vusarix t1_iwzsq9u wrote
Alios kraft isn't an overly popular choice for complex origami. Many origamists treat their own paper with methyl cellulose glue, with the most popular option being double tissue, followed by wenzhou
GetBuggered t1_iwzsrl0 wrote
Watching that now. Thank you for sharing it!
Vusarix t1_iwzter3 wrote
Check out Robert Lang's TED talk. He gives a brief overview of one of the underlying ideas behind making lots of flaps, called circle packing. This model looks boxpleated (based on a square grid) in which case circle packing isn't the design technique used, but the fundamental idea is the same
Vusarix t1_iwzu9yn wrote
The only real restrictions on origami are no cutting, and models requiring multiple sheets are expected to have locking mechanisms which make it possible to keep them together without glue (though glue is not forbidden and is encouraged to be used in shaping). Paper doesn't even need to be square, it's just desirable. Curves and twists are completely acceptable, and curved origami is its own niche little area rarely explored due to the difficulty of making a clean curved fold. Jun Mitani is a master of this style.
Vusarix t1_iwzuogp wrote
The Plant Psychologist has a video series on origami design, with much of the course covering boxpleating (bp) design
thatG_evanP t1_iwzuta7 wrote
I literally thought it was a real insect!
Arigomi t1_iwzvb59 wrote
It is still origami because there is no such thing as purely clean folds. You opinion is based upon a semantic definition rather than a functional one. Paper might look 2 dimensional from a distance, but it is a 3 dimensional material.
Even the simplest origami models create layers of paper where nothing is truly flat. Paper itself has a tendency to flex and buckle at the creases. Many folders learn to adapt to the variance introduced by paper thickness.
What you have labeled as aggressive twists in complex models are not achieved by such a blunt method. They are flaps where numerous folds have converged. Like the accordion folds in a paper fan, there are many layers that add bulk to the appendage. You cannot haphazardly twist this to produce the final rounded shape. The creases concentrated in the area make it more prone to tearing.
-neti-neti- t1_iwzvzw4 wrote
Thank you for an answer. So I guess it’s just a matter of taste.
-neti-neti- t1_iwzw7ck wrote
Understood. For example in this piece, the antennae look to me like they’re just “forced” into that bent/curved shape, rather than it being the result of engineered folds - am I wrong?
NamesAreStillHard t1_iwzx3mu wrote
Zooming in shows some of the work that went on underneath, it's pretty damn impressive.
Arigomi t1_iwzyt48 wrote
In simple terms, appendages are made from flaps. Multiple flaps can be created if you repeat the pattern of creases used to make a flap.
To illustrate this concept, think of accordion folding a sheet of paper to make a paper fan. Each rectangular ridge of the fan is a flap. It is not a very useful shape for a flap, because it is too short and too wide. Fortunately, there are various techniques in origami to make flaps in other shapes.
GiloronQT t1_iwzyty0 wrote
I just watched this after I read your comment, really great recommendation!
Arigomi t1_ix01atk wrote
As a beginner, practice with whatever paper you have lying around. Basically any paper you would throw into the recycling bin. Learning the fundamentals requires being comfortable with making mistakes along the way. You aren't going to appreciate the advantages of origami paper until you know what you are doing.
2-2-7-7 t1_ix01gjy wrote
rs3 bad
JurassiCarnivor t1_ix01xpl wrote
I’ve played too much Mass Effect. It looks great! But my first thought was: REAPER!!!
H3ISEN OP t1_ix02piq wrote
I have used Unryu treated methyl cellulose for origami and double tissue. Both are exceptional.
Colourblindknight t1_ix02zdc wrote
I have to know, if you didn’t cut the paper, how did you manage to get the legs and antennae so separate? Amazing work, OP!
Vusarix t1_ix03iwv wrote
I have some unryu sitting around but have never found an excuse to use it
biotechknowledgey t1_ix04esa wrote
Amazing skills you have there! Looks totally life-like!
hampelmann2022 t1_ix05zhj wrote
How long did it take you to learn the skills and how long did you fold it ?
KeepItTidyZA t1_ix063pl wrote
are you sure your GSM is correct? I buy paper for a printing company and the thinnest we use is 48 gram and it's nearly transparent and tears very easily. I can't imagine a paper 5 times thinner.
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H3ISEN OP t1_ix06st9 wrote
Took me about 8-9 hours to fold. Took around ten years and thousands of hours to learn and practice the skills required by folding other origami models.
DippyDave66 t1_ix073ou wrote
That is a little too realistic
mamaBiskothu t1_ix08rlc wrote
I’m assuming an origami novice wouldn’t just be able to do this ? What do you recommend to someone who can barely make a ship that floats
No-Twist-510 t1_ix096i4 wrote
Without rs3 theres no osrs
Jigsaw_isnt_a_puppet t1_ix0an5a wrote
I first thought that was a fancy rolled up joint
ontopofyourmom t1_ix0baqs wrote
Purpose-designed small-batch Japanese paper made for hand-folding, not machine-printing?
It's fundamentally different than anything your company buys.
KeepItTidyZA t1_ix0bqms wrote
okay cool! interesting. will look into it.
ashleighbuck t1_ix0cdvj wrote
This is great!! Looks very complicated, and is done very well 🥰
neuromorph t1_ix0cr9k wrote
Thanks that makes sense
bluefire0120 t1_ix0d69n wrote
H3ISEN OP t1_ix0dscf wrote
One uncut piece of paper
Skreamies t1_ix0dydc wrote
Absolutely wild, looks awesome!
SciFiChickie t1_ix0eue3 wrote
Me to myself: That looks like it’s made of paper what’s the post say? Oh it IS made of paper!
It’s looks so real. Thanks for sharing. 😎
redstaplerguy t1_ix0fc3b wrote
Ngl OP, without reading your caption this would’ve scared the bejeesus out of me. So lifelike!!!
FishstickJones t1_ix0i7i9 wrote
I only know how to make a balloon, but this makes me want to try other stuff
No_Landscape_7720 t1_ix0knam wrote
My dumb brain is saying I can do that
martinaylett t1_ix0lmb6 wrote
That is a masterpiece! I’m absolutely impressed with the skill you’ve demonstrated. It is truly a work of art.
hampelmann2022 t1_ix0lq5n wrote
Awesome …
RoofExciting8272 t1_ix0o84g wrote
I thought this was a crazy fancy joint
reddit__scrub t1_ix0rim4 wrote
I thought it was real until OP said "folded by me" then it clicked that the Beatles genus/order was actually just an adjective.
rsatrioadi t1_ix0usig wrote
From a 7cm × 7cm paper? That’s insane! Kudos!
5ahn3t0rt3 t1_ix0uy6d wrote
Try origami cranes. There are a lot of instructions out there.
Kitakitakita t1_ix0v7zv wrote
I eont understand how you can get 8 thin protrusions from a square piece of paper without cutting it
jofromthething t1_ix0vema wrote
I believe OP said it took 8-9 hours to make and some speciality paper so it’s probably a huge undertaking in general, but there’s likely no harm in trying lol
00PublicAcct t1_ix0wo71 wrote
There are specialty origami papers (or more commonly, specialty japanese or other asian printmaking papers adopted by origami artists) that are much thinner and tougher than commercially available ones. I do not know where they found 15gsm Kraft since the most common manufacturer used by origami artists, Gascogne Alios Kraft, only makes papers down to 30~ gsm. The lightest paper I've found online was 5~ gsm kozo (a japanese tissue paper) and the lightest I own is 12~ gsm kozo, but I haven't folded it yet. Two well known Western specialty origami paper manufacturers are Paper Circle which makes O-gami, and Origamido. For both, their lightest commercial papers are around 20 gsm but I think they'd try to make lighter ones for custom orders. both papers are incredibly durable and feel almost miraculous to fold if you're used to just crappy 6 inch kami/ "origami paper".
Note that density (weight/area) does not perfectly correlate with thickness but it's usually used as shorthand.
00PublicAcct t1_ix0wuao wrote
If they indeed used Alios Kraft, it's a French product and is machine-made. But I can't find Alios Kraft lighter than 30gsm
00PublicAcct t1_ix0x7ea wrote
Should be about 5 inches long based on the given length ratio in Origami Masters Bugs , the book it was published in.
didntgettheruns t1_ix0xwzi wrote
You should record and post a time-lapse if you do something like this again :)
I really want to see how something like this is even made.
H3ISEN OP t1_ix0yrr8 wrote
It’s 50cm by 50cm not 7cm.
owleealeckza t1_ix10ivr wrote
Very cool but also realistic somewhat. If I saw that, I'd run away lol.
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PokenRamer t1_ix15ucj wrote
oh i saw this in the origami - dan! Good job fellow origamist!
brave-new-world t1_ix1irz2 wrote
That seems a little ridiculous
Lockjawjak t1_ix1jpvr wrote
I second this
Tohill_ART t1_ix1jrc1 wrote
I can hear it skittering around in my lunch sack.
good_life_choices t1_ix1uu2q wrote
There is just no way that after 10 hours your upvotes are sitting at a perfect 420. There are forces at play here keeping this balance.
CliffMcFitzsimmons t1_ix2bkaq wrote
Then don't go to Japanese space
ArbutusPhD t1_ix2cms2 wrote
Me: that is huge
Thirteen year old me: yeah, it’s UNCUT
Tuffaddrat t1_ix2f53h wrote
Super cool seeing origami on here, and for the post to be so popular. It's not somthing that is at the forefront of my mind when I think art, and that means I need to admire more origami.
cy13erpunk t1_ix2fleu wrote
origami is truly amazing
topology and art
math is wonderful
ultimate_obtainable t1_ix2g6pt wrote
That looks amazing! the details, the folds and the crumple oh myyy. I only know how to make a boat origami, the simple one lol!
rsatrioadi t1_ix2jvli wrote
Well that is 2500cm² then, not 50cm². Still fucking impressive!
AvengeWorthy42 t1_ix2ldvn wrote
And I still can’t make a paper airplane. Awesome work, the both of you!
jollyflyingcactus t1_ix2npcr wrote
Ha! That was an awesome response. Deserved every award you got.
jollyflyingcactus t1_ix2nrqk wrote
Wow. Amazing! Awesome job!
lite4caleb t1_ix2wpsa wrote
i thought it was a fucking lizard
WirlVortex t1_iwymwis wrote
Wow, thanks for sharing that