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Accooler99 t1_jbfq5sj wrote

Or you could spend like $5 on cable protectors

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websterhamster t1_jbfr1o0 wrote

If fraying is the problem, maybe you need a mouse with a rubber insulated cable.

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sacredxsecret t1_jbfsfpr wrote

I've been using the same basic Dell mouse on my work computer over 40 hours a week for six years now, and no fraying. What are you doing to yours?

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Xx420PAWGhunter69xX t1_jbftz7m wrote

I like my razer cable bungee, it no longer drags on the table.

I dislike logitechs software a lot now for mice if gaming is your thing.

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Roguewolfe t1_jbfwevx wrote

Replying to barbarapalvinswhore (#2,187,306)

Because the input latency and CPU load is exponentially lower with a wired mouse. That matters to most people, and to some people matters a lot. I am one of those people. You can make the argument that the load is low, and that's absolutely true, but it's still a load, and there's still additional lag, however little.

Wireless DACs on both sides (transmitter + receiver) introduces an additional processing step to allow the radio signal transmission and decoding. Wired bypasses all of that and requires no digital to analog conversion and back again - it just stays digital the whole time.

There are many situations in which a wireless mouse is better - particularly with laptops, air travel, etc. A gaming rig is not one of those situations, and that's why I prefer wired for that. I use a wireless mouse for work stuff. Other people don't care and use a wireless mouse for everything, and that's ok too.

Edit: lol "tHeRe's LeSs LaG nOW" ok neat, I agree, but there's still lag, everything I said is still true, use whatever mouse you want. Putting a battery in things that don't need it is beyond stupid, though.

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Roguewolfe t1_jbfx3fu wrote

OP - I share your preference for wired mice, for all of the regular reasons.

May I recommend this to prevent cord fraying: a mouse cable holder. It actually works quite well at preventing fraying, and also slightly reduces overall drag.

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Erosip t1_jbfy1wg wrote

I recommend the Logitech MX Master. Costs around $80-$100. Great sensor and fast pulling rate for low latency. It is both a wired and wireless mouse. The cable is able to be detached and replaced with whatever USB cable you want. You can throw on a Kevlar braided cable for $30 that will last you years, or a cheap plastic one and replace it after it’s destroyed in a couple months. No cable will last forever so a replaceable cable is the best BIFL option. Plus you can also use the wireless in a pinch.

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owlpellet t1_jbfyhxw wrote

My tech office shared workstations use SteelSeries Sensei Laser Gaming Mouse. Bombproof, high precision, ergonomic. Fabric cable housing. Using one about five years old, never think about it.

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shannon_g t1_jbfyuqe wrote

Replying to Erosip (#2,187,695)

This is the greatest mouse I’ve ever used and a great callout on the cable being replaceable should it wear out. Have the original version for 10 years and only got the latest one because it’s easier to switch between two devices wirelessly

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PLEASE_STOP_it_hurts t1_jbfzjot wrote

Replying to Roguewolfe (#2,187,617)

Meh. This is advice from a decade ago. Wireless mice have come a long way. Latency is generally considered a non issue for any half competent gaming mice and the performance hit is hardly a massive load compared to the power of modern systems. If you're spending the money on a decent mouse, you've probably already got a computer powerful enough that it's a non issue.

Of course, if you're on a tight budget, wired all the way. It's cheaper and cheap wireless mice are gonna be much worse than cheap wired mice.

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insanok t1_jbg1yvv wrote

Replying to Erosip (#2,187,695)

I'm not sure this is a wired mouse anymore. It looks like the old version could be used both ways but the current model logotech sells is wireless only, but can charge while you use.

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5spd4wd t1_jbg202z wrote

I use the wired mouse that came with my HP desktop some years ago. Fraying? No idea what you mean. They're encased in soft plastic, that stuff doesn't fray.

The mouse I use with my old computer from 2008 is the same, will never fray.

WTH kind of mouses have you been buying?

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warlordcs t1_jbg2jii wrote

Replying to owlpellet (#2,187,710)

I use the same and it's been in use for a while, I don't think they even make them the same anymore. I tried one of the newer ones and the side buttons were hard to push because they were recessed

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insanok t1_jbg3ehp wrote

Replying to PLEASE_STOP_it_hurts (#2,187,760)

I have a workstation and a logitech wireless mouse often stutters across the screen to the point of unusability. Wired mouse plugged in, zero problems.

I'm not sure if it's due to the specific receiver or a motherboard/ builtin usb hub incompatibility problem - but it's the only computer I have problems with. It happens when booted in Windows and Linux.

A very powerful computer struggling with the bare minimum

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CthuluCatSnacks t1_jbg64z2 wrote

Replying to SeeInShadow (#2,187,254)

I love the 502 but the first one I had ended up getting an issue where it would double click somewhat randomly after about 3 years. I liked it enough that I bought a new wireless 502 to replace it but wouldn't call it buy it for life.

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julianriv t1_jbg6jpu wrote

Razer Death Adder is exactly what you are looking for and it is well under your budget.

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XxLoxBagelxX t1_jbg6mf3 wrote

I’ve been using a Razer Naga 2014 as my daily driver. Hours of heavy duty gaming 7 days/wk, cord has been abused and holds up well.

Most office mice are not built to stand up to abuse the way high quality gaming mice are.

The Razer Naga Trinity might suit you, or another one of their options. I believe all of them have wired and wireless variants.

Remember that technology is rarely BIFL, especially if you don’t take proper care of it. But my Razer Naga is still going STRONG after 9 years of ABUSE.

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Historical_Air_8997 t1_jbg7crh wrote

I have the Logitech G403. Bought in 2016, if Im a huge gamer geek and use it constantly. I also wfh now and use it.

If I had to put hours used on it I’d assume between 9000-10000 so far. Literally not a single scratch on it and not worn down where I hold it. Lights still work and cord isn’t frayed.

I also have two cats that sometimes play with it. Not rough cuz I move them, but enough that I’m surprised the cord is good. I’ve moved 4 times since owning it too (college dorms and now to a house).

It’s a beast

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svengalus t1_jbg92yz wrote

You might want to look into what is causing the wire to fray.

I'm currently using a wired mouse from the late 90s.

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nodock02 t1_jbg96f3 wrote

I bought 12 wired ones from Amazon for my company for $25 total. You’ll be set forever

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MegaDoft t1_jbg9ao6 wrote

Best way to keep something from fraying is not having anything to fray. Wireless receiver mouse like that one guy said

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cronx42 t1_jbg9qrl wrote

Redragon makes extremely solid peripherals. I have a wired keyboard and mouse from them and love them both. They have braided cables. Really solid stuff for the money. Really hard to beat.

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czar1249 t1_jbga2w2 wrote

Get a cable bungee for your favorite wired mouse. Put felt or something on sharp edges where your wire hangs. Thank me later

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Howard_CS t1_jbgacqz wrote

I think getting a mouse that best suits your usage and ergonomics is the place to start. As others mentioned, wireless mice should probably still be considered if it has a usb dongle, and especially if it allows usage while plugged in via the charging cable (making that part replaceable). I use Logitech G502 light speed, the MX Master 3 and a Razer Naga Pro. I can say all are reasonably well built and unlikely to wear excessively. MX Master is probably my recommendation knowing you aren’t looking to play video games.

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Chakramer t1_jbgcs7e wrote

I feel like the solution here is to go wireless

Most wireless mice have a detachable cable and work wired. So even once the internal battery dies, you can just use it wired forever

But bewarned if this mouse is used for gaming, no mouse is buy it for life. They have moving parts that wear down, even stuff you don't think about like the mouse feet wear down. I'd suggest jyst buying cheaper mice with the expectation they last 5 to 10 years.

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Liquidretro t1_jbgf4j3 wrote

The fraying has to be the surface or pathway the cable is taking. In all my years of IT can't say I have ever seen a mouse fail due to a frayed cable without a pet chewing on it.

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zeptillian t1_jbgfkbr wrote

Logitech G MX518. It will not necessarily last a lifetime but I would expect at least 10 years or more of service.

Buying a new one every decade would probably be better than using a grungy old mouse for several decades just because you paid so much for it.

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Hfftygdertg2 t1_jbgg4oh wrote

Replying to insanok (#2,187,916)

How far is the receiver from the mouse? I plug the receiver into my monitor using the included short 3-inch USB cable. Having it behind the monitor or plugged into the desktop seems to reduce the signal strength too much. Your problem sounds like a wireless signal strength or interference issue. Maybe a USB issue, but that's much less likely. Almost zero chance it's a computing power issue. The computer doesn't even need to know the difference between a wired and wireless mouse (unless you install the manufacturer's software). That's why a wireless mouse still works in BIOS.

My computer does also have USB issues. If I plug a USB 3.0 device into one of the front panel ports, USB 2.0 devices on the other front panel ports become unusable. Something to do with the internal cable to the front panel being improperly shielded. As a workaround, I just plug USB 3.0 devices directly into one of the ports on the back.

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adventure_in_gnarnia t1_jbgglut wrote

A mouse doesn’t seem like a BIFL item… and you can find one at goodwill for $4

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Kotaqu t1_jbggsv5 wrote

I don't think there's a mouse that you can buy for a life. Switches wear out over time, and if you don't want to replace them, you'll have to get a new mouse.

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Trek186 t1_jbgiaez wrote

The Corsair Harpoon gaming mouse. I’ve been rocking one on my desktop for about two years now, and I like it so much I asked for one to keep with my personal laptop as a Xmas gift in 2021.

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insanok t1_jbgiez8 wrote

Replying to Hfftygdertg2 (#2,188,417)

I already mentioned I think it's a largly an incompatibility between the motherboards inbuilt usb hub and the receiver itself; its possible the one dongle is malfunctioning - dmesg hasnt shown any faults. It really hasn't bothered me too much to spend the time debugging.

Logitech unifying receiver. There's another box connected just the same, right next to it with zero issue.

As a work around, I just use a second mouse and don't flip it over to change channels every time I swap pc.

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hdk759 t1_jbgjgyv wrote

Replying to barbarapalvinswhore (#2,187,306)

I can’t speak for OP, but my top reasons for using wired peripherals:

  1. I care about the environment. I try to minimize waste and not create unnecessary environmental damage for convenience. Lithium mining is a filthy, toxic business. Using lithium batteries for cars can be a net positive, but for things like headphones and computer peripherals it’s frivolous and wasteful.
  2. I grew up using electronics with cords, and I’m used to it. Charging and swapping batteries is a bigger hassle for me.
  3. Wired is usually cheaper.
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insanok t1_jbgjhl6 wrote

Replying to Zane42v2 (#2,188,456)

They also said they don't have Bluetooth (I know dongle) and some people are funny about wired mice, gamers, polling rates etc.

There are mice that can be used wired (with a wired usb connection, not just charging) or wireless and from reviews, seems the mx master used to be. But not anymore.

G604 and others seem to still do both modes.

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jbot14 t1_jbgjm9f wrote

I've had a cyborg rat for like 12 years. Not sure if they are even still made... Never had a hiccup with it.

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m2hound t1_jbgx4ps wrote

I am still rocking a braided Razer Naga from 2013. I second the Logitech MX Series or G series. The better question is what are you doing to the mouse to get the cable to fray?

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Flossthief t1_jbh19q6 wrote

Replying to julianriv (#2,188,038)

I liked the 2013 deathadder but now there's really only the chroma varieties available

My 2013 lasted 8 years with thousands of hours of use

The chroma lasted about a year before the switch for lmb died so I had to solder a new one in place

Then the scroll wheel failed so I replaced the whole mouse with a spare steel series mouse

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brainwired1 t1_jbh1is9 wrote

Kensington Expert Mouse. Trackball superiority, baby. Plus scroll wheel, 4 buttons, chording inputs, macros, program-selectable specifications, the works. Also, wireless. Or, if you get the wired one, the cable won't fray because it never moves.

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ukanuk t1_jbh4pm6 wrote

Replying to TheJawsofIce (#2,187,657)

You can add Bluetooth with a USB dongle. But I don't really recommend that, Bluetooth can get interrupted by all kinds of stuff. The Logitech Lightspeed and Logitech Unifying wireless stuff is awesome though, I've never had any connection issues at all. And it's amazing for transportation, no cable to get all tangled up, batteries last for a year of daily heavy use.

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SkyVINS t1_jbh4yjr wrote

.. i dont think a mouse is something that is well suited to BIFL. Like, a toothbrush. Keep in mind you will need to replace the feet fairly regularly, at least every couple years, more if you actually use it *for sport*.

I've been playing hours daily of FPS for, idk, 15 years now, have never ever EVER in my life even seen a frayed mouse cord. Including every mouse anyone else owned, or at work, or casually in any PC situation. I have to think that there's something about your setup that is making it fray more than normal. My current mouse is, idk, 4 years old? 5? and has zero fraying.

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UtahUKBen t1_jbh7lcp wrote

Heck, I'm just getting to the point where I need to replace my idontknowhowmanyyearsold and very nicely named Logitech M-BJ69 (snigger), so will follow this thread.

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firecolin123 t1_jbhaaw1 wrote

Razer Viper Mini is a great option, and it doesn't cost very much at all. It can be bought on Amazon for $45 and they are pretty much bulletproof. It includes a braided cable, and features a great 8500 dpi sensor.

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LeeisureTime t1_jbhcjhp wrote

If your wire is fraying, you need to address that first. Is it dragging on things? Are you bending it at extreme angles?

The simple solution might be cable management, via some sort of mouse bungie?

Or get a wireless mouse with a wired option for charging/use.

No wire would solve your fraying wire problem, but you gotta do what’s best for you

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CopperGenie t1_jbhjtwr wrote

Razer Deathadder Essential has never failed me, got it a few years ago very cheap on Amazon.

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Beautiful-Page3135 t1_jbhptzv wrote

I have a wired G502 Logitech that I've had since 2015, still kicking. It's a gaming mouse so it comes with extra buttons, but I use it for work so I programmed the extra buttons to be copy/paste, forward/back (browser), and an emoji button. Plus as a Logitech it has that stupid gimmicky infinity scroll thing I've come to love oh so incredibly much; hit that button and run the wheel and it goes for miles. It's so cathartic to infinity scroll. It feels really good, I can't describe it. Liked it so much I nabbed 2 wireless versions in a prime day sale for $70 a piece last year.

I think the wired version is like 50 bucks these days.

The cord is wrapped in braided nylon so it doesn't fray easily. Highly recommend.

After almost a decade the left mouse button is double clicking on occasion just from wear and tear, but not a point that makes it unusable (other than in excel). My new wireless ones don't have the same issue yet and will probably see use into the 2040s.

Just saying.

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karma_the_sequel t1_jbi0r04 wrote

I’ve been a fan of the wired Microsoft Intellimouse for decades.

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Strategian t1_jbi1755 wrote

Which ones have you tried? I have a Logitech G502 Hero, which has beefy strain relief and a braided cable sheathe. I've used this thing hard, an embarrassing number of hours a day, since I use it for work and leisure. Like, 12+ hours most days for the past 3 years, and it looks brand new.

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AbnormalAviator t1_jbi404h wrote

I'm extremely impressed with my Razer Synapse. Cord seems super durable. Have had it for 5 years with zero issues so far.

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stanspaceman t1_jbi72jy wrote

I've had the basic razer wired mouse for 14 years no visible wear and daily use 8+ hrs.

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CMDRissue t1_jbiqe2x wrote

Logitech G502 Hero. Always on sale and one of the most popular mice in the world.

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2high4much t1_jbixnz3 wrote

Replying to DaCrazyJamez (#2,188,447)

New Logitech has better build quality than new razer (mice)

I have the new deathadder and it creeks if I squeeze it but my superlight doesn't. Both make great mice, I think I currently prefer the v3pro though

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CMYKoi t1_jbiziw9 wrote

Replying to karma_the_sequel (#2,190,940)

Had to scroll way too far. These things were built to last. Get one of these OP, unless you need better ergonomics like a vertical mouse or a Logitech trackman. (The red imo is much better, but requires frequent cleaning if the ball/contact points and will only last a year or two of heavy use before the switches start to double click and stuff...but so will the oddly highly recommended deathadders. Hell, I often got 6mo if even out of those.)

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Xx420PAWGhunter69xX t1_jbj0wwi wrote

Replying to 2high4much (#2,192,136)

They now have this new G software with their keyboards and it is a steaming pile of shit compared to the older software. Same thing with asus ditching AI suite 3 for Armoury crate. Seems like all software from the 2016 ish era was way better. main focus now seems to be syncing rgb light over functionality.

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epradox t1_jbje1kh wrote

I’ve been using my madcatz rat 7 for 12+ years now and it still feels great. I don’t think they offer that version anymore but there’s probably something similar if madcatz is still around.

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2high4much t1_jbjgib9 wrote

Replying to DiMarcoTheGawd (#2,192,810)

Fair enough. I'm using the dav3pro at the moment. When my g502 had one of the feet start peeling, they sent me a new mouse and let me pick any with the same value. Picked the superlight and now I won't use a heavy mouse lol

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tpn86 t1_jbk03ou wrote

Your budget is too large

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Axi0madick t1_jbkk8pq wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,192,213)

Even after years of being in and out of a laptop bag several times a week for years? I think most of the people talking about their long lived mice have theirs parked at their desks at home 99.9% of the time. Travel is rough on cords. I go through at least a few charging cords per cell phone, and a corded mouse isn't going to be much different.

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roxychalk t1_jbkq6wa wrote

I use this one Steel Series Sensei Laser Gaming Mouse. I've been using this mouse for a long time; double braided nylon cable and zero fray.

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XVOS t1_jbkvunj wrote

I use razer deathadders for more than a decade. No computer mouse is BIFL but they last five years or so of heavy use and are around $50

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jrod19z t1_jbn1vs6 wrote

Replying to SeeInShadow (#2,187,254)

This...well actually mine is a g5 but close enough. 14+ yrs old and still perfect. My razor deathadder prior to that lasted 2. I may have aggressive counterstrike games to blame for that tho

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AdhesiveChild t1_jbo6z9u wrote

Are there mice that just have a usb port you can plug your own cables into ? I’ve never been able to find one with that feature

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JulianMarcello t1_jbv2jup wrote

Replying to julianriv (#2,188,038)

Agreed. My Razer mouse has been working fine for many MANY years. Enough to see where my finger has tapped the button deep into the plastic and it will likely last another decade +.

I use the fucker for 50/ hrs week.

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Kingz-Ghostt t1_jdob78h wrote

The Logitech G502. it’s been around for years and is good quality. I have had one (the hero) for 2 years that I use everyday. I use it multiple hours a day and it looks and works like it’s brand new. It’s a “gaming” mouse, and looks like it. But it’s solid and can usually be found for decently cheap, sub ~$40.

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