Submitted by bomgd3 t3_124w265 in Connecticut
SporkyForks2 t1_je15ckv wrote
That isn't how any of this works...
Hospitals = health care. They have nothing to do with revitalizing the city of Hartford.
It isn't their responsibility to run food banks or refurbish play grounds. They do research and provide care for children's health.
The garage will be used by the parents and people utilizing the facility. People need to start voting better to be able to have these things for the community.
RobbieL241 t1_je2569q wrote
Also consider that on-call docs need to be able to find a parking space if they get called in. I work at Hartford Hospital, and we have spaces reserved for specific license plates to ensure that important staff can park.
AvogadrosMoleSauce t1_je163xu wrote
>The garage will be used by the parents and people utilizing the facility. People need to start voting better to be able to have these things for the community.
So... the community needs to vote better in order for people who aren't part of the community to have somewhere to park?
Mmmslash t1_je18hly wrote
No - the community needs to vote better so you don't lose these jobs to a smaller and more accommodating market, so they have nearby access to this resource.
AvogadrosMoleSauce t1_je194qx wrote
How does having the jobs in the city benefit it? If the employees are just driving in, working, going home then they're not doing much to benefit it. In fact, with traffic and air pollution, they may cause the community more harm than good.
Mmmslash t1_je19o8q wrote
Because those people spend the majority of their waking hours contributing to your local economy instead of someone else's. Because those people provide a nearby critical resource to your community. Because having educated health workers in your city is a universal benefit.
What an impossibly shortsighted take.
RobbieL241 t1_je1atln wrote
You can both build a new parking garage and advocate for better public transportation.
If there was a commuter rail line that ran east of the river to Vernon, I'd absolutely take that over commuting.
SporkyForks2 t1_je1cb82 wrote
How about the hospital just pulls out and moves some place else. Problem solved and your taxes will sky rocket. Time for the people living in Hartford to take some responsibility for how their peers are destroying the city. Not taking away what little resources exist to help the tax base.
AvogadrosMoleSauce t1_je1ckas wrote
Hospitals don't contribute to the tax base.
SporkyForks2 t1_je2tk15 wrote
You have no idea about taxes or life do you? Hence why you are probably financially in a hell hole and complaining about a children's hospital.
AvogadrosMoleSauce t1_je2up5r wrote
Doing quite well, thanks for caring. Government buildings and non-profits are exempt from property taxes. About 59% of Hartford's property isn't taxed due to this, including the hospitals. In theory, PILOT would compensate for this, but in addition to undervaluing property it has never been fully funded.
bomgd3 OP t1_je172to wrote
There is a ton of parking in the area already. Hartford has been decimated by parking. The money could really be better used. Part of the hospital's role should be to improve the health of its community. In fact I'd argue it is their primary responsibility. It's why hospitals get extensive tax breaks and other preferential treatment. I think most people in healthcare could tell you, the systemic and environmental factors are enormous factors in the health of the community. Money wisely spent on public health is probably vastly more effective than money spent on... A parking garage
Kolzig33189 t1_je1bxb7 wrote
As someone who worked in HH until 2017, there isn’t enough parking right near the hospital to support the massive amount of staff such a huge complex requires, as well as patients/visitors. Several times when I would go into the hospital as a civilian to visit someone, I would have to park maybe 9-10 blocks away. That’s fine for me, but many people can’t do that (patients/people coming in for treatment) or don’t feel safe walking 10 blocks through Hartford at night. And those times weren’t even peak hours.
The whole premise of your argument is wrong. I can’t tell you how many patients I had complained that they either had to sit and wait for someone to leave and hope they got to the spot first or had to walk a half mile or more.
bomgd3 OP t1_je1eee0 wrote
$47M is over $20,000 per employee
Hypothetically: What if they gave each employee $5000 but then charged each employee $200/month to park on site, or the employees could park for free or nominal cost at a more distant lot served by a shuttle?
The congestion going to and from the hospital is already insane. Hartford needs more modern, thoughtful transportation solutions.
Kolzig33189 t1_je1gpe0 wrote
So once again, why is that HH responsibility to fix what the legislature of Hartford can’t do? You already failed to answer that when I asked before on why it’s HH’s responsibility to grow fresh fruit for the towns populace among other things you mentioned.
Your laughable solution is only geared towards the employees. Wouldn’t do anything about visitors and patients who also need a massive amount of parking spots.
Not to mention how does charging employees to park out of an extra stipend solve the perceived problem you have of there’s too much parking? Nearly all employees will still continue to commute because lack of buses (especially for 2nd and 3rd shifters) or the convenience of having a car where you can do other errands after work, not waiting for a late bus, etc. You clearly haven’t thought any of this through other than being very passionate about it.
Edit: just read on another post you claim to have went to UConn med…come on man, based on your illogical responses you’ve given to everyone and lack of even the slightest common sense, that’s really hard to believe. Also that a doc would have no problem with making kids on crutches, coming in for various treatments, or temporarily disabled people having to walk half a mile to get to the hospital. Bringing a child to the hospital or even routine treatment is stressful enough; the last thing those parents need is to fight for a parking spot or walk a far distance on the street. That’s a big F You to patients.
SporkyForks2 t1_je1cjxo wrote
Maybe it is time for those in the community of Hartford to step up and take responsibility for their fellow community members who have destroyed the city.
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