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Single_T t1_jcwyl04 wrote

Out living life and being kids. As sad as it is accidents happen whether you're 17 or 71, and I don't think citing one example of things going wrong justifies the idea that kids shouldn't be allowed to be kids

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Backpacker7385 t1_jcx0mm3 wrote

You think an 8 year old and a 9 year old (who was riding in the trunk) being driven around by a sixteen year old, after midnight with no adults, is “being kids”?

Kids need some supervision, or this happens.

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Single_T t1_jcx2nif wrote

Yes I do. As someone who was once a kid, I can tell you with confidence that kids are stupid, and no amount of adult supervision will stop that. What they were doing was already illegal so changing the laws wont stop them, and if we keep trying harder to shut kids in they will just keeping new tide pod challenges to let their stupidity out.

Again it's very sad that it happened, but car crashes happen all the time whether you're 16 or 64. The only way to make them happen is to give kids more places worth going out to just be kids that give them less opportunities to get into situations like this.

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gatogrande t1_jcy86u9 wrote

Shit parenting turns into unbelievable tragedy. So fuking sad

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Single_T t1_jcz5tke wrote

That may be true but I think its an entirely unreasonable assumption to think that a 16 year old will always have adult supervision. For example, I could reasonably trust a 16 year old to babysit younger kids, and if they had a car I could also reasonably trust them to drive themselves to and from babysitting those kids depending on the situation. I dont think this is the place to continue having this discussion because it is a sensitive and tragic situation. My thoughts and prayers are with the family, and I am going to leave it at that

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purpleflagbook t1_jcz8seu wrote

What mall is open at 12:30am? Or close to that time? Why were 8/9/12 year olds out at that time with other teenagers and no adults present? not to mention the driver with no license.

None of the children were registered in school in derby either….sounds like their parents didn’t care what they did. How sad for those children who needed to be home in their beds. Rest In paradise. A sad day.

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Down_vote_david t1_jczfnk6 wrote

I'm referring to the parents. They should both be in jail for allowing one of their teenage kids to KNOWINGLY drive the other kids ages 8-17 when the kid didn't have a license. The father even admitted to knowing the 16 year old kid would drive around unlicensed and would drive the other kids as well...

https://nypost.com/2023/03/20/heartbreaking-photos-show-5-children-killed-in-ny-crash/

Also, I'm not buying the story the mom said about the kids being at a mall? What mall is open at 10:00pm or later? They crashed at 12:20...what is an 8 year old and 9 year old (where there wasn't even room in the car for the 9 year old, they were in the trunk) doing awake at 12:00?

Also, how did the parents not know their kids were being driven around by a 16 year old with no license?

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AA206 t1_jdgicte wrote

Family member of the children has been trying to get the real story out and is being silenced by other family members. The parents were literally trafficking these children

Post by family member:

This has been the longest week. My cousins were involved ina horrific accident. Their parents pulled them out of school a few years ago, and been sending then to New Jersey and New York as unaccompanied minors to panhandle for money. This weekend. Their parents sent them to New Jersey from Connecticut to panhandle by themselves. They gave the unlicensed 16 year old the keys to a car rental, and put him and the 17 year old in charge of the smaller children and told them they can't come back until they met a certain quota. They asked to come home early but they didn't make enough money to satisfy the adults. It was around 12:20am when the car hit a boulder then a tree on the highway killing 5 out of the 6 children in the car. My family is trying to bury the story out of shame and embarrassment. They may get away with trafficking their children. The they raised over $60,000 on go fund me. They started the go fund me a few hours after they found out the kids died. They don't need the go fund me because their bodies burned in the car crash after the car caught on fire. They'll most likely hold a ceremony without a funeral home because a full funeral isn't required because the state already cremated their remains for free. Other family members are trying to keep me silent because they want a cut of the money. There's 5 other children in the home. Cps has yet to step in and do something about it.

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