yah, I totally agree, by shitty I specifically mean beer that's poorly brewed and full of off flavors (not crazy adjuncts) and faults yet still does well because they happen to follow popular style trends, are brewed by some golden child places or brewers or has lots of good socials and marketing etc; versus beers I just don't enjoy or like but are brewed well without faults...anyway thanks for saying it, I mostly I don't bother mentioning it to avoid the wrath of the ipa bros and fony beer experts - I homebrewed for years and passed the BJCP test so I know some...; and dare I say I'm burnt out on neipas...?