Well I've heard songs from both of those bands, and seen what both of those bands look like. As much as I don't listen to them regularly, I know they're not just whiny nu metal shitheads making awful music for suburban middle schoolers. I don't personally like those bands, but it's easy to see how they're both a lot better than Linkin Park.

Now we can get back to how you came in hot defending Linkin Park and comparing them to much better bands despite saying you're not a big fan. What's all that about?