Submitted by redingerforcongress t3_z1yh3i in Futurology
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Lexa_Stanton t1_ixdk2gz wrote
I am sorry Sir. I understand your order is 3h late. But all our vehicules are out of charge.
MoistPossum t1_ixdk2wg wrote
I've seen the commercials. How many people are going to order pizza from a different place just because they are jumping on the EV bandwagon?
FuturologyBot t1_ixdlex4 wrote
The following submission statement was provided by /u/redingerforcongress:
> "We're excited that Domino's has chosen the Chevrolet Bolt EV to build their electric pizza delivery fleet in the U.S.," said Ed Peper, vice president of GM Fleet. "Both companies are committed to bettering our environment. GM plans to eliminate tailpipe emissions from new U.S. light duty vehicles by 2035. With an affordable price, fun driving characteristics, and a 259-mile range, the Chevy Bolt EV is the future of Domino's electrified deliveries."
> Michigan already has 12 of these electric vehicles, and expects 93 more to show up by the end of 2023, according to Domino’s interactive map.
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/z1yh3i/dominos_pizza_will_soon_have_800_electric/ixdgmqj/
OptimalConcept143 t1_ixdmwgu wrote
This is the same company that irresponsibly tells people to recycle their dirty pizza boxes.
redingerforcongress OP t1_ixdn4yo wrote
And the fast charger is unavailable...
SaltyBalty98 t1_ixdnzx9 wrote
I really hope things don't go the way of the McDonald's ice cream machines.
BlackDawn07 t1_ixdohxc wrote
They will make money by not having to pay their drivers mileage. Not from gaining customers.
redingerforcongress OP t1_ixdoj70 wrote
Pizza delivery driver gonna sneak up on you with their nearly silent cars
RampantRooster t1_ixdopqb wrote
Tbh as someone who used to deliver pizzas, I'd take anything, EV or not, to avoid putting hundreds of miles a week on my own car.
YoImBenwah t1_ixdpbj2 wrote
I used to live in Michigan and delivered pizzas, full-time. I kept all my receipts for 2016 in regards to my car (fuel, maintenance, parts like new blades et cetera) and filed a long-form which got me less than $100 short of the standard deduction, so I wasted all that time for absolutely no financial incentive.
ThirdRuleOfFightClub t1_ixdpcqs wrote
This is a publicity stunt. Never seen a Domino's delivery vehicle in my area. They are usually the persons personal car they drive. It's just not financially viable for these franchise owners to upkeep a car while paying for the franchise tax. It has always been on the Delivery driver to provide the car from which they deliver pizzas from.
thebookofmer t1_ixdpqi7 wrote
Why would they pay mileage if they own the vehicle lol
BlackDawn07 t1_ixdpuys wrote
That's my point. They won't have to anymore.
thebookofmer t1_ixdpxf7 wrote
You can remove the fuse that makes the noise to let people know you are there. But it's illegal for obvious reasons
mypeez t1_ixdq4ol wrote
Domino's used to own their cars back in the beginning at Ann Arbor / Ypsi.
Tiggles12-20 t1_ixdq77u wrote
Good! The faster we fall into this idiotic solution the faster we'll find it out it don't work.
vdhPaXL0Km t1_ixdqkdb wrote
Are they expecting people to switch because of it? Or feel better ordering because of it?
thebookofmer t1_ixdqpyg wrote
Do you think it's kind of comical that people think evs cost more money and that dominoes would buy these to save money?
PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixdquy5 wrote
$1/delivery * 100 deliveries/day/vehicle * 7 * 50 (2 weeks off for various repairs or slow days over the year, = $35,000.
New Chevy bolt price: $25k? 27?
However that includes no upkeep... tires alone are like like 1-3K/year...
Maybe it's a good move?
BlackDawn07 t1_ixdr5ax wrote
Mileage is 2$ a delivery.
And I'm sure dominos got a significant discount on the cars.
PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixdr6td wrote
maybe they're not in your area... are you saying this is fake or what? What does your anecdotal experience of never having see them have to do with anything?
viability aside.
PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixdrcpm wrote
are you sure? delivery fee is $2 that doesn't necessarily all go to the driver, I've never worked at doms, though so I'm not sure how they do it.
BlackDawn07 t1_ixdrlvz wrote
Unsure of where you live but delivery for me at dominos is 5.99.
I worked at a papa John's for 7 years and mileage then was $1.50 and that was 7 years ago.
PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixdrx4y wrote
maybe I've been out of the game too long lol. $5.99 delivery fee!?!? we're not talking door dash here, that's straight from the horses ass? domino's just straight up charges $6 per delivery?
BlackDawn07 t1_ixds57r wrote
Yep. Costs me 10 bucks to get it delivered once I add a tip.
PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixdso5w wrote
that is just insane... almost glad nobody delivers where I live so I can't be tempted.
Anon324Teller t1_ixdsu09 wrote
Yeah, I was confused when I saw their packaging say that. You don’t recycle greasy cardboard, you put it in the trash
Anon324Teller t1_ixdt0bf wrote
You can solve this by leaving them to charge every night. I hope they’re smart enough to install charging stations at these locations
austinmiles t1_ixdth9w wrote
It can be composted if you have municipal composting. So that’s nice at least
NorCalAthlete t1_ixdtvqr wrote
I mean, that’s kind of the point of the standard deduction though isn’t it? To save time for the people with the least to spare?
Let the people who can hire someone else to do their taxes and actually spend far more than the standard deduction worry about filing all that stuff.
GoneIn61Seconds t1_ixdu7ty wrote
Isn’t grease bad for compost piles? We avoid putting it in ours
Anon324Teller t1_ixdu89u wrote
I had no idea about that but thank you for telling me
thehourglasses t1_ixdue1a wrote
And will continue using the same low quality meat and dairy products. The most climate-positive thing Domino’s can do is cease operating.
austinmiles t1_ixdus9e wrote
Not in that amount. Municipal compost can also handle things like meat and bones. They mulch everything first which is why the compostable plastic works for them.
For smaller home compost I would probably not put any real trash in other than newspaper. Mostly because it dilutes the nutrients since its functionally sterile. We used to do lots of coffee, some citrus, small meat scraps, and newspapers layers in our vermiculture bin and it was CRAZY how fast they would run through everything. It was the richest compost I have ever seen.
GoneIn61Seconds t1_ixdvove wrote
good to know, thanks!
GoneIn61Seconds t1_ixdwm93 wrote
I'm old enough to remember when Domino's had it's original delivery fleet (mid 1980's?). Seems like a great use-case for small EVs, and franchises should have enough power available to charge cars since they already use high voltage for ovens.
The biggest hurdle might be delivery drivers who can't estimate distances and range properly, or who drive aggressively and drain batteries.
GimmieJohnson t1_ixdx4yk wrote
Wake me up when they bring back their early 90s menu and recipe back. Bring back the noid.
Mr-Mysterybox t1_ixdx7qe wrote
But their pizzas will still taste like crap so there's a trade off for trying to be environmentally conscious.
Zoefschildpad t1_ixdy567 wrote
I think they have more than that in The Netherlands. They're all e-bikes, but still, technically electric vehicles.
beachtrader t1_ixdzo88 wrote
That’s a start. But where I live dominos has no drivers or just one. So any order delivery by EV would be cool but I’ll still have to wait 1 1/2-2 hours for a pizza. They better make the jump to driverless for a real impact.
[deleted] t1_ixe1wyz wrote
There's a noise it must make? I haven't heard of this.
Plastic-Bluebird-625 t1_ixe2g5u wrote
Yes, it's for the safety of people that have vision problems and just pedestrians in general. You can hear a combustion engine no problem but an electric one is nearly silent. Some car companies add a speaker in the front to make engine noises.
Jeebusify119 t1_ixe3man wrote
I used to work at dominos a few years back. Our fee was $3 and I got less than half of that. It's location dependent and it changes depending on a fuel pricing index.
thebookofmer t1_ixe3o13 wrote
Actually by law they have to have them. At least in America.
BlackDawn07 t1_ixe45yu wrote
Seems about right. I live in SoCal so 5.99$ is pretty unsurprising.
wifespissed t1_ixe499s wrote
"Damn John, this is gonna be expensive." "Don't worry Jim, I got it taken care of. We're just going to increase the delivery charge to $9.95."
Jeebusify119 t1_ixe4hac wrote
Oh they're charging 6 up here now. I wouldn't be surprised if the driver got 2 of that. I have never worked anywhere than pinched pennies as hard as that org does.
Unasked_for_advice t1_ixe4l4z wrote
Upkeep? You must be dreaming to think they will actually spend money on that.
redingerforcongress OP t1_ixe4psu wrote
The EV they're buying is the cheapest on the market
BlackDawn07 t1_ixe4qlj wrote
It's not just dominos. Papa John's was just as bad when I worked for them. I was assistant manager and only made 50 cents more than the regular insiders...lol
redingerforcongress OP t1_ixe4wth wrote
My Bolt only has chimes when I leave my driver door open; but those are internal chimes.
No reverse sounds either; backup camera activates with overhead view.
It does beep at me if I forget my keys in the car though
Jeebusify119 t1_ixe4zla wrote
Lol. Yeah, they offered me a shift lead position for .10 over minimum wage. I wasn't about to hop off the road for more labor and half the pay.
BlackDawn07 t1_ixe552p wrote
100%. I only did it for a couple years before switching to driver. Was honestly a super chill gig. Having money in my pocket after every shift was great too.
Jeebusify119 t1_ixe5js0 wrote
Driving is where it was at. Every now and then I miss that job. But yeah fuck the big corporate guys, they treat everybody like a replaceable cog.
bepisliving t1_ixe5p50 wrote
That’s like 16 per state if evenly distributed, which wouldn’t make much sense to me since some states surely do more volume than others. Still cool though.
BourdainTiffin t1_ixe6bye wrote
What won’t work?
Tiggles12-20 t1_ixe6qhj wrote
The whole let's save the planet by going electric shinannigans.
AREssshhhk t1_ixe71u7 wrote
Who buys Domino’s pizza? I’m really curious. Every time I tried their pizza it’s the worst pizza I’ve ever had, like cardboard with ketchup on it. I would rather drive a little further for little Caesar’s and get slightly better pizza for like $6. I can’t understand how dominoes stays open. Will someone please explain this to me?
BlackDawn07 t1_ixe76v3 wrote
I feel you on missing it. I make much more money overall where I am now...but there was always something freeing about not having really any responsibility and being able to spend most of your shift in your car blasting the radio.
Val_kyria t1_ixe7km1 wrote
Depends how the franchise does reimbursement the per mile rate for us makes it worth using my own car.
Unfortunately the last time Domino's did a car things they had no plans for maintenance or accountability so the cars just got run into the ground and left to rot after a year
Vitztlampaehecatl t1_ixe7ml0 wrote
I'm more interested in their electric bike fleet. They could do it nationwide if cities actually built bike infrastructure.
[deleted] t1_ixe7n4x wrote
Interesting. Don't believe we have this in Canada.
Val_kyria t1_ixe7sg6 wrote
Priuses and teslas are obnoxious af
redingerforcongress OP t1_ixe7vg9 wrote
Alright, let's do better math;
> According to a pizza delivery driver from Ohio, drivers can average “around 80–120 miles on your car per night
Let's estimate 100 miles per night;
Milage is $0.625 / mile; personal vehicle ownership assumes only 260 working days whereas fleet car is operating 360
Cost of milage for personal car [260 days]: $16,250
Cost of milage for personal car [360 days]: $22,500
Cost of milage for personal car [1800 days]: ~$112,500 [we assume this number is not accurate given that change in milage]
Each night, Dominos fleet major expense is electricity, which at residential rates of $0.10 / kwh, that'd be ~$2.85 / night / car [3.5 kw / mile, 100 miles / night]
Battery durability should allow for more than 80% after 5 years, 180,000 miles easily
So, looking at 5 year total;
Total cost of Bolt [1800 days]:
Electricity: $5130
Tires: $2400
Car: $27,000
Total: $34,530
I feel like I should just make this an algebraic expression so I can wolframalpha yall a chart when it makes sense for Dominos to buy their own fleet vs paying milage
BourdainTiffin t1_ixe7ye5 wrote
We’re clearly going to transition away from internal combustion engines towards electric vehicles, and electric vehicles are clearly better for the planet. What’s the shenanigans part?
redingerforcongress OP t1_ixe85dg wrote
Other than new tires, there isn't upkeep
Coolant flush after 250k miles [after the battery is dead?]
ItsGermany t1_ixe8649 wrote
That is like me and my wife having .2 electric vehicles for us and my parents and grand parents and cousins and nephews and, well the whole family.
Get your shit together dominos! You feed us plastic cheese and drive a few electric cars.
We actually don't use gas or oil any more in our family, but it is expensive.
ral1232 t1_ixe8qei wrote
He is a troll. My friends and I love our engines but everyone with half a brain knows that electric is the future. Might create some pollution to create said battery but the fact is, you can fucking RECHARGE the battery. Not continue to burn gallon after gallon of fuel trying to do what a battery can do. These climate denying idiots are a disease greater than humans themselves. Think of an antibiotic resistant bacteria.. that’s what they are. Ironic lol
EndersInfinite t1_ixe8xmo wrote
I would, at least once out of supporting the cause, before probably reverting back to ordering actual new york pizza in new york city cause that's where i live.
Tiggles12-20 t1_ixe90wv wrote
Uh no it's not considering the gigantic holes we put into the earth just to get the Lithium to create batteries.
How do we dispose of batteries? What do we do with the solar panels after their 25 year life span? Cali is experiencing black outs right now and it's our biggest electrical grid, imagine the problems when all 5billion plus people plug in their cars.
NightLexic t1_ixea92p wrote
Domino's always had a fleet of cars for their delivery drivers.
just-here-2-par-t t1_ixeanu4 wrote
Might make them feel better if they don’t think about amount of resources it takes to really deliver them their sub par cardboard topped with tomato sugar paste and what qualifies legally as mozzarella cheese in a box.
GloopCompost t1_ixebtu4 wrote
Could someone buy those electric cars I bet they'd be easier to maintain than normal car.
TheyCallMeMrMaybe t1_ixed3bu wrote
Not only that, but cost of routine maintenance is generally cheaper for EVs so it's easier for the franchises to maintain.
BourdainTiffin t1_ixedp0j wrote
EVs are much greener than internal combustion engines when considering the entire lifecycle of either including resource extraction and disposal.
The grid will need to be upgraded, but nothing we can’t handle.
Gasoline is a finite resource. At current consumption levels we will run out within a few decades.
gogomom t1_ixehc83 wrote
Hahahahaha... OK.
My husband worked for them delivering pizzas in 1998 - no dominoes cars anywhere to be seen. One of the plazas I do work for as a maintenance company has a Dominoes - all the delivery drivers are driving personal cars - we talked about it because of their parking situation.....
Maybe in some big city in the USA they have cars, but here, in Ontario Canada (there are 13 Dominoes stores within the city limits) - I've never seen a Dominoes branded car - ever.
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TheLastOne0001 t1_ixejlk3 wrote
One car per store so everyone is still delivering in their 96 Honda Civic except the one guy who's car has got a flat that month
Kaiyotie t1_ixek80u wrote
Well. Your dominos is shit and quality is based on area.
SpaghetiJesus t1_ixektor wrote
Am a MIT at Dominos that is getting one of these Bolts, was supposed to get them a month and a half ago actually, and while they’re talking about the environment in their press release, it’s almost entirely to long term save on mileage paid out to the drivers and then very slightly opening up better solutions to when you’re short handed on drivers and have an excess of insiders. Ot won’t save Dominos money in the short term but long term it’s going to add up to a ridiculous amount of year after year savings.
dreamfeed t1_ixem23m wrote
There are over 6500 locations in the US. They’re only buying enough for one out of every 10 stores.
rick_C132 t1_ixeppqq wrote
CA is definitely not having blackouts right now
NightLexic t1_ixeqe44 wrote
Well maybe it's different from region to region but from what I have seen in Calgary there is a fleet of dominoes cars
ktpr t1_ixeuv54 wrote
I would. At least initially and doing a taste test.
3_14159td t1_ixevop7 wrote
Sounds more expensive than exploiting college students
Calexander3103 t1_ixevpfh wrote
Tires are 1-3k/yr??? I know I’m not a delivery driver, but that’s swapping my tires 2-6 times per year, and getting reasonable tires. Seems kind of excessive to me, but maybe I’m not swapping my tires often enough.
Carlosaero22 t1_ixeyen6 wrote
Ain’t nobody going to buy your $20 pies in a recession. Don’t bother
PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixez3hc wrote
It's a car driven by various young people that is owned by their employer that they probably have little respect for. There will be upkeep.
PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixez72n wrote
If not, the cars are no longer useful and the entire initiative will have been a complete waste.
hotfarts89 t1_ixezdll wrote
Next come up with a recipe that doesn’t cause me to have diarrhea in 8hrs or less.
PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixezkxa wrote
Delivery drivers put a lot of miles through tires quickly. I did change tires twice a year when I was doing delivery, that's what I based that off of @ $150/tire
Neverlost99 t1_ixf0ut0 wrote
Should invest in how to make pizza. The product sucks
ThatOtherOneReddit t1_ixf1ey8 wrote
Nice thing about Electric cars is that they need A LOT less maintenance. Big issue I see is that no way they go a whole day without a charge. With a highspeed charger if they can recharge it 20-30 miles in 5 minutes it will probably be fine.
ThatOtherOneReddit t1_ixf1wd4 wrote
Think the bigger issue people that don't have this overhead get the same amount of a deduction. So a pizza delivery driver is spending more but getting less than a business would since their scale is just a single individual.
Imapirateship t1_ixf1xz4 wrote
Weird to me dominos is investing in this instead of letting uber Doordash grubhub etc take care of this aspect of business
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MatterShim t1_ixf42fy wrote
Can they also make their pizza not taste like shit? I'd like to give them a reason to use those cars.
Xxdosbeekeeperxx t1_ixf544f wrote
Can they also fix their gross food plz? I'm not a food snob, who doesn't indulge in some fast food once in awhile. The kids loves domino's. The last time they ordered it the pizza tasted like a fucking war crime.
Pushmonk t1_ixf5aex wrote
It's doubtful they would be hitting the max range during peak business hours. And then charge in the the down time before and after. Seems like it could be a good idea.
RampantRooster t1_ixf7s2w wrote
The store I worked for had a stupid large area, and even on the worst days, I don't think I ever put more than 80 miles on during an 8 hour shift. Get some cars with ~200 mile range, plug em in overnight and when a driver clocks out, and you're good.
system0101 t1_ixf9ylz wrote
They're probably double-parked
AssistElectronic7007 t1_ixfe21b wrote
Definitely no dominoes fleets where I'm at in Montana USA.
darkshark9 t1_ixfe2yu wrote
I used to work at Dominos. I am 100% certain these aren't actually going to be used by delivery drivers outside of mega-crunchtimes like the day of the Superbowl. These cars will be for the franchise owners and will probably sit in the store driveway as a form of advertising.
They'll keep making drivers use their own cars.
Wichitaleafs t1_ixfe80a wrote
Soon Domino's will have 800 electric vehicles on chargers while gas vehicles are making deliveries.
Suikeina t1_ixfewsi wrote
From someone who currently works at a Domino's... it's very possible that any company cars in your area are unbranded.
Until recently, my store's company car was a Chevy Spark. Completely unbranded, you'd never know it belonged to the company and not someone who worked there. Now we have a new Mazda DXP (I think its a mazda3 or 6) with Domino's branding all over it.
sanjsrik t1_ixfezo3 wrote
You're double parked
RampantRooster t1_ixff4w1 wrote
I feel like they could do a lot better than Chevy Bolts for that. Mach-e's or something. And to be honest I think it really depends on if corporate is freely allocating these cars to stores, or if they're gonna charge the stores/drivers somehow to use them. I know the Papa John's franchise I worked for wouldn't take the cars unless they were free.
mr_bedbugs t1_ixfgdbu wrote
Maybe a fleet in total
Certain-Ad-3840 t1_ixfhchz wrote
Our roads are gonna be like that one scene in Fahrenheit 451 with the cars driving at 200 miles an hour
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LocustUprising t1_ixfj9vs wrote
Dominos is cheap compared their competition though. Except for little Caesar’s maybe
Val_kyria t1_ixfjto9 wrote
City stores you're hustling if you even do 100 mi in a 10hr shift
Rural stores you can do 20-30 round trips
NickDanger3di t1_ixfjz7n wrote
They didn't say Domino's was paying for them. Would not be surprised to learn the delivery drivers have to pay to use the EVs they drive.
downtownpartytime t1_ixfmzq2 wrote
yup, they get to use employee vehicles for almost free
LivingPepper6866 t1_ixfn1yc wrote
Still gonna charge the $6 delivery fee? I already know it’s not a tip for the drivers ty.
FYI my D store is 3 miles away and I always tip $8 🙌
KJ6BWB t1_ixfpa4m wrote
> Depends how the franchise does reimbursement the per mile rate for us makes it worth using my own car.
This. How much are they going to charge drivers for the dubious privilege of not using their own car?
iwoketoanightmare t1_ixfpn8e wrote
What you’re supposed to do is claim mileage from the employer and get the IRS rate as a reimbursement. Then they claim the deduction.
Excellent-Ad-5100 t1_ixftoaz wrote
Nice. Now we need to convince them to deliver other people’s pizza
Blazien t1_ixfv1t1 wrote
Also nice to not get dents on roof of car from putting on and taking off car topper shift after shift .
Pm_Me_Your_Slut_Look t1_ixfwk85 wrote
In many parts of Europe Domino's uses scooters instead of cars for delivery. When they went to electric scooters they added sounds for safety.
The sounds are amazing with various versions of "Domino's" "Pizza"
Rare_Basil_243 t1_ixfwo8w wrote
I can't get the interactive map on the website to see EVs in use near you to work... can anyone else?
qwert45 t1_ixfwybu wrote
Prolly take half their tips, and pocket the delivery fee they used to split with the driver.
imanAholebutimfunny t1_ixfxa09 wrote
The Franchise Wars are starting........
arizona-lad t1_ixfxrsn wrote
They can afford to buy 800 new cars, but can’t afford to pay a living wage to their employees. What is wrong with this picture?
hamisme t1_ixfyjhs wrote
I live in western MA, and I have recently has dominos for the first time since I was in high school (twelve years ago) my 6y.o daughter wanted to try it after seeing an ad on Hulu. 50 dollars later I got a med pie and some cheesey bread. I spit out my first bite and gagged on the second. The sauce is trash. Canned paste. The toppings were worse… but that dough… worst thing I’ve had in a long fucking time. My daughter didn’t even want to eat it. Absolute waste of money. I can’t believe I helped keep this horrible company afloat by buying from them. They need to hang up their hats, be honest with themselves, and close for good. I feel horrible for anyone who thinks this is what a decent pizza tastes like.
ybonepike t1_ixfyyyj wrote
If it's anything like their electric moped, then it won't be quiet, just absurdly noisy www.youtube.com/watch?v=n17B_uFF4cA
teatimewithbatman1 t1_ixg192v wrote
Legally they cannot take half their tips unless they make at least minimum wage....it is likely though delivery pay will be removed, and based on tips only
teatimewithbatman1 t1_ixg1brm wrote
Well besides beautiful nature there's absolutely nothing in Montana
pinkfootthegoose t1_ixg1iw8 wrote
yeah but those executive got them bonuses for that year because of the "huge profits."
pinkfootthegoose t1_ixg1lnh wrote
they would be charged each time they return for more pizza.
fartingwiffvengeance t1_ixg2q8m wrote
The delivery fee they charge us… I bet it doesn’t go to the driver am I right ?
RampantRooster t1_ixg3daz wrote
I can only speak from my own experience, and I worked as a driver from about May 2011 to July 2015 at Papa John's.
At the time, our delivery fee was $2, and I got $1 per delivery flat for mileage. So the answer is "partly". The boxes we used at the time had the whole "the delivery fee isn't paid out to the driver, so please tip" thing, but it wasn't 100% true. I don't know how it's changed since.
I got 100% of the tip, minus any I tipped out to the in store workers.
Dorky_Gaming_Teach t1_ixg4soc wrote
So that's why they started charging a $5 delivery fee.
fartingwiffvengeance t1_ixg66ha wrote
I ordered not long ago. Currently it is a five dollar delivery fee. Then they go on to say please appreciate our drivers (because we don’t) and leave them a tip. I was cynical believing that the mandatory five dollar fee goes to the store and not to the driver who is actually doing the delivering and also risking their ass out there. I normally don’t do any delivery but I had Covid. I didn’t want to go out and infect people for pizza.
Lautheris t1_ixg70h3 wrote
Even better they won’t have to pay them mileage reimbursement anymore if they drive those lol
RampantRooster t1_ixg998x wrote
It's gotten stupid, and I've seen the same amounts for delivery fees.
To be honest, I'd fully believe it's just greed and the store is pocketing most, if not all, of that five bucks. But I don't know for sure, obviously.
For what it's worth, I did also make minimum wage hourly. It wasn't that sort of situation where I got less hourly because tips. 7+ years ago, me making ~$16/hour after tips and before gas and vehicle maintenance was actually pretty decent for a college student where I lived. Those 8-9 hour weekend closing shifts where I'd go home with $130 in my pocket were pretty nice.
MarsAlgea3791 t1_ixga4q9 wrote
On the day the anniversary edition of Snow Crash comes out, this. The universe may be sentient, because there is a damn sense of humor at work here.
slavid180501 t1_ixgbhs0 wrote
But it’s domino’s pizza being delivered by them still, so no thanks.
fartingwiffvengeance t1_ixgcxg0 wrote
oh yea... i used to wipe down cars for tips. I came home with more singles than a stripper.
Kaiju_zero t1_ixge8ac wrote
Oh, if you saw the totals on orders at my local pizza place for pick up and delivery on any given night, you'd think $20 was a bargain. 60-200 orders a night, the average being over $20 is a regular thing where I am at.
Digital-Bionics t1_ixgi8p6 wrote
If you're eating that crap the least one ought to do is to walk to get it
JimC29 t1_ixgmd1f wrote
I drove for them at a store with company cars. That was 30 years ago though.
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PrinceDusk t1_ixgoqpe wrote
I've been driving for a year now and in 8 hours I think ~150 was the most I've done in my area, but it's still a rare day to do 100+
PrinceDusk t1_ixgpt8a wrote
currently driving for Papa John's, yea. Technically you could think of it as "partly" but it's basically just an increase in food price by a different name.
At $3.50 an order, in my delivery area to go to the farthest point is maybe 12 miles round trip, I'm getting paid $0.45/mi, which actually by my math is $5.40 to be fair, however, we normally take 2 or more deliveries per trip, also the VAST majority of our orders is within a mile of us, so going on 2-3 miles round trip for most of our orders that makes only $0.90-$1.20 of that $3.50.
If I make 15 runs in a shift (maybe a slightly high average for me) I make the store about $52.50 minimum, and I get $1-2 per run for mileage, so that means about half the delivery fee, at best, makes it to me and I'm getting 5.50/hr driving and if I average $2 in mileage then I'm still not hitting federal minimum wage without someone tipping. And if you don't tip to stick it to the business then you're just kicking the poor driver that's just trying to make some money without breaking their back or shelling out a ton for college...
moral of the story, if you get something delivered and don't tip then you're just hurting a server, the delivery fee is not a tip and mileage paid can fluctuate. If you don't like delivery fees or tipping, then - with all due respect - use your own car to go get your own food.
(none of any perceived salt was directed at you specifically, fartingwiffvengeance)
erath_droid t1_ixgs4i7 wrote
I mean... it's printed on the box that the delivery fee doesn't go to the driver...
They ain't even hiding it...
erath_droid t1_ixgsqk9 wrote
800 electric vehicles... across their (checks notes) 6000 plus stores.
Yeah, not too hopeful about this, to be honest...
Especially considering the state of their "E-bikes" and the Prius that my local Dominos bought (that all of the drivers refuse to use since it's in such bad condition....)
Considering that most Dominos are franchises and corporate says things like "Use this new E-Bike" or "Buy more electric vehicles" and the franchisees are all like "Whatever..."
Pure greenwashing.
Savagescythe t1_ixgvqj1 wrote
Funny enough 800 is nothing compared to the amount of delivery drivers. They will be used but I’m unsure how often. In my area we have/had a dominos car but from what I saw the district abs regional mangers used it to get around and publicity.
SolidGreenDay t1_ixgwz96 wrote
Bolt EVs are not very fast at charging. According to them it's up to 95 miles in 30 minutes, but I believe they will manage since any idle time the car gets at the store it would be charging assuming they setup chargers near or at their stores.
iamtheeggman9000 t1_ixh19ju wrote
this isn’t news, it is cheap, unsubstantiated advertisement, just like the dominoes fixing potholes campaign. a bunch of backwards logic that makes it look “progressive” but in actuality has little to no actual benefit while a garbage company can appear “woke” and caring about real world problems.
GrandmasterQuagga t1_ixh65us wrote
Now all restaurants are Taco Bell
FoggyBinky t1_ixh8qt5 wrote
Oh how nice, I hope the electric cars will help wash dishes and make the pizza too. And mop the floors, clean the make line and counters, answer the phones, check the dates on product, grant customer refunds, go pick up supplies from other stores because you've ran out, take triple and quadruple order runs because your coworkers called off on a busy day...oh and don't worry we're gonna track all your mileage so we don't pay you a cent more than you deserve and harass your phone when you're not back to the store because some customer took ten minutes to answer their phone as you're beating on their door because they forgot they ordered a pizza. It sounds really fun for $6 + tips doesn't it?!?!
reid0 t1_ixhguib wrote
Those college students still get paid a delivery fee for every delivery. If you in-house the vehicles you end up with more reliable vehicles and lower daily expenses, you also open up the job to people who don’t own a car.
Ok-Dog-1855 t1_ixhi0b4 wrote
As someone who doesn’t order shit food, this doesn’t matter lol 😝
ThirdRuleOfFightClub t1_ixhiwgq wrote
No, I have seen one in a larger city I know they are real. What I mean is this is a Publicity stunt. It is there to show Domino's cares about the environment (besides the Lithun-ion battery stuff). But most of us won't get pizza delivered to us by way of EV's with Domino's wrapped on it.
Anyone that has done pizza delivery knows you use your own vehicle to deliver the pizza's. I wonder if the owners of the franchise locations that will have these EV's have to pay for upkeep on them, or if Domino's covers that.
PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixhkwie wrote
>Anyone that has done pizza delivery knows you use your own vehicle to deliver the pizza's.
Anyone that has a functioning brain knows that, I'm not sure what that has to do with this obviously different situation than what is typical.
That said, the local Jimmy John's has a "corporate car" that they use in addition to the drivers cars.
ThirdRuleOfFightClub t1_ixhlrce wrote
"Corporate car" like Jimmy John's pays for that vehicle or the franchisee pays to use it?
PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixhmz7k wrote
I think it belongs to the franchise owner. It's not like, branded or anything, aside from the logo magnets.
ThirdRuleOfFightClub t1_ixhoekc wrote
I know in our area JJ's Franchisee has a hummer H2 with vinal warped JJ's freaking fast stuff on it. I have always wondered if that was on the Franchisee or corporate to maintain it.
Domino's does a lot to support their Franchisee's to assure their success. I wonder if the EV's will go to higher visibility locations or if it goes off the Franchisee paying for it.
BromancingTheStein t1_ixi45f5 wrote
Now can they work on having pizza that doesn't taste like sugared cardboard?
whitefoot t1_ixibxle wrote
Well. Let's not get too excited. It's 800 cars but they have over 6000 locations.
danthieman t1_iy9zl2g wrote
Taylor, the brand that makes those ice cream machines, makes a certain machine especially for McDonald’s. It’s designed to break.
redingerforcongress OP t1_ixdgmqj wrote
> "We're excited that Domino's has chosen the Chevrolet Bolt EV to build their electric pizza delivery fleet in the U.S.," said Ed Peper, vice president of GM Fleet. "Both companies are committed to bettering our environment. GM plans to eliminate tailpipe emissions from new U.S. light duty vehicles by 2035. With an affordable price, fun driving characteristics, and a 259-mile range, the Chevy Bolt EV is the future of Domino's electrified deliveries."
> Michigan already has 12 of these electric vehicles, and expects 93 more to show up by the end of 2023, according to Domino’s interactive map.