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redingerforcongress OP t1_ixdgmqj wrote

> "We're excited that Domino's has chosen the Chevrolet Bolt EV to build their electric pizza delivery fleet in the U.S.," said Ed Peper, vice president of GM Fleet. "Both companies are committed to bettering our environment. GM plans to eliminate tailpipe emissions from new U.S. light duty vehicles by 2035. With an affordable price, fun driving characteristics, and a 259-mile range, the Chevy Bolt EV is the future of Domino's electrified deliveries."

> Michigan already has 12 of these electric vehicles, and expects 93 more to show up by the end of 2023, according to Domino’s interactive map.

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Lexa_Stanton t1_ixdk2gz wrote

I am sorry Sir. I understand your order is 3h late. But all our vehicules are out of charge.

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MoistPossum t1_ixdk2wg wrote

I've seen the commercials. How many people are going to order pizza from a different place just because they are jumping on the EV bandwagon?

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FuturologyBot t1_ixdlex4 wrote

The following submission statement was provided by /u/redingerforcongress:


> "We're excited that Domino's has chosen the Chevrolet Bolt EV to build their electric pizza delivery fleet in the U.S.," said Ed Peper, vice president of GM Fleet. "Both companies are committed to bettering our environment. GM plans to eliminate tailpipe emissions from new U.S. light duty vehicles by 2035. With an affordable price, fun driving characteristics, and a 259-mile range, the Chevy Bolt EV is the future of Domino's electrified deliveries."

> Michigan already has 12 of these electric vehicles, and expects 93 more to show up by the end of 2023, according to Domino’s interactive map.


Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/z1yh3i/dominos_pizza_will_soon_have_800_electric/ixdgmqj/

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SaltyBalty98 t1_ixdnzx9 wrote

I really hope things don't go the way of the McDonald's ice cream machines.

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RampantRooster t1_ixdopqb wrote

Tbh as someone who used to deliver pizzas, I'd take anything, EV or not, to avoid putting hundreds of miles a week on my own car.

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YoImBenwah t1_ixdpbj2 wrote

I used to live in Michigan and delivered pizzas, full-time. I kept all my receipts for 2016 in regards to my car (fuel, maintenance, parts like new blades et cetera) and filed a long-form which got me less than $100 short of the standard deduction, so I wasted all that time for absolutely no financial incentive.

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ThirdRuleOfFightClub t1_ixdpcqs wrote

This is a publicity stunt. Never seen a Domino's delivery vehicle in my area. They are usually the persons personal car they drive. It's just not financially viable for these franchise owners to upkeep a car while paying for the franchise tax. It has always been on the Delivery driver to provide the car from which they deliver pizzas from.

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Tiggles12-20 t1_ixdq77u wrote

Good! The faster we fall into this idiotic solution the faster we'll find it out it don't work.

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PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixdquy5 wrote

$1/delivery * 100 deliveries/day/vehicle * 7 * 50 (2 weeks off for various repairs or slow days over the year, = $35,000.

New Chevy bolt price: $25k? 27?

However that includes no upkeep... tires alone are like like 1-3K/year...

Maybe it's a good move?

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tayt087x t1_ixdspez wrote

What the fuck? These dickheads can't even make a decent pizza

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NorCalAthlete t1_ixdtvqr wrote

I mean, that’s kind of the point of the standard deduction though isn’t it? To save time for the people with the least to spare?

Let the people who can hire someone else to do their taxes and actually spend far more than the standard deduction worry about filing all that stuff.

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thehourglasses t1_ixdue1a wrote

And will continue using the same low quality meat and dairy products. The most climate-positive thing Domino’s can do is cease operating.

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austinmiles t1_ixdus9e wrote

Not in that amount. Municipal compost can also handle things like meat and bones. They mulch everything first which is why the compostable plastic works for them.

For smaller home compost I would probably not put any real trash in other than newspaper. Mostly because it dilutes the nutrients since its functionally sterile. We used to do lots of coffee, some citrus, small meat scraps, and newspapers layers in our vermiculture bin and it was CRAZY how fast they would run through everything. It was the richest compost I have ever seen.

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GoneIn61Seconds t1_ixdwm93 wrote

I'm old enough to remember when Domino's had it's original delivery fleet (mid 1980's?). Seems like a great use-case for small EVs, and franchises should have enough power available to charge cars since they already use high voltage for ovens.

The biggest hurdle might be delivery drivers who can't estimate distances and range properly, or who drive aggressively and drain batteries.

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GimmieJohnson t1_ixdx4yk wrote

Wake me up when they bring back their early 90s menu and recipe back. Bring back the noid.

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Mr-Mysterybox t1_ixdx7qe wrote

But their pizzas will still taste like crap so there's a trade off for trying to be environmentally conscious.

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Zoefschildpad t1_ixdy567 wrote

I think they have more than that in The Netherlands. They're all e-bikes, but still, technically electric vehicles.

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sanjsrik t1_ixdycoy wrote

And they still won't come inside an apartment building because <checking wild ass crazy paranoid dictionary> no, no idea.

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beachtrader t1_ixdzo88 wrote

That’s a start. But where I live dominos has no drivers or just one. So any order delivery by EV would be cool but I’ll still have to wait 1 1/2-2 hours for a pizza. They better make the jump to driverless for a real impact.

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Plastic-Bluebird-625 t1_ixe2g5u wrote

Yes, it's for the safety of people that have vision problems and just pedestrians in general. You can hear a combustion engine no problem but an electric one is nearly silent. Some car companies add a speaker in the front to make engine noises.

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mohirl t1_ixe4548 wrote

I was going to say that's going to make it a lot harder to tell which cars outside my nearest Domino's belong to their drivers, but realised I can still tell by the random erratic driving and parking on the footpath

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wifespissed t1_ixe499s wrote

"Damn John, this is gonna be expensive." "Don't worry Jim, I got it taken care of. We're just going to increase the delivery charge to $9.95."

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redingerforcongress OP t1_ixe4wth wrote

My Bolt only has chimes when I leave my driver door open; but those are internal chimes.

No reverse sounds either; backup camera activates with overhead view.

It does beep at me if I forget my keys in the car though

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bepisliving t1_ixe5p50 wrote

That’s like 16 per state if evenly distributed, which wouldn’t make much sense to me since some states surely do more volume than others. Still cool though.

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Bama-- t1_ixe6nbo wrote

Since when does Dominos provide the delivery vehicle everyone I've ever seen belonged to the driver

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AREssshhhk t1_ixe71u7 wrote

Who buys Domino’s pizza? I’m really curious. Every time I tried their pizza it’s the worst pizza I’ve ever had, like cardboard with ketchup on it. I would rather drive a little further for little Caesar’s and get slightly better pizza for like $6. I can’t understand how dominoes stays open. Will someone please explain this to me?

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BlackDawn07 t1_ixe76v3 wrote

I feel you on missing it. I make much more money overall where I am now...but there was always something freeing about not having really any responsibility and being able to spend most of your shift in your car blasting the radio.

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Val_kyria t1_ixe7km1 wrote

Depends how the franchise does reimbursement the per mile rate for us makes it worth using my own car.

Unfortunately the last time Domino's did a car things they had no plans for maintenance or accountability so the cars just got run into the ground and left to rot after a year

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redingerforcongress OP t1_ixe7vg9 wrote

Alright, let's do better math;

> According to a pizza delivery driver from Ohio, drivers can average “around 80–120 miles on your car per night

Let's estimate 100 miles per night;

Milage is $0.625 / mile; personal vehicle ownership assumes only 260 working days whereas fleet car is operating 360

Cost of milage for personal car [260 days]: $16,250

Cost of milage for personal car [360 days]: $22,500

Cost of milage for personal car [1800 days]: ~$112,500 [we assume this number is not accurate given that change in milage]

Each night, Dominos fleet major expense is electricity, which at residential rates of $0.10 / kwh, that'd be ~$2.85 / night / car [3.5 kw / mile, 100 miles / night]

Battery durability should allow for more than 80% after 5 years, 180,000 miles easily

So, looking at 5 year total;

Total cost of Bolt [1800 days]:

Electricity: $5130

Tires: $2400

Car: $27,000

Total: $34,530


I feel like I should just make this an algebraic expression so I can wolframalpha yall a chart when it makes sense for Dominos to buy their own fleet vs paying milage

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BourdainTiffin t1_ixe7ye5 wrote

We’re clearly going to transition away from internal combustion engines towards electric vehicles, and electric vehicles are clearly better for the planet. What’s the shenanigans part?

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ItsGermany t1_ixe8649 wrote

That is like me and my wife having .2 electric vehicles for us and my parents and grand parents and cousins and nephews and, well the whole family.

Get your shit together dominos! You feed us plastic cheese and drive a few electric cars.

We actually don't use gas or oil any more in our family, but it is expensive.

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gogomom t1_ixe8j5z wrote

Domino's is going to provide cars to drivers?????? This is the real headline.

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ral1232 t1_ixe8qei wrote

He is a troll. My friends and I love our engines but everyone with half a brain knows that electric is the future. Might create some pollution to create said battery but the fact is, you can fucking RECHARGE the battery. Not continue to burn gallon after gallon of fuel trying to do what a battery can do. These climate denying idiots are a disease greater than humans themselves. Think of an antibiotic resistant bacteria.. that’s what they are. Ironic lol

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Tiggles12-20 t1_ixe90wv wrote

Uh no it's not considering the gigantic holes we put into the earth just to get the Lithium to create batteries.

How do we dispose of batteries? What do we do with the solar panels after their 25 year life span? Cali is experiencing black outs right now and it's our biggest electrical grid, imagine the problems when all 5billion plus people plug in their cars.

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just-here-2-par-t t1_ixeanu4 wrote

Might make them feel better if they don’t think about amount of resources it takes to really deliver them their sub par cardboard topped with tomato sugar paste and what qualifies legally as mozzarella cheese in a box.

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gogomom t1_ixehc83 wrote

Hahahahaha... OK.

My husband worked for them delivering pizzas in 1998 - no dominoes cars anywhere to be seen. One of the plazas I do work for as a maintenance company has a Dominoes - all the delivery drivers are driving personal cars - we talked about it because of their parking situation.....

Maybe in some big city in the USA they have cars, but here, in Ontario Canada (there are 13 Dominoes stores within the city limits) - I've never seen a Dominoes branded car - ever.

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TheLastOne0001 t1_ixejlk3 wrote

One car per store so everyone is still delivering in their 96 Honda Civic except the one guy who's car has got a flat that month

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SpaghetiJesus t1_ixektor wrote

Am a MIT at Dominos that is getting one of these Bolts, was supposed to get them a month and a half ago actually, and while they’re talking about the environment in their press release, it’s almost entirely to long term save on mileage paid out to the drivers and then very slightly opening up better solutions to when you’re short handed on drivers and have an excess of insiders. Ot won’t save Dominos money in the short term but long term it’s going to add up to a ridiculous amount of year after year savings.

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Calexander3103 t1_ixevpfh wrote

Tires are 1-3k/yr??? I know I’m not a delivery driver, but that’s swapping my tires 2-6 times per year, and getting reasonable tires. Seems kind of excessive to me, but maybe I’m not swapping my tires often enough.

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Carlosaero22 t1_ixeyen6 wrote

Ain’t nobody going to buy your $20 pies in a recession. Don’t bother

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njc121 t1_ixeygri wrote

I'd have been impressed if they chose ebikes. Electric cars aren't really solving street congestion.

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hotfarts89 t1_ixezdll wrote

Next come up with a recipe that doesn’t cause me to have diarrhea in 8hrs or less.

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Neverlost99 t1_ixf0ut0 wrote

Should invest in how to make pizza. The product sucks

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ThatOtherOneReddit t1_ixf1ey8 wrote

Nice thing about Electric cars is that they need A LOT less maintenance. Big issue I see is that no way they go a whole day without a charge. With a highspeed charger if they can recharge it 20-30 miles in 5 minutes it will probably be fine.

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ThatOtherOneReddit t1_ixf1wd4 wrote

Think the bigger issue people that don't have this overhead get the same amount of a deduction. So a pizza delivery driver is spending more but getting less than a business would since their scale is just a single individual.

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Imapirateship t1_ixf1xz4 wrote

Weird to me dominos is investing in this instead of letting uber Doordash grubhub etc take care of this aspect of business

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MatterShim t1_ixf42fy wrote

Can they also make their pizza not taste like shit? I'd like to give them a reason to use those cars.

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Xxdosbeekeeperxx t1_ixf544f wrote

Can they also fix their gross food plz? I'm not a food snob, who doesn't indulge in some fast food once in awhile. The kids loves domino's. The last time they ordered it the pizza tasted like a fucking war crime.

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RampantRooster t1_ixf7s2w wrote

The store I worked for had a stupid large area, and even on the worst days, I don't think I ever put more than 80 miles on during an 8 hour shift. Get some cars with ~200 mile range, plug em in overnight and when a driver clocks out, and you're good.

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darkshark9 t1_ixfe2yu wrote

I used to work at Dominos. I am 100% certain these aren't actually going to be used by delivery drivers outside of mega-crunchtimes like the day of the Superbowl. These cars will be for the franchise owners and will probably sit in the store driveway as a form of advertising.

They'll keep making drivers use their own cars.

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Wichitaleafs t1_ixfe80a wrote

Soon Domino's will have 800 electric vehicles on chargers while gas vehicles are making deliveries.

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Suikeina t1_ixfewsi wrote

From someone who currently works at a Domino's... it's very possible that any company cars in your area are unbranded.

Until recently, my store's company car was a Chevy Spark. Completely unbranded, you'd never know it belonged to the company and not someone who worked there. Now we have a new Mazda DXP (I think its a mazda3 or 6) with Domino's branding all over it.

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RampantRooster t1_ixff4w1 wrote

I feel like they could do a lot better than Chevy Bolts for that. Mach-e's or something. And to be honest I think it really depends on if corporate is freely allocating these cars to stores, or if they're gonna charge the stores/drivers somehow to use them. I know the Papa John's franchise I worked for wouldn't take the cars unless they were free.

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Certain-Ad-3840 t1_ixfhchz wrote

Our roads are gonna be like that one scene in Fahrenheit 451 with the cars driving at 200 miles an hour

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LivingPepper6866 t1_ixfn1yc wrote

Still gonna charge the $6 delivery fee? I already know it’s not a tip for the drivers ty.

FYI my D store is 3 miles away and I always tip $8 🙌

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KJ6BWB t1_ixfpa4m wrote

> Depends how the franchise does reimbursement the per mile rate for us makes it worth using my own car.

This. How much are they going to charge drivers for the dubious privilege of not using their own car?

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Excellent-Ad-5100 t1_ixftoaz wrote

Nice. Now we need to convince them to deliver other people’s pizza

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Rare_Basil_243 t1_ixfwo8w wrote

I can't get the interactive map on the website to see EVs in use near you to work... can anyone else?

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arizona-lad t1_ixfxrsn wrote

They can afford to buy 800 new cars, but can’t afford to pay a living wage to their employees. What is wrong with this picture?

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hamisme t1_ixfyjhs wrote

I live in western MA, and I have recently has dominos for the first time since I was in high school (twelve years ago) my 6y.o daughter wanted to try it after seeing an ad on Hulu. 50 dollars later I got a med pie and some cheesey bread. I spit out my first bite and gagged on the second. The sauce is trash. Canned paste. The toppings were worse… but that dough… worst thing I’ve had in a long fucking time. My daughter didn’t even want to eat it. Absolute waste of money. I can’t believe I helped keep this horrible company afloat by buying from them. They need to hang up their hats, be honest with themselves, and close for good. I feel horrible for anyone who thinks this is what a decent pizza tastes like.

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RampantRooster t1_ixg3daz wrote

I can only speak from my own experience, and I worked as a driver from about May 2011 to July 2015 at Papa John's.

At the time, our delivery fee was $2, and I got $1 per delivery flat for mileage. So the answer is "partly". The boxes we used at the time had the whole "the delivery fee isn't paid out to the driver, so please tip" thing, but it wasn't 100% true. I don't know how it's changed since.

I got 100% of the tip, minus any I tipped out to the in store workers.

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fartingwiffvengeance t1_ixg66ha wrote

I ordered not long ago. Currently it is a five dollar delivery fee. Then they go on to say please appreciate our drivers (because we don’t) and leave them a tip. I was cynical believing that the mandatory five dollar fee goes to the store and not to the driver who is actually doing the delivering and also risking their ass out there. I normally don’t do any delivery but I had Covid. I didn’t want to go out and infect people for pizza.

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RampantRooster t1_ixg998x wrote

It's gotten stupid, and I've seen the same amounts for delivery fees.

To be honest, I'd fully believe it's just greed and the store is pocketing most, if not all, of that five bucks. But I don't know for sure, obviously.

For what it's worth, I did also make minimum wage hourly. It wasn't that sort of situation where I got less hourly because tips. 7+ years ago, me making ~$16/hour after tips and before gas and vehicle maintenance was actually pretty decent for a college student where I lived. Those 8-9 hour weekend closing shifts where I'd go home with $130 in my pocket were pretty nice.

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MarsAlgea3791 t1_ixga4q9 wrote

On the day the anniversary edition of Snow Crash comes out, this. The universe may be sentient, because there is a damn sense of humor at work here.

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slavid180501 t1_ixgbhs0 wrote

But it’s domino’s pizza being delivered by them still, so no thanks.

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Kaiju_zero t1_ixge8ac wrote

Oh, if you saw the totals on orders at my local pizza place for pick up and delivery on any given night, you'd think $20 was a bargain. 60-200 orders a night, the average being over $20 is a regular thing where I am at.

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Digital-Bionics t1_ixgi8p6 wrote

If you're eating that crap the least one ought to do is to walk to get it

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PrinceDusk t1_ixgpt8a wrote

currently driving for Papa John's, yea. Technically you could think of it as "partly" but it's basically just an increase in food price by a different name.

At $3.50 an order, in my delivery area to go to the farthest point is maybe 12 miles round trip, I'm getting paid $0.45/mi, which actually by my math is $5.40 to be fair, however, we normally take 2 or more deliveries per trip, also the VAST majority of our orders is within a mile of us, so going on 2-3 miles round trip for most of our orders that makes only $0.90-$1.20 of that $3.50.

If I make 15 runs in a shift (maybe a slightly high average for me) I make the store about $52.50 minimum, and I get $1-2 per run for mileage, so that means about half the delivery fee, at best, makes it to me and I'm getting 5.50/hr driving and if I average $2 in mileage then I'm still not hitting federal minimum wage without someone tipping. And if you don't tip to stick it to the business then you're just kicking the poor driver that's just trying to make some money without breaking their back or shelling out a ton for college...

moral of the story, if you get something delivered and don't tip then you're just hurting a server, the delivery fee is not a tip and mileage paid can fluctuate. If you don't like delivery fees or tipping, then - with all due respect - use your own car to go get your own food.

(none of any perceived salt was directed at you specifically, fartingwiffvengeance)

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erath_droid t1_ixgsqk9 wrote

800 electric vehicles... across their (checks notes) 6000 plus stores.

Yeah, not too hopeful about this, to be honest...

Especially considering the state of their "E-bikes" and the Prius that my local Dominos bought (that all of the drivers refuse to use since it's in such bad condition....)

Considering that most Dominos are franchises and corporate says things like "Use this new E-Bike" or "Buy more electric vehicles" and the franchisees are all like "Whatever..."

Pure greenwashing.

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Reali5t t1_ixgums4 wrote

  • Why is my pizza late?

  • We had to wait for the car to charge.

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Savagescythe t1_ixgvqj1 wrote

Funny enough 800 is nothing compared to the amount of delivery drivers. They will be used but I’m unsure how often. In my area we have/had a dominos car but from what I saw the district abs regional mangers used it to get around and publicity.

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SolidGreenDay t1_ixgwz96 wrote

Bolt EVs are not very fast at charging. According to them it's up to 95 miles in 30 minutes, but I believe they will manage since any idle time the car gets at the store it would be charging assuming they setup chargers near or at their stores.

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iamtheeggman9000 t1_ixh19ju wrote

this isn’t news, it is cheap, unsubstantiated advertisement, just like the dominoes fixing potholes campaign. a bunch of backwards logic that makes it look “progressive” but in actuality has little to no actual benefit while a garbage company can appear “woke” and caring about real world problems.

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FoggyBinky t1_ixh8qt5 wrote

Oh how nice, I hope the electric cars will help wash dishes and make the pizza too. And mop the floors, clean the make line and counters, answer the phones, check the dates on product, grant customer refunds, go pick up supplies from other stores because you've ran out, take triple and quadruple order runs because your coworkers called off on a busy day...oh and don't worry we're gonna track all your mileage so we don't pay you a cent more than you deserve and harass your phone when you're not back to the store because some customer took ten minutes to answer their phone as you're beating on their door because they forgot they ordered a pizza. It sounds really fun for $6 + tips doesn't it?!?!

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reid0 t1_ixhguib wrote

Those college students still get paid a delivery fee for every delivery. If you in-house the vehicles you end up with more reliable vehicles and lower daily expenses, you also open up the job to people who don’t own a car.

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Ok-Dog-1855 t1_ixhi0b4 wrote

As someone who doesn’t order shit food, this doesn’t matter lol 😝

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ThirdRuleOfFightClub t1_ixhiwgq wrote

No, I have seen one in a larger city I know they are real. What I mean is this is a Publicity stunt. It is there to show Domino's cares about the environment (besides the Lithun-ion battery stuff). But most of us won't get pizza delivered to us by way of EV's with Domino's wrapped on it.

Anyone that has done pizza delivery knows you use your own vehicle to deliver the pizza's. I wonder if the owners of the franchise locations that will have these EV's have to pay for upkeep on them, or if Domino's covers that.

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PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET t1_ixhkwie wrote

>Anyone that has done pizza delivery knows you use your own vehicle to deliver the pizza's.

Anyone that has a functioning brain knows that, I'm not sure what that has to do with this obviously different situation than what is typical.

That said, the local Jimmy John's has a "corporate car" that they use in addition to the drivers cars.

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ThirdRuleOfFightClub t1_ixhoekc wrote

I know in our area JJ's Franchisee has a hummer H2 with vinal warped JJ's freaking fast stuff on it. I have always wondered if that was on the Franchisee or corporate to maintain it.

Domino's does a lot to support their Franchisee's to assure their success. I wonder if the EV's will go to higher visibility locations or if it goes off the Franchisee paying for it.

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BromancingTheStein t1_ixi45f5 wrote

Now can they work on having pizza that doesn't taste like sugared cardboard?

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