We don't need new hardware, at this point it's just a computer science problem

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I'd say it is a combination of things, but realize that ChatGPT came out just a few months ago. I would not be surprised if Google catches up within the year. Things are moving extremely fast. It may be that Google has something way bettr than ChatGPT in terms of capability, but they are more conservative regarding safety.

Remember it was OpenAI tech that went off the rails in the Bing chat mode.

Everyone in the industry realizes just how dangerous this stuff is. "Playing with fire" is about as much of an understatement as you could have. Google might just be playing it safe, and prioritizing safety/alignment over capabilities.

Ai driven virus attacking infrastructure such as power and water would kill millions in a hot climate or cold climate. Very few people live in the "just right" zones. Then we have weoponized drones that could be controlled by the new AI and you suddenly have skynet. We already have the drones like the x-47 the newest c varient can carry 10k of munitions. Now imagine an automated factory controlled by AI mass producing them, and installing their AI in them, then them flying to a loading area where robots arm and fuel them all without a single human hand. Then think about how many of the world has cell phones, targeted malware to overcharge/overload the lithium batteries.

In my previous life I was an FRA certified Conductor and Engineer for Union Pacific. If FritzyBoy does anything it will be to remove the conductor and leave just the engineer and hope PTC doesn't wreck on every grade it comes across, that or ripping the train apart.

They were already trying to do that shit while I was with them and then they decided to go with this 'precision railroading' stuff and removed something like 16,000 rules, allowed train crews to shove without announced protection and a bunch of other shit.

I called all the train wrecks back in 2016 when they started whining about profits and stripping rules. Nothing that has happened is surprising to those of us that have worked in the industry. It's pure greed

I hate to say this, but it appears like Bing could actually overtake Google in the coming years if ChatGPT works with web search in the same creative way. It could also summarize the search results in a way that means you don't have to browse some random websites or watch some crappy 7 year old youtube videos but just get the information. Like for example, I had to search what the error code E1 meant on my dishwasher in google. I got some user manuals I could search manually through, a few websites that had the code but had different solutions to solving the problem, and I just asked chatGPT the same question and this is the result:

>The error code "E1" on a Samsung dishwasher typically indicates a problem with the dishwasher's water supply. Specifically, this error code suggests that the dishwasher is not getting enough water, or the water is not entering the dishwasher at the correct temperature.
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>To resolve this issue, try the following steps:
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>Check the water supply to the dishwasher to make sure it is turned on and the water pressure is sufficient.
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>Make sure the dishwasher's water inlet valve is not clogged or damaged. The valve is usually located at the bottom of the dishwasher and can be cleaned or replaced if necessary.
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>Inspect the dishwasher's water supply hose for any kinks, twists, or other damage that could be restricting water flow.
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>Check the temperature of the water entering the dishwasher. It should be between 120 and 160 degrees Fahrenheit. If the water temperature is too low, the dishwasher may not operate correctly.
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>Once you've completed these steps, turn the power back on and run a cycle to see if the error code has cleared.
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>If the error code persists, it may indicate a more serious problem with the dishwasher's water supply system or control board, and you may need to contact a qualified technician to diagnose and repair the issue.

I had turned the valve off to the dishwasher when I worked on the garbage disposal and forgot to turn the valve back on, and with a simple explanation of the code I knew what I needed to do. Easy. And I was able to figure that out a lot simpler with ChatGPT and it isn't even doing bing search, it is just the chat client.

Because Google is an advertisement and content-gatekeeper revenue company.

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This is why, for one example, Google Assistant doesn't ever seem to get any better. There's no revenue in it. Like if your Galaxy Watch 4 decides it hears you over any other device it'll tell you "Routines aren't supported yet". But why not just hand it off to the other speaker in the room that decided it wasn't The One that time for some reason. Or realize you're in your home and it shouldn't respond on the watch at all. Or just run the routine and notify if it breaks. Anything would be better than "Request denied".

Google can't get simple stuff done anywhere ads and/or Play Store revenue isn't directly involved.

It's why you can receive important stuff in Gmail that somehow never makes it to the All Mail folder. Unsurprisingly, you gotta Search for it.

It's why they have time to block buying movies and subscribing to channels on the Amazon Prime Video app. (must use web browser) - to ensure the Play Store content is much more convenient. Meanwhile the Prime Video android app versions loaded from outside the play store even look different now. Thanks Samsung!

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Google services are becoming the next Comcast. Watch what the big 3 cloud platforms do over the next year. AI is going to need a lot more cloud.

I agree I hope it's more star trek or that way of living than anything, true self aware thinking A.I. with all the knowledge in the world may decide that the worst of humans is greed and eliminate it thus giving all a utopia to live in where money has no value and creativity knowledge and freedom of being is what all strive fore. Like in some sy fy movies and books. Either way it will be out of our hands in a flash.

Worth your time:

The A.I. Dilemma - March 9, 2023

This video is from a presentation at a private gathering in San Francisco on March 9th with leading technologists and decision-makers with the ability to influence the future of large-language model AIs. This presentation was given before the launch of GPT-4.

"50% of AI researchers believe there's a 10% or greater chance that humans go extinct from our inability to control AI."

Introduced by Steve Wozniak.

https://vimeo.com/809258916/92b420d98a

The presenters, Aza Raskin & Tristan Harris, did "The Social Dilemma" which has been seen 100 million times.

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Meh, gas is still currently more cost efficient. Unless you find yourself with excess free electricity from you're solar - reliably throughout the year, heat pumps will cost more to run.

Odd? Redwood is already claiming 96% So an explanation as to why this is somehow relevant is indicated.

Maybe they are exploring a different pathway with a different cost/payoff matrix?

I honestly haven’t been on a project that didn’t have them in over a year

These are the genuine questions asked about any sustainable method. It's cheaper to level a forest than it is to recycle paper, so why shouldn't we just do that instead, always?

The answer is that it isn't going to always be possible. That's what sustainability means.

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Chatgpt is a language model. It has no ability to critically think. It codes at the level of a kid copying random code from github.

>The fact is that people need interaction with people

That is your intuition, and probably most people's intuition. I think it is based on the fact that non-people have not, until november 2022, been able to have an intelligent, natural conversation with a person.

If you don't think ChatGPT is able to "have an intelligent, natural conversation with a person," here in 2023, I'm not going to argue. If you don't think that ChatGPT or some competitor will be able to do that in 2030, I think you lack imagination (and probably simply lack experience exploring what ChatGPT can actually do today).

But even if you are right, that people need to interact with people, that doesn't mean we need humans to prepare their meals, help them go to the bathroom and bathe (I definitely would prefer a robot to a human for that), get them around, make sure they take their medications, etc. If they need human interaction, what's wrong with the robot caretaker helping them get on video chat with their kids and grandkids, or with other elders who have similar needs for interaction?

I could certainly see an elder community where hundreds of residents have one or two paid humans to run everything, with the robots doing all the unpleasant and tedious stuff. Human interaction is handled not by paid staff, but by other residents.

Remember also that, in a society where most jobs can be done by machines, there are a whole lot more family members that have time to interact with their loved ones, rather than paying someone to come in and pretend to enjoy interacting with a very old person.

What specific thing does a caretaker do that must be a human?

You miss the point. Were you around when Apple products first came to market? The internet? Did you say to yourself, “wow this will change life as we know it - it will reshape how we live our lives, the job market, the world economy” If you did, I hope you’re a billionaire by now. The point is, we are just on the cusp Al. As with past Technology revolutions, from where we sit today, the vast majority of people can’t possibly imagine what the possibilities will become. OP doesn’t think AI is a massive disruptor. I do.

Very interesting read, thanks for sharing!

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As I said, it depend entirely on the products in question as well as the market. Aluminum is valuable enough to more than pay for salvaging costs for most products that contain a meaningful amount.

Glass meanwhile is currently not cost-effective because the value of salvaged glass has recently fallen below the salvaging cost, even though glass recycling was quite cost-effective in the past. The market is just as important as anything else here.

Solar panels are not cost effective at all to salvage as their components are not particularly valuable but are quite costly to salvage from the panels. Thus they are piling up in landfills wherever there are no regulations that require proper recycling.

That sounded suspiciously like chat GPT

Better tax the rich and get the services scaled up. I think there will be many people that look for new careers anyway.

The goal of automation must be redirecting human labor towards better services on quality and quantity eventually.

But without taxing the rich, or bringing down capitalism eventually, it is all pretty pointless anyway.

Nickel isn't rare. Cobalt isn't rare either but almost all of it comes from the Congo and has pretty severe human rights issues. The good news is there are already cobalt free EVs like the base Tesla Model 3 and all EV makers have reduced the amount of cobalt in their batteries.

Cobalt is also used to refine oil so that's a fun fact that more people need to be aware of.