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MattMasterChief t1_jcjm8kb wrote

“Outside the limit of our sight, feeding off us, perched on top of us, from birth to death, are our owners! Our owners! They have us. They control us! They are our masters! Wake up! They're all about you! All around you!”

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borgpot t1_jck36vw wrote

I like the German original better: "Wer sich nicht bewegt spürt seine Fesseln nicht."

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kon--- t1_jck4pyb wrote

Objectively false though. Figuratively as well.

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Syrton t1_jckapsj wrote

That woman was unfathomably based. Gone too soon

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Idaho_Cowboy t1_jckfevi wrote

Can someone fill me on how the painting fits with the quote?

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usernamedunbeentaken t1_jckgv8u wrote

"Those who do not move out of their chair in their parents' basement, do not notice how much better they have it than all who live under communism"

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rishisarva t1_jckkoel wrote

Their is no thing as chain. Are we limited?

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dillrepair t1_jckoihs wrote

But also sometimes lying flat isn’t a bad option.

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Jay727 t1_jckomwl wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,253,050)

She was shot by paramilitairs, not hanged.

She and the KPD played a major role in getting rid of the German monarchy, that killed millions in a senseless war. SPD or KPD, they should all be considered heroes and founders of the German Republic.

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Admaril t1_jckr03e wrote

Replying to Jay727 (#2,253,909)

The german monarchy didn't cause the first world war. Also it's abolition is why they ended up with a braindead constitution. Destabilising the country, getting Article 48 anywhere near the constitution and creating a massive power vaccum on the political right was completely disasterous. She deserves nothing but derision.

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Jay727 t1_jcksnwf wrote

Replying to Admaril (#2,254,047)

The German Monarchy literally declared war on France an Russia and attacked neutral Belgium and Luxemburg ans went on to invade France. Nobody forced Germany into war and since Austria was the attacker against Serbia, Germany (like Italy) wasn't even bound to fight on Austria's side by their defense contract.

Germany was literally the state that forced half of Europe into war.

Wilhelm II is mass murderer. Getting rid of him and his monarchy justifies almost any action of anyone in this period of time. They slaugthered the right pig.

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nertynertt t1_jckt9zc wrote

Replying to TheDukeOfNukeEm (#2,253,353)

Good for her! Perhaps we shouldn't let dogmatic preconceived notions about an ideology blind us from what the person materially advocated for. Should read some more of her stuff, might be surprised at how much it resonates.

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Admaril t1_jckx9og wrote

Replying to Jay727 (#2,254,131)

So by your own admission, they didn't start the war. Great.

> Wilhelm II is mass murderer. Getting rid of him and his monarchy justifies almost any action of anyone in this period of time. They slaugthered the right pig.

Proceeds to glorify the system that directly resulted in Nazi Germany. Because apparently replacing the Kaiser and reducing the role to a purely ceremonial one is worse than giving a president completely unchecked power.

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Slazon t1_jckyn9h wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,253,050)

Rosa said: "socialism or barbarism". The barbarians killed her and her people. Then, the barbarians went and stablished the Nazi Regime. The rest is history. Barbarian history.

So, she was right. The answer was (still is) socialism.

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Admaril t1_jckza7p wrote

Replying to Slazon (#2,254,476)

She was a barbarian.

Those who seek to seize power without the consent of the governed are nothing more than thugs. The Freikorps were entirely justified in putting her ambitions to rest.

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ValyrianJedi t1_jcl0oa2 wrote

What does this have to do with getting motivated?

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Slazon t1_jcl26rh wrote

Replying to Admaril (#2,254,516)

Are you a nazi dude? You are defending the Freikorps. They went to do their own coup in 1920 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapp_Putsch), and failed. And most of those Freikorps went to help in the rise of Hitler and the Nazis to power.

If the Rosa Spartacist had won, the Nazis would't had come to power.

Are you truly defending far-right fascists?

Just lol. Lmao even.

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YeeeahYouGetIt t1_jcl2nh5 wrote

Rosa has never been in chains I’ll tell you that for damn sure

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Sonyguyus t1_jcl35ah wrote

Those that don’t move don’t need chains

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draculamilktoast t1_jclas5m wrote

That old man should definitely stop being enslaved by literature. /s

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zerik100 t1_jcleggq wrote

damn deep title really opened my eyes 😔🚬

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bloody_rambo t1_jclomdv wrote

If it's written by a dirtie commie, it doesn't deserve attention. Move along.

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borgpot t1_jclu603 wrote

Replying to AlarmingAffect0 (#2,256,167)

I guess she means that if you never try to move (escape your socioeconomic class), you won’t feel the (socioeconomic) shackles holding you down. At least that is how I interpret this quote.

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Tararator18 t1_jcluo8t wrote

Lmaooo, sneaky communist propaganda, nice!

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AlarmingAffect0 t1_jclurqp wrote

Replying to Admaril (#2,254,412)

> So by your own admission, they didn't start the war.

Depends on how you define 'start' and 'the War'. They didn't 'start' the Austrian invasion of Serbia but they gave them the diplomatic blank check that allowed this to happen. They then went on to pre-emptively attack France via Belgium, starting the full on World War as we know it. Perhaps you might say their diplomatic agreements gave them no choice, except there's been no shortage of chickening out on such assurances of allyship in the previous decades, averting war many times, and the reason the current alliances were set up in the way they are is that Wilhelm II, genius that he was, deluded himself into thinking he was great at personal diplomacy and that he was smarter than Bismarck, ruining every alliance he had by pissing everyone off being a rude weirdo, and generally being an incompetent and a laughingstock at every damn thing he did that wasn't playing dressup. Which, admittedly, he was great at.

I pity the fool because of his horrible childhood and the terrible upbringing that directly made him who he is, but that doesn't excuse his choices.

Monarchies are a bad idea, and monarchists are the saddest and most pitiful kind of simp.

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Slazon t1_jclvbpg wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,256,248)

A 30 days old account, with negative karma and few comments. And most of said comments are just insults.

An alt. Maybe a fellow nazi of Admaril. Who knows.

Anyways, follow your leader.

Chau che.

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Glowshroom t1_jclwl6t wrote

Main takeaway is that lazy people are happier.

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YeeeahYouGetIt t1_jclz9ho wrote

Replying to AlarmingAffect0 (#2,256,363)

I suspect there is a misunderstanding taking place if you find my point (to review, my point is that people wearing chains notice that they are wearing chains) counterintuitive. I would be happy to elaborate further about my point if you can be a bit more specific about what our disagreement here is.

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Admaril t1_jcm0gqr wrote

Replying to AlarmingAffect0 (#2,256,287)

>Because apparently replacing the Kaiser and reducing the role to a purely ceremonial one is worse than giving a president completely unchecked power.

You are comparing a hypothetical figurehead to a president that had a "Become a dictator" button on their desk. What are you doing?

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FriendlyLurker9001 t1_jcm29ig wrote

Replying to just_yall (#2,256,600)

The fact that you said to Google Rosa Luxemburg supports the previous comment regarding how absurd it is to pull that meaning from a painting that had absolutely nothing to do with the topic

You can pull that meaning from the quote, but the painting still has nothing to do with it

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Anubis2059 t1_jcm4oy9 wrote

Kratos: "It has grown accustomed to its chains"

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blackwaterwednesday t1_jcmcgal wrote

“The greatest form of control is when you think you're free when you're being fundamentally manipulated and dictated to. One form of dictatorship is being in a prison cell and you can see the bars and touch them. The other one is sitting in a prison cell but you can 't see the bars and you think you 're free.”

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redditurus_est t1_jcmhbw1 wrote

Replying to Patrizsche (#2,256,171)

This interpretation actually isn't too far off. The clothing heavily implies class and Carl Spitzweg, the painter of "Der Antiquar" said about the painting that, "everybody has his throne", meaning that the antiquarian is so absorbed in his old books that he doesn't even notice the upper class ladies with very risque back-decolletés for their time. So while the artist viewed it in a more romantic way (fitting for his time and art style) a more left leaning interpretation is also possible here. Source.

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AlternativeAccessory t1_jcng1jd wrote

Replying to YoutubeBuzzkil1 (#2,255,577)

My mind goes to:
“We forge the chains we wear in life” - Charles Dickens
“To envision a world without chains but recognize that we as individuals, can only chip away at the links. One at a time, day by day. To have the ability to wage quiet wars in our everyday lives and recognize the subtle victories when they happen” - 1905

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TheWrecklessFlamingo t1_jcnufqm wrote

the chains holding me down are American Capitalism so i cant really do much about it cant i...

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SlipsonSurfaces t1_jco255v wrote

How I interpret it is, probably because my life is pretty sedentary, is because on the seemingly rare occasion it gets better, I don't realize how limited or dull my life was. For example, I met one of my best friends in late 2019, then another I started talking to in late 2021. Before I met them, I thought 'eh I don't really need friends' and I was just so blah. When I formed those friendships, it's like a big void in my life was filled. And I didn't know it was even there.

So what I'm basically saying is, you don't know what you're missing till you have it. Until you start moving (being a better person, making healthier choices, being more active, physically and socially) you don't realize how chained down you were by either self-imposed restrictions or restrictions thrust upon you by life.

But that's my interpretation. 🤷

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garry4321 t1_jcpktqz wrote

Also known as: those who are comfortable need not worry about their limitations.

If you’re fine where you are, you don’t need to look for reasons to be stressed and want more. That’s such a capitalist culture where you can never be satisfied with your life.

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luckylineup26 t1_jcqnsxn wrote

So deep, I guess it means that I would never find my unlimited potential if I don't try.

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ElKaWeh t1_jcr8xdv wrote

ok, better don't move then

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