You’re right that we didn’t talk much about this in the podcast. We addressed it briefly – this would be the testimony of the Laffoons, another couple that lived in Leo and Michelle’s neighborhood. Basically, once you really look at the content of statements and testimony given by Randy and Mary Laffoon, it just doesn’t hold up under scrutiny. Or at least, it didn’t hold up for Gilbert and I. The Laffoons couldn’t give a particular day or time for when they saw these vehicles. They couldn’t identify anyone they supposedly saw out at the scene. And they couldn’t agree on which vehicles they saw. Additionally, they didn’t give these statements until nearly a year and a half after Michelle’s murder. By that time, they’d already previously spoken to police, but told the detectives they hadn’t seen anything. It was only at the direction of Alice Scott – and again, nearly a year and a half later – that they told Prosecutor John Aguero about the vehicle sightings. Most of the details that get told about the testimony of the Laffoons come from John Aguero and the State Attorney’s Office, instead of from the testimony itself. The State has distorted the couple’s testimony to fit their theory of the crime, and this has been repeated again and again to support Leo’s conviction.

-K.D.