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me_not_at_work t1_j57t37v wrote

Except when there's water on top of the ice.

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[deleted] OP t1_j57vur3 wrote

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me_not_at_work t1_j57xcpc wrote

As someone who has been driving in Canada for 45 years, I can tell you categorically that you can have water on top of black ice.

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