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xEdwin23x t1_jca7kxx wrote

Google has probably used stuff from OpenAI too (decoder only GPT-style training or CLIP or Diffusion or Dall-E ideas maybe?). Anyways, it's clear they (and probably every large tech company with big AI teams) are in an arms race at this point. Its definitely not a coincidence Google, OpenAI / Microsoft released on the same day, and we also heard Baidu is releasing sometime these days. Meta and others will be probably following suite. The publicity (and the market share for this new technologies) is worth too much.

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NoScallion2450 t1_jca7ykx wrote

Not saying Google is better or OpenAI is better. But could they now be engaging in patent battles as it seems like now there is significant comercial interest at stake? And also OpenAI not releasing any details means for AI research going forward.

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xEdwin23x t1_jca8d58 wrote

It's probably not in their interest as they know they both will end up worse if they decide to follow that path.

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Snoo-64902 t1_jcahhn6 wrote

They may be worse off, but the world will be better off.

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NoScallion2450 t1_jca8qxo wrote

What do you say so? For Google its probably peanuts in terms of cost. And there is a clear case for them to make that transfomers originated with them.

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xEdwin23x t1_jca9kr0 wrote

OpenAI is not a small company either. It may be a "startup" but it's clearly backed by Microsoft and between those two there's probably quite a lot of patents that Google have used in the past too.

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NoScallion2450 t1_jcaci1w wrote

Well that depends on whether OpenAI can prove Google is deriving commerical value from OpenAI's patented research. On the other hand for OpenAI, I can see a clear case of using idea from other labs (Google -- Attention is all you need)

But just to clarify, I am not on one side or either. Definitely a bit sad for AI research going forward. But would be interested in knowing how the landscape changes.

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MrTacobeans t1_jcagwir wrote

I don't know anything about this side of AI but when it's boiled down it's fancy algorithms, can those be patented?

Maybe that's the driving force of the "open" nature of AI. An algorithm can't be patented but a product based on that can be. Kinda like how LAMBDA has the non-commercial license but if a community rebuilt it under a permissive license that'd be totally kosher.

This may be why openAI is being hush about their innovations because if it's published someone else can copy it without the legal woes.

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The_frozen_one t1_jcb4t0y wrote

> Well that depends on whether OpenAI can prove Google is deriving commerical value from OpenAI's patented research.

That's not an issue, people make money due to patented technologies all the time. That's different from infringing on a patent. Either way, it would be an incredibly messy battle. Google invented the T in GPT, I can't imagine Google doesn't have a deep AI patent portfolio.

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Kenyth t1_jcbc5p5 wrote

Baidu is set to announce its latest ChatGPT counterpart tomorrow Beijing time.

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