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[deleted] t1_iww042z wrote

I just don’t get why people are leaving Twitter just because of Elon Musk. Not trying to be rude but I just don’t get it

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Guygan t1_iww64ic wrote

You asked for coin buckets at the turnpike, so maybe the reasons will be hard for you to understand?

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Bywater t1_iwx8eiv wrote

That is serious r/MurderedByWords material right there.

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[deleted] t1_iww861t wrote

Doesn’t answer my question but cute by looking up my history

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pennieblack t1_iww8kf1 wrote

We're a small subreddit, bub - your post is still on the front page of /new.

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Guygan t1_iww8jci wrote

I didn’t look anything up. I just remembered your post.

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[deleted] t1_iww9pw7 wrote

Care to explain why people are leaving Twitter or are you just going to be snarky in responding to my posts?

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TravellingTransGirl t1_iwwgn8a wrote

Two reasons:

  1. Musk's vision for the Twitter product is theoretically and practically destroying what was great about Twitter.
    1. His dogmatic approach to free speech is resulting in a wave of hate speech underming any semblance of reasonable discourse on the platform.
    2. The pay to play model for verification ($8 for blue check) is actually undermining 1 above as the newly introduced Twitter algorithm will promote "verified" accounts to the top of your Twitter stream while suppressing the "unverified" accounts further down.
  2. Musk's business strategy is unethical.
    1. Demanding employees "lick his boot" with seemingly zero input/oversite from internal committees.
    2. Cutting headcount because his failing product model in 1 above is resulting in negative future cash flow estimates.
    3. Leveraging employees from Tesla to support with Twitter.
    4. Leveraging Tesla/SpaceX equity to bolster the failing business of Twitter (keep in mind Tesla and SpaceX receive funding from the govt so he is indirectly using our tax money to pad his failure).

Given these concerns, it is reasonable for a person to simply not want to engage with Twitter especially because the value of Twitter is the content the individual user provides to it.

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edit: oh, one other major thing, Musk is a manchild rightwing memer who a lot of people find despicable on surface level actions alone. As such, simply not wanting to associate with that shit stain is sufficient for many.

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sy33d_am33r_ali t1_iwwq2hr wrote

My understanding is that he is asking employees to sign some kind of loyalty pledge to keep their jobs, which includes commitments like “working longer hours and overtime at a high intensity” and not working from home.

I would probably quit my job if my new boss casually demanded that I double my workload and abandon any pretense of work-life balance as well.

It’s not hard to understand why people aren’t into this.

Then again, fuck twitter. It’s not like they were good for the world before Musk either. May he run them into the ground and lose all the money he spent!

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RagnarDaViking t1_iwzivh1 wrote

Yeah, even with a name like Elon Musk, how can you be any good. Sounds like a star trek character. Haha

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IamSauerKraut t1_iwwjeqk wrote

The Musk Virus will kill more things in a shorter time frame than the covid virus ever did.

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sheeponabowl t1_iwwc3xc wrote

u/guygan is really good at being snarky tbh. You’ll see it quite often.

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Guygan t1_iwwc7kx wrote

It’s my brand

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OhDeBabies t1_iwwg7h4 wrote

I enjoy it! Not to be a creep but whenever I notice a particularly snarky comment on /r/sailing and see that it's you, I think to myself "Ah, the humor of my people*"

*^(Dark) ^(Mainer) ^(who) ^(may) ^(or) ^(may) ^(not) ^(be) ^(too) ^(online)

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Guygan t1_iwx8xqh wrote

hmu if you want to go sailing this coming summer.

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Bywater t1_iwx8h4y wrote

We are pretty sure it's his only redeeming feature...

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Bywater t1_iwx8pgn wrote

I suspect the vast majority is due to the fact that Musk continues to remove any doubt about what a garbage human being he is. There were times when those things didn't matter, but not anymore. People, particularly young folks, will happily go without something if they thing the people who own it are shitty.

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speeb OP t1_iww9dxw wrote

Personally, my Twitter use dropped off a lot the past couple of years. It was getting to be exhausting and more and more negative. Elon pushed me to find something else.

With Mastodon, I'm hoping to find something like the BBSes of olden times - a group of users free to converse either with the users of their own board or checking out the networked message boards.

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[deleted] t1_iww9svs wrote

Fair enough

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speeb OP t1_iwwbccu wrote

Oh, but also, fuck that guy and how he's treating both the users and employees.

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anode_cathode t1_iwwfrc1 wrote

Well, 90% of the employees are gone, some core teams are down to 0 employees, and no one can honestly tell you what his plans are for the site. He doesn't even seem to know what his plans are for the site. Twitter may not even be able to function in the near future. Most people I know are just hedging their bets at this point, especially folks who use it for commerce.

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Antnee83 t1_iwx2vm9 wrote

I'll answer your question in good faith. Completely leaving out how Elon is a douche, and pretending like I have no idea who he is:

  • Fired and forced out a shitload of staff in charge of security. Why would I want to hang out on a site that has no one at the wheel?

  • Is allowing racists to come have a platform again. Don't wanna drink at the Nazi bar, sorry

  • See point 1: since no one is at the wheel, the site crashes all the time now. Go look at the downdetector chart for the last few days. Why would I want to fuck with a site that's never up?

That's just the big three.

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[deleted] t1_iwx5ma1 wrote

Well people weren’t up in arms about Twitter for having Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Twitter for being a violent dictator? But now some nazi profiles are showing up it’s Musks fault? No one ever blamed Jack Dorsey for allowing Ali on Twitter. Seems like just bs media propaganda and gas lighting about Musk. I guess some people get passes and others take the blame. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me and selective outrage

Meanwhile, Zuckerberg is downsizing and FIRING Facebook employees and hardly a word has been spoken on that subject.

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KYazut t1_iwyu67r wrote

It no longer provides people the value in return for their information and free content that it once did.

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RatherNerdy t1_iwwf0ri wrote

It's a shit show. Abuse, hate speech, etc. increased hugely once he took over. He treats employees like garbage and like he's hiring from a craigslist ad. He has huge biases against anyone that doesn't align with him. Etc

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IamSauerKraut t1_iwwjm1d wrote

He is using Tesla employees in an effort to keep the twitter platform from collapsing entirely into his hubris.

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rich6490 t1_iwwpowa wrote

I don’t get why the idiots here downvote you for making a valid, smart point. Some things can’t be explained.

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[deleted] t1_iwx2puh wrote

Probably the same ones abandoning twitter who knows?

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