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boon4376 t1_iwjcala wrote
There are a lot of people that don't know where their property lines actually are, or they're just plain delusional, particularly lower income rural people who claim to own hundreds of acres, mountains, etc.
Seen it play out a few times.
bigtencopy t1_iwh6j7w wrote
Typical boundary dispute, usually with someone who just moved to the area. Same shit going on where I am. Its gross
SeanSeanySean t1_iwh5zz1 wrote
Live in NH, these things do happen around here as well, usually pretty rare though. You end up with an abutter that doesn't want/like the hunting, or firearms discharged close to them, they may not know their own property lines, or the person allowing hunting sometimes overestimates their own boundaries.
I personally don't mind hunting, I have a 60 acre lot on one side of me and a 180 acre lot on another, both owners hunt and both allow other hunters to use their land. I've been here 19 years, and 99% of the hunters are respectful and safe, but I had an incident 9 years ago where my wife and I were in the yard with our daughters and our two dogs and we heard 6 or 7 very close rifle shots, all within maybe 6 seconds, with at least 4 cracking past us, one of which we later found in the tree 5 feet from our front door and 10 feet in front of my kids sandbox. I told my wife to bring the kids in the house, put the dogs on leashes and started heading for the treeline when two hunters emerged from my property directly into my backyard, neither was wearing orange jacket, vest, shirt or hat, one was wearing a plate carrier with spare ammo mags, carrying an AR-10 in his best "tacticool" wannabe military way, slung, rifle pointed down but with his finger on the trigger, the other was just carrying a bolt-action 300 Win Mag cannon, for deer. I lost my cool, asked them what the hell they were doing walking on my property armed, with no hunting colors, one looking like a wannabe paramilitary contractor, and explaining how at least four of those shots cracked past us and I knew they were shooting towards my house from less than 100 yards. They claimed to have permission to hunt back there, that they were unaware that my property was in between the two larger lots, had no idea our house was there and then had the balls to ask me if we saw a deer run through our yard and if I'd be cool with letting them "track through", when I told them absolutely not, one guy tried claiming that I "legally had to let them track an injured animal through my property". I told them that I consider anyone walking on my property armed in tactical gear and not displaying as a hunter as an immediate threat and would be forced to grab a weapon and respond to that threat accordingly. They actually called the police on me, claiming that they were just "innocent hunters" and I was "some treehugger threatening to shoot them". I made them get off my property and told them to go stand in the road waiting for the police. When the police showed up 30 minutes later, they spoke to them first, then they came up to me, I explained what happened, the fact that their 7 uncontrolled rapid shots were clearly fired without knowing or caring what was behind their intended target (my home and yard), the fact that I was outside with my wife, kids and dogs that could have been hit, the fact that they came into MY yard armed, zero trigger discipline, wearing tactical gear with no hunting colors. Officer informed me that there is actually no law REQUIRING hunter orange when hunting on private property, but it's recommended to keep from getting yourself shot, but he also said "you could have legally shot both of them dead and there is little we could have done about it, I'm going to tell them that with the recent changes to Castle Doctrine in NH, they're lucky to be alive pulling something like that, and I'm referring them to the NH Fish and Game warden, they'll likely never hunt legally in this state again".
Now again, stuff like this is pretty rare, but it's idiots like the above that can ruin it for everyone. While we now have two neighbors with ranges & steel targets within 200 yards of my house, both were considerate enough to put large dirt berms behind them and have no homes within 1000 yards behind the ranges, and usually only shoot between 10am and 6pm, neither of us fortunately work nights.
megamoose4 t1_iwi0hd8 wrote
I know it’s so damn cliché to say at this point but….
Typically masshole.
Runnah5555 t1_iwhdrjh wrote
I enjoy that out of staters do everything they can to make our state as shitty as the one they left.
Super-Lychee8852 t1_iwgxnrt wrote
That's a pretty unique situation. Best stay out of it for this season, I'd say check back next year.
saigonk t1_iwhf2r9 wrote
2nd vote for stay out of the middle of it, the last thing you want is to upset either landowner and be locked out entirely.
bubba1819 t1_iwgybku wrote
Yeah, that was my thought as well.
bigtencopy t1_iwhx5wv wrote
Know any local surveyors? Hell, you can even look at tax maps and find the boundary line.
bubba1819 t1_iwhyzp0 wrote
No idea. I took down my stand and got out of the whole situation. It’s a bummer but I don’t want to be caught in the middle of this property dispute. The land is a big piece and no where near any development, so it’s not like I was hunting near this Massachusetts persons new house. If anything, their getting ready to have it logged.
The guy who gave me permission to hunt there said that he walked the property pins himself and that my stand was squarely on his land but I still don’t want to be caught in the middle of the whole mess, so I’m out lol. I feel bad that I may have given hunters a bad name making this person from Mass think I was hunting without permission but there’s nothing I can do about it. I tried to do everything the right way.
ecco-domenica t1_iwi5f4v wrote
You did do everything the right way. Stuff happens.
LLambguy t1_iwir4xw wrote
There is an "app" for your phone that realtors frequently use - I've spaced the name, but google it. They have a seven day free trial that works without hassles. As a former tax assessor, I've tested it around my area - seems spot on. That is, if you want to know what is registered with your town office...
OnionCityChives t1_iwjfjh5 wrote
In_betweener t1_iwk51gq wrote
Huntstand uses this data too.
surfcreagan t1_iwjx0f6 wrote
No! Do not rely on tax maps for property lines. The lines on tax maps are approximations. Very likely the cause of the dispute between the hunter friendly landowner and the "no hunting" jerk.
MeanFluffyBunny t1_iwlf1gy wrote
My tax map actually says I own 10 more acres than I really do…
bigtencopy t1_iwktv4h wrote
Well yeah I wouldn’t rely, but it gives you a general idea of where to look for a pin or a blazed line.
Dangerdoom911 t1_iwjinkk wrote
Wait a second… someone from Mass came up here and is imposing themselves on other peoples land?
madkingsentobln t1_iwkngtz wrote
I'm absolutely SHOCKED(/s) that some cockbag from away is ruining Mainers recreation.
Always seems like they try to make Maine just as shitty as the state(s) they leave.
MathematicianGlum880 t1_iwicbvr wrote
Unfortunately, someone probably went on his land that didn’t get permission and now he’s upset. I agree with others in letting it sit a year.
OnionCityChives t1_iwjfemg wrote
onX Hunt has pretty accurate maps which include landowner information. It might be fun for you to look up your [old] stand and see where it landed.
imnotyourbrahh t1_iwjgy6z wrote
deer can't see purple. carry on...
Slmmnslmn t1_iwkog9d wrote
Sounds like my Dads land. He gives permission for hunters on his land. His neighbors hate it and try to mark his property as theirs.
utilitarian_wanderer t1_iwlc49b wrote
I wouldn't let anyone put a tree stand on my property. Too much of a liability. I know a man who fell out of one and died. Not worth the risk.
[deleted] OP t1_iwmzmzs wrote
Basically my stance on it. I don't have anything against hunting in general, just the assholes who give me shit when I want to be outdoors, too. A lot of good folk I know are hunters.
I still wouldn't let them put a stand on land I owned. They fall, break their leg, they can sue you because it happened on your property.
Safer to say "sorry not here".
HiggityHank t1_iwn24kh wrote
Tony-Flags t1_iwme2i7 wrote
If I was you I would head on down to The Winchester, grab a pint and wait for this whole thing to blow over.
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bubba1819 t1_iwj7tu4 wrote
“…as well as permission for the two others to hunt out of it.” Think you missed that bit of the description.
GoArmyNG t1_iwkpxh7 wrote
Fucking Massholes. I hate that out of state people do this shit.
DifferenceMore5431 t1_iwgy6ep wrote
Sounds like just a run-of-the-mill boundary dispute. Not really your fight, I would stay away if there is any ambiguity at all about whose land it is.