Recent comments in /f/Newark

Jimmy_kong253 t1_jec561i wrote

This is every city how they are allowed to shutdown a sidewalk and get away with telling people to Cross the street is beyond me. The Shaq tower was the worst offender I seen the elderly and people having to run across the busy intersection because they didn't know the sidewalk was shutdown

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NewNewark OP t1_jebz05w wrote

So you acknowledge that the choice was made between maintaining a car lane or providing a safe and accessible path for pedestrians. In other words, the title of this thread.

A travel lane, by the way, that is almost always filled with parked cars with their hazards on, making it not much of a lane at all.

If extremely crowded Manhattan can find the space to always provide a walkway, than so can Newark.

Regardless, the burden of how the accommodation is provided should fall on the construction people.

Heres another example in NYC with two simultaneous projects

One side of the street they build an in-road walkway
https://goo.gl/maps/iqJRCwpifbBUwLFY9

So presumably the folks across the street who started their construction later had to create a pedestrian tunnel since they couldnt use another lane

https://goo.gl/maps/EzHQQ62uBuD8obB76
https://goo.gl/maps/EAA5Pzp6g2NbRaAx5

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GhostOfRobertTreat t1_jebx4mz wrote

So that is a good point that I hadn’t considered. Apologies. Obviously I did not mean that blind people are idiots.

What is the general practice in that case for when it’s not considered a good idea to remove a lane of traffic to accommodate? In some places you narrow a lane but this would be taking a two lane thoroughfare down to one and probably cause other issues.

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NewNewark OP t1_jebvcta wrote

Not providing a safe walkway can lead to someone getting killed. The area has heavy pedestrian traffic and "temporary" can mean anything from 1 week to 5 years in this city. And it shouldnt be allowed for more than a few hours for a true emergency repair.

Go spend an hour in NYC and youll find every single construction site has a pedestrian walkway.

Example:
https://goo.gl/maps/9CQxh7ib5tFRyvUT7
https://goo.gl/maps/BxDe6TkonMb9PacP6

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GhostOfRobertTreat t1_jebsub3 wrote

There are certainly things to point to that the city can do better but this is just a temporary condition for construction. I wouldn’t count this along with the lack of bike lanes, bump outs, etc. when done, the pedestrian access will be restored. It’s not a permanent issue.

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nerdmom2020 OP t1_jebha6s wrote

There are quite a few locations in New Jersey where you are not required to drive into actual traffic during a road test. Lodi and Rahway for example has a closed circuit. Wayne I believe is in a parking lot. Just wanted to check if something changed in Newark.

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NewNewark t1_jeb4hqa wrote

Its not about the brightness, its about the design.

For any streetlight design, including the standard cobra or the "historic" looking lamps the city loves, the side facing the building can be shielded by simply using a thin piece of metal, as shown here

https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/618113-street-light-shielding/#

Of course the better option is to instead use a lamp design that properly lights the street and sidewalk instead of sending 3/4 of the light in the wrong direction (up, into bedrooms)

https://images.adsttc.com/media/images/620f/e040/3e4b/3104/6c00/0009/slideshow/fi2.jpg?1645207589

Just because something is bad now doesnt mean it is ok to get worse.

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