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LookAtThatHotTurtle OP t1_iy9daz9 wrote
“1979” is clearly referring to the year of the Islamic take over (not the picture), and “before” is a pretty key word here.
RufusLoudermilk t1_iy9j9qz wrote
Capital, not capitol.
RufusLoudermilk t1_iy9jegv wrote
Fourth from left is a woman.
Testosterone_Lover t1_iy9juy0 wrote
Great time
Vaelin_Wolf t1_iy9mo3b wrote
I wonder if it's before or after the US overthrew the democratically elected government to install a corrupt puppet
hiro111 t1_iy9o1hn wrote
Who, young Frank Vincent?
TheParisCommune1871 t1_iy9p3je wrote
Before or after the overthrow of Mohammad Mosaddegh?
FartPoopFartAgain t1_iy9pvsg wrote
I'm sure that this is a perfectly accurate representation of the majority of people in Iran at the time. A time where everyone was rich and thriving and no one was poor.
the_way_around t1_iy9t50f wrote
If you're gonna be a pedant in life or on reddit...ya at least better get it right.
GirthIgnorer t1_iy9u4gc wrote
love how common this weird parenthetical is
Udzinraski2 t1_iy9vjlm wrote
ynazuma t1_iy9vmpa wrote
Yeah, cause now it's way better than when the Shah was running things /s
ynazuma t1_iy9vwgr wrote
Yup, unlike now when Iran is a thriving hub of prosperity and education
Specially for women, you can tell right away, now is way better
/s
GentleSaidTheRaven t1_iy9wfll wrote
When da booze was a flowing and the women were a plenty.
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not_that_planet t1_iy9zrg8 wrote
Great googly moogly I hate you ;-)
not_that_planet t1_iy9zzx2 wrote
USA looks on disdainfully: "Can't happen here..."
CompteurGeiger t1_iya1rem wrote
District 12, actually.
_night_cat t1_iya253p wrote
Persian women are gorgeous
mikesphone1979 t1_iya7t4f wrote
What a year!
fatherbowie t1_iya8tmf wrote
I feel like the last part of that post title was unnecessary.
maizTuson9 t1_iyad72s wrote
Maybe don't overthrow democratically-elected, secular government? Not sure why you're on here running cover for the Shah's regime, it's fucking pathetic and gross
US_FixNotScrewitUp t1_iyadeiv wrote
Thank goodness they don’t have the US backed Shah anymore and enjoy individual freedoms now. /s
Max1234567890123 t1_iyagkp1 wrote
The waiter is a person
Automatic_Flight_659 t1_iyahha9 wrote
Well, he wasn’t a religious nut, but his secret police kept the prisons and torture chambers full too.
Turnip-Jumpy t1_iyaiso4 wrote
Nope non 7th century rules good letting women wear what they want good mollas who send their families to the west ruling the country good
Global_Damage t1_iyaiu4q wrote
A good friend of mine wrote “Titan of Tehran” about grandfather, who was one of the first executed when Khomeini took power. He had been on Khomeini’s radar because he was trying to modernize the country
ynazuma t1_iyajipy wrote
The only thing that is pathetic and gross is your misrepresentation of there being a "democratically elected government".
Mosaddegh manipulated elections to suit his needs:
The voting process was stopped by Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh after enough MPs were elected to form a parliamentary quorum (79 out of 136).[2] The decision is viewed as manipulation, because Mosaddegh meant to prevent opposition candidates taking seats from rural areas.[3
Hardly an icon of democracy...
Also, although I deeply disagree with rule by royalty, the house of Pahlavi were the legitimate rulers of Iran.
Mohammad Reza came to power during World War II after an Anglo-Soviet invasion forced the abdication of his father, Reza Shah Pahlavi.
Also, Reza was Shah while Mosaddegh was prime Minister. Mossadeh took power for his own purposes
During Mohammad Reza's reign, the British owned oil industry was briefly nationalized by Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh until an Army coup d'état supported by the UK and the US deposed Mosaddegh, reinstalled the Shah, and brought back foreign oil firms under the Consortium Agreement of 1954.[5]
Nobody was a white dove dude. Everyone likes to idolize these figures like they were great men. They were just as flawed and sometimes corrupt as today's politicians. Get your head out of your butt.
Electronic-Dog-586 t1_iyaliei wrote
Allow me to tweak the title a bit “ Mid 20th century wedding in Iran ( before the US backed a cu and installed a puppet dictator who promised Oil to the US)
MilhouseVsEvil t1_iyalok4 wrote
So this is your argument for when it's ok to overthrow a democratically elected government and install a puppet regime? The whole revolution was triggered by social injustice. Not everyone in Iran had the privilege to buy clothes from department stores and take photos.
LookAtThatHotTurtle OP t1_iyalqpp wrote
Added to my reading list!
Sounds like there could be some parallels to my family’s history.
maizTuson9 t1_iyals3j wrote
>During Mohammad Reza's reign, the British owned oil industry was briefly nationalized by Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh until an Army coup d'état supported by the UK and the US deposed Mosaddegh, reinstalled the Shah, and brought back foreign oil firms under the Consortium Agreement of 1954.[5]
Are you trying to imply that this was a bad thing? Because it was unequivocally good for him to nationalize oil. And obviously he isn't a "white dove", but he was still much better than what came after. Again, that you try and defend the Shah is gross af.
MilhouseVsEvil t1_iyalvwm wrote
shhhh don't disturb the circle jerk
kiranhi t1_iyam3cb wrote
Horrible take
Berkeleybear70 t1_iyam4pf wrote
Iran was a great place before the islamists ruined it.
Turnip-Jumpy t1_iyan5yx wrote
Tell the Iranian protestors that lol also sharia bad actually
LookAtThatHotTurtle OP t1_iyan70z wrote
Nah, it was after that
JustAnotherRedditAlt t1_iyanb0z wrote
The first lady from the left is looking at her husband.
The second (seated) man from the left is also looking at his wife.
The third (seated) man from the left is also looking at man #2's wife...
kiranhi t1_iyane29 wrote
What on earth are you talking about lmao
MilhouseVsEvil t1_iyann7o wrote
Yeah the individual freedoms of the elite and urban class were all that mattered and that's what brought the Shah down. You think the farmers and working class care about individual freedoms when they are starving and burying their children? The Islamic Revival got a free pass to victory.
Turnip-Jumpy t1_iyanqwk wrote
Islamic theocracy is bad
kiranhi t1_iyanyv6 wrote
Damn dude what a ripping hot take Lmao . Yes. Obviously. I thought we were discussing the historial implications of US intervention in a sovereign nation in the 50s not whether a religious theocracy is bad. Lmao. Goddamn you’re stupid.
Turnip-Jumpy t1_iyao9nt wrote
The original comment was not about that.
kiranhi t1_iyaob1h wrote
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Ok-Distribution-3605 t1_iyaqrtk wrote
Looks like Caucasus in Soviet Union
AgentProvocateur666 t1_iyau1pi wrote
Fun fact. This was also the first picture(that I know of) with a cell phone on the table. Ms is looking at it realizing she forgot to put it in her purse(normal in Iran back then) and will be captured in the lone picture taken of their table that night.
BrillantPebbles t1_iyawq4z wrote
Burkas are not Islamic and it's current rulers are practicing a satanic version of Islam.
Greasedick69 t1_iyaxmwd wrote
Maggie thatcher approved the operation to fly khomeini into the country lol
Greasedick69 t1_iyay2t9 wrote
Epic bacon m’redditor
x31b t1_iyay8ga wrote
And when the mullahs took over, they kept and expanded that same secret police.
Source: last paragraph of the Wikipedia article on SAVAK.
Greasedick69 t1_iyay9u1 wrote
It already is, would arguably be a lot more normal without the US led embargo and constant assassinations of its scientists and military leaders by Mossad
x31b t1_iyaye09 wrote
You know nothing of history.
AliWalnuts t1_iyb18qe wrote
I thought for a second that the women dead center was my grandmother
AliWalnuts t1_iyb1smh wrote
It’s just resting Persian face. We can’t help it sometimes
I_Think_I_Cant t1_iyb3mgn wrote
The screams of the dissidents being tortured by the secret police were replaced by the screams of the dissidents being tortured by the religious secret police.
Tigers19121999 t1_iyb7f56 wrote
If you understand history this period was also very oppressive. There's a reason there was a revolt.
Tigers19121999 t1_iyb7yd0 wrote
Ask any linguist and they'll tell you understandability matters more than technical correctness. Everyone who reads the comment will be able to understand it even though there's an error. With that being the case there's no reason to correct the mistake other than to shame the writer.
AalamTaab t1_iyb8usw wrote
It quite literally was you idiot
zwinters57 t1_iybilwk wrote
Yes they are, especially before they break their noses and restructure their face
Not_as_cool_anymore t1_iybn7kk wrote
They beat the US by ~70 yrs, but our bullshit Christian theocracy is coming. Feel bad for my kids
x4ty2 t1_iybnei8 wrote
Like, I'm not Iranian, I'm Yugoslav. The humanizing of these oppressed people cannot be over done. I see my family in this photo, figuratively. This isn't a revelation, but a reminder.
StanleyChoude t1_iybnh6b wrote
A run-of-the-mill linguist may say such a thing, but I would be hard pressed to find a cunning linguist who would agree.
Unable-Ladder-9190 t1_iybohs8 wrote
Before the Islamic Republic, the US backed Shah was not an elected leader, nor was he friendly to freedom. The U.S. spurred the overthrow of the legitimately elected leader in the mid fifties and placed the Shah in power. The Islamic Republic is awful but don’t pretend “everyday” Iranians were free during the Shah’s reign
Tigers19121999 t1_iybqazi wrote
I see what you did there 😏
Old_Car_2702 t1_iybr31m wrote
Humanized because they’re dressed in Western costumes?
x4ty2 t1_iybuc4q wrote
No, that they are at a party in a b&w photo having fun and it's a few decades old. They are all appearing with consent and not being displayed as terrorists/survivors/victims or anything associated with violence. This kind of photo could be in many people's albums.
grettp3 t1_iyc1kxc wrote
Oh yeah we forgot the US totally didn’t orchestrate a coup to oust Mosaddegh. That’s totally not like verifiable history or anything. You fucking moron.
grettp3 t1_iyc1lld wrote
Normal to you people means under the US’s boot.
TheBlackManIsG0d t1_iycbteh wrote
Fun at the expense of who?
PrinceVince1988 t1_iycdv2w wrote
Imagine that todays people would go back to living in a cave… it’s exactly the same but on a different scale
ggtffhhhjhg t1_iycgrh8 wrote
If your response is the Islamic Revolution that’s on you.
x31b t1_iyco01a wrote
You’re the moron. Mossadegh was ousted in 1953 for trying to overthrow the king.
This picture was taken in the 1960s. Well after that. Not before.
Dash_2 t1_iycsowm wrote
I mean y’all keep trying to do that with all the division. It’s pretty funny.
Dash_2 t1_iycst8s wrote
Yes sir, this here is correct. They did the same dirty play from Cuba to the Arabs. Problem is Arabs weren’t as dumb as us Hispanics. Oh well
Dash_2 t1_iyct2s1 wrote
It ain’t even that bad if you legit read the book. Bro there’s a reason Jefferson had his own specific Bible. Too many fanatics will use the word for oppression. It’s used for liberation, and sadly as humans and brothers we don’t want each other liberated. It’s truly sad after 2000+ years we still at odds with ourselves. I feel bad for our kids because of that. Stay well and blessed, too many fakes out here trying to tell y’all what to do and how to feel.
Dash_2 t1_iyct5gg wrote
Problem with Islam is it was founded on lies, and god didn’t like that.
Dash_2 t1_iyct9ay wrote
This is why they had them go incognito mode.
I’m glad I didn’t only notice that.
x4ty2 t1_iycw8zz wrote
It's a party. You have fun at parties. Who hurt you?
noshowshattuck t1_iyd7l8e wrote
That would be best for everyone it seems
Cloverhonney t1_iydburm wrote
They have missing that lifestyle for a long time.
Vaelin_Wolf t1_iyddggc wrote
The US put the Shah in power.
Key_Ad_9166 t1_iydlrpx wrote
Criticizing the Shah's regime which overthrew a democratically elected government doesn't mean you support the Islamic Republic
Jjabrony t1_iydn6nt wrote
Without getting into a whole geopolitical discussion, I simply meant a government run by & for the majority of its citizens. Theocratic & Monarchical rule serves only a small minority of parasites.
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Substantial_Okra_632 t1_iydodf6 wrote
You mean after the US did the coup? There are only two period since 1950 in Iran. One is after coup caused by US and resettling up of puppet monarchu and 2nd is after islamic revolution.
No_Leopard_706 t1_iydyqtw wrote
It wasnt a revolt in anything other than religious
redmous3 t1_iydz29l wrote
No, capitol is correct
Tigers19121999 t1_iydzx29 wrote
Well they literally overthrew the government so maybe instead of being Islamophobic you learn the history of Persia/Iran.
Greasedick69 t1_iye61pm wrote
I hate to break it to you but the extremely conservative cleric regime does represent the interests of a gigantic slice of people. You just don’t see them because they live outside of Tehran and thus outside the apertures of western cameras.
No_Leopard_706 t1_iyed311 wrote
isis overthrew governments too, doesn't mean their revolution was legit or honorable
Tigers19121999 t1_iyek250 wrote
The Islamic Republic is not ISIS, it's not even comparable.
The Pahlavi Dynasty, as backed by Western oil interests from The US and English governments, were arguably just as oppressive. That's the important history that Islamophobic posts like this purposely leave out. The Iranians of this time didn't have freedom either.
No_Leopard_706 t1_iyekvah wrote
Well they certainly don't have it now
Tigers19121999 t1_iyen9gu wrote
It depends on what freedoms we're talking about. For example, a republic (albeit a very flawed one) is much better than an Authoritarian Monarchy.
Zealousideal_Way_831 t1_iyeq4zo wrote
You may find this hard to belive, but things change over time. Novel idea, huh?
Not every shithead starts as a shithead.
LookAtThatHotTurtle OP t1_iy996pr wrote
I believe this is in Tehran (the capitol).