reverendsteveii t1_isu3sc0 wrote on October 18, 2022 at 6:38 PM

Reply to comment by BluCurry8 in U.S. Supreme Court backs Republican in Pennsylvania ballots case by MandoFett123456

>Everything online is trackable

Explain how, and why online fraud is still in the hundreds of billions of dollars a year if the solution is simply "track it, everything online is trackable"

psychcaptain t1_isu7z9v wrote on October 18, 2022 at 7:05 PM

I mean, in theory, I think we could, but the cost would probably be far greater than returns.

That being said, happy to see us go after the larger fish when it's feasible.

BluCurry8 t1_isubu28 wrote on October 18, 2022 at 7:30 PM

How much do we spend on elections every years? Billions. We should put a tax on every political donation and PAC to pay for secure elections. We have the means, but of course why would we invest money on decent infrastructure!

BluCurry8 t1_isu8pki wrote on October 18, 2022 at 7:10 PM

Everything is trackable, that does not mean that companies investigate fraud all the way to putting a person in jail. Most of it is written off. That does not mean that they can’t track it, it means the chose not to pay for resources to do the investigations. They are making a decision to write off bad debt rather than pay the costs to track it down and have it prosecuted. Happens all the time, especially in insurance. They just pass the costs off to other customers. Most of these crimes require accountants and IT professionals. How many police departments hire accountants and IT professionals along with the computer equipment they need?

reverendsteveii t1_isubtaq wrote on October 18, 2022 at 7:29 PM

Ah, so you've no expertise at all and you're guessing based on how you think the world works. Okay, have a great day!

BluCurry8 t1_isudpp7 wrote on October 18, 2022 at 7:41 PM

????? I’ve worked in IT for the last 23 years and managed a infrastructure and Network Security program, but sure you do not like my easily verifiable answer and therefore try to tell me I do not know what I am talking about!!! Use Google and do some research.

trs21219 t1_isufq04 wrote on October 18, 2022 at 7:54 PM

You may be in IT, but I'm gonna guess you've never defended a mission critical distributed application / network against every major nation state attacker all at once.

If you implement a vote online system, that's exactly what you would have; China, Russia, Hell even some of our supposed allies all trying to hack their way in at the same time to skew the elections in their favor. And you may know after the fact that there was a hack, but good luck finding what they changed once they have root level access to your network.

Lastly the government is generally terrible at everything they implement technology wise. They couldn't even launch a healthcare website without months of issues and overrun budgets. I don't trust them to develop and secure un-auditable digital systems that determine who is in power.

Voting online is just an all around terrible idea.