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wagsman t1_it8wlhu wrote

Dont believe any of this shit. All you need to know is its a 50/50 toss up so go out and vote. Then get someone else to go vote.

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tyrael459 t1_it8xnyp wrote

Yea I don’t know about this. Sure doesn’t feel like that on the ground. I think Oz has a decent shot. People around me seem way more willing to vote for him than Mastriano, at least.

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Powerful-Anywhere761 t1_it8y2ma wrote

Yes. Agree with this.

Mastriano is an awful choice, but at least he has the “experience”. Find it quite odd that it’s as close as it is between Fetterman and Oz being that Oz is a Hollywood candidate.

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QuakerZen t1_it8z0zz wrote

Polls mean nothing. Votes matter. Go vote.

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Woodyee101 t1_it91gc3 wrote

What about the Hunter Laptop story. Remember that was disinformation at first. Now it’s real.

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darkbloo64 t1_it93zoz wrote

I got an email confirming that the polling center received my ballot this morning.

Go vote. Oz isn't a joke unless we make him one.

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KenMacMillan123 t1_it94das wrote

This is from an old salon article that posted in August

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axeville t1_it96itn wrote

Ukraine needed weapons and Trump withdrew aid for political dirt. Zelenskyy wasn't joking about the need for weapons and neither was the pentagon. Hunter Biden is not relevant anymore than trumps goofy kids or 6 ex wives.

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tyrael459 t1_it9bncf wrote

I definitely disagree with Fetterman on some things. But Oz would further support all this abortion bullshit, education bullshit, and gun bullshit that the Republicans keep pushing even against popular opinion.

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axeville t1_it9fl5l wrote

Us has had special ops training Ukrainian forces for min 3 years before the invasion. Source: spoke to the guy training them.

Your story isn't even a good conspiracy theory.

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jkman61494 t1_it9j1y1 wrote

The collapse in polls story is months old. Please don’t pass on false info. They’re mere points apart

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hobbykitjr t1_it9kmt5 wrote

it scares me that Oz even has 2 votes in the polls. No one should like him.

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IntoTheMirror t1_it9mm4l wrote

What kind of laptop you think it was? Dell? Thinkpad? I like Thinkpads a lot but Dell seems to be much more dominate in the business space due to their excellent customer support for business clients.

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FuzzPunkMutt t1_it9nksh wrote

They've been drinking the right-wing bullshit for decades. All the diahrea that flows out of Tucker Carlson's mouth (which itself is just regurgitated Rush Limbaugh shit) flows out of the TV and Radio and directly into the hungry and eager low information voting block.

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axeville t1_it9ok0a wrote

I believe that Hunter Biden has a laptop and is probably an idiot son of a politician but he's not exactly brokering peace in the Middle East while Eric trump is also an idiot and thinks he can make peace with the Arabs bc his brother in law is Jewish. Same w Donald trump jr. Tiffany and Ivanka and they are all in the freaking White House despite having zero background in diplomacy, never served in the military (at least Hunter made an attempt) and are hustling hotel brands and makeup kits and fashion. Hunter prob doesn't speak Ukrainian and knows nothing about Gas. This is nepotism and not a crime or trump would be in jail or indicted a third time.

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yeags86 t1_it9r9af wrote

Kushner got two billion from Saudi Arabia, which is fact.

Let me know when you find real info about Biden taking millions from Russia and China. And if you can, tell me how Kushner isn’t worse.

And I don’t see Hunter anywhere near the Whitehouse, unlike Trumps kids.

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yeags86 t1_it9ryqa wrote

Lenovo beats Dell any day of the week.

I’ll die on that hill before believing Hunter Biden is just a “well, he does drugs too, so it’s ok that Don Jr does!” Even though Jr was in the administration and Hunter is not.

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--Cr1imsoN-- t1_it9tfbq wrote

Let’s be honest though, I feel like Shapiro doesn’t need to work that hard against Mastrino. Mastrino is doing a good enough job being disliked. Only people voting for him are the neo-fascists and people who blindly vote on party lines without a second thought. Mastrino isn’t winning any of the independents. Oz is a fantastic piece of shit, but he doesn’t come off as batshit crazy like Mastrino.

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JackieDaytona27 t1_it9v93t wrote

The lead has most definitely narrowed between the two.

Why?

Realistically, it isn't as much the crime messaging by Oz as the Republicans realizing that Oz has the R next to his name, and will hold their nose and vote for the R

What does that mean?

That we're dealing with retirees that actively resent the world around them and are high on misinformation and prescription drugs. And they will vote like clockwork

What does that mean for dems and leftists?

We have to vote with the same tenacity as retirees that want to watch the world burn (and stop the tiny, green, drag queen fairies from stealing their drugs)

And that means, I do not want to hear a single, self absorbed reason from a dem or leftist for not voting this election. ESPECIALLY since vote by mail is simple and easy to use

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Otter592 t1_it9wnr4 wrote

The thing is that there are a LOT of people who will vote for the Republican candidate no matter who they are or what they stand for. This is the case with all republican family members in both my and my husband's family at least.

The level of fear my in-laws have of democrats in power is astonishing. During the last presidential election, they said they were genuinely afraid that if Biden were elected, they would no longer be allowed to attend church. They're Catholic. Biden is a life long, practicing Catholic. But they thought he and the American government, founded on religious freedom, were literally going to shut down churches. These are well-educated, upper middle class people. And they vote.

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delco_trash t1_it9wvs2 wrote

Oz could still win this. Go vote for fetterman, and please get your friends and family to vote for John fetterman as well.

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Teknofiliak t1_it9zvoe wrote

Great. Another pro Fetterman post. I've never seen one on in /r/Pennsylvania before.

Dear God.

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IamSauerKraut t1_ita7q6r wrote

Yessssshhhhh... so that, as his father before him, he makes all his money off Americans and then retires to the country to which he has sworn an oath.

(and that country is not the US)

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marmenia t1_itaat7o wrote

Oz is Turkey proxy in US and Turkey is not a friend of US any more ! Turkey president Erdugan betrayed US and West democracies many time by closing his ties with Russia in all levels of business and military. No to OZ!

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Or0b0ur0s t1_itaezhx wrote

I'm not so sure.

Presuming that this race was never as close as reported, and by a wide margin as I'm apparently hearing... then the Media is complicit.

The question is WHY?

Your post is making me question. I hadn't thought there was a positive spin to be put on making everything into a "horserace" when it really isn't, but it might actually drive turnout.

Personally I thought it was the usual, implicit right-wing bias seeking to dispirit Democratic voters, since Republicans always seem to have a fighting chance in the polls regardless of the insanity of their positions, campaigns, or behavior (see Walker...).

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EarthRester t1_itai2g7 wrote

This is the end game of The Southern Strategy. Decades ago the Republican party encouraged the willfully ignorant to make voting Republican part of their identity. Never realizing that they wouldn't stop there. Eventually the willfully ignorant began electing EACHOTHER. They've consumed the GOP, and now all the conservatives who don't actively hate LGBT, women, and PoC run as Democrat or else they can't get elected.

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tabshiftescape t1_itak2ip wrote

Before I knew much about either candidate, sure. The more I looked into their backgrounds, the more I’ve been convinced.

Trust me—there are many many right leaning moderates who no longer trust the Republican Party and approach each election willing to go either way depending on how much sense the candidate makes and how married they are to Trumpism.

How would you classify yourself politically? And how long have you held those particular beliefs?

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SomePaddy t1_italtmq wrote

Get out and vote. We can figure out what it all means after all the votes are counted. The polls and media narratives are all over the place. I agree that the notion that Oz has closed the gap is bonkers, but as George Carlin said "think of how dumb the average person is, and remember that half of them are dumber than that".

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IAmMostDope92 t1_itatpcl wrote

I can’t wait to vote blue in 22! 🇺🇸

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Dramatic_Arm_7477 t1_itaxqns wrote

I've been independent all of my voting life.

The past few years of watching and living in this political climate is absolutely fucking disgusting.

The thing that really makes me want to choose a candidate as of right now is very clear.

If anyone runs on a "The Election was Rigged" or represents any part of that platform, they can go fuck themselves.

Not that it's actually going to happen, but I'd love to see justice done properly to anyone who stood in the way of the democracy we all share.

My family on my mother's side, has been fighting for this country since the Revolution. I have family burried at Bowman's Tower in Bucks Country, Pa. A General. My Great Grandfather times 3 generations back. A General in fact.

So kindly fuck off if you truly do not see how the cult of personality is using you as a prop to keep " the stolen election" alive.

I'd love to see any part of Trump's family even put on any sort of uniform, let alone think about giving up their lives to defend this country they are making a mockery of.

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emet18 t1_itb289n wrote

Yeah pretty crazy except for that time Democratic governors like Tom Wolf and Gavin Newsom literally shut down churches during (and after) COVID

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timesyours t1_itb9lel wrote

They didn’t look stupid in 2016. They gave Trump a better chance than almost any outlet. It was 29% by the end. Things with 29% probability happen all the time.

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H0FG t1_itbj3ks wrote

Every republican and democrat I know will vote for whoever is running in their party. You seem to be a Democrat. Have you ever voted republican?

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Nemacolin t1_itbjjby wrote

The headline is from Salon in August. Things have changed since then. Or maybe not. We will see.

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orangesfwr t1_itbksei wrote

I'm happy for that, but there (unfortunately) is a considerable amount of "both sides" independents that don't pay nearly enough attention, think everything done by anyone in politics is purely political (including the Jan 6th committee), and that voting for one party only means you are "part of the problem". Oz's recent ads where he talks about "extremism on both sides" and "wanting to make people's lives better", as full of complete and utter shit as these ads are, will win some votes from those Independents.

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HeyZuesHChrist t1_itbnmug wrote

Because Trump is such a simpleton it’s so goddamn simple to get an endorsement out of him. Say nice things about him and it doesn’t matter how you terrible of a candidate you are he will endorse you. That’s all his tiny brain cares about.

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goplantagarden t1_itbohcv wrote

Do not let polls stop you from voting. They can be wrong or manipulated to affect voter turnout.

Everyone should vote.

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pittbiomed t1_itbolcu wrote

It’s propaganda that both sides use. They throw out bullshit like this and hope it sticks in their supporters minds and that they take it as a fact. This is standard on both sides.

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215-610-484Replayer t1_itbupnq wrote

Lie gets halfway around the world before the truth can tie it's shoes.

Once you establish a bullshit narrative with a ton of dark money and outside spending groups, it's difficult to tell folks that everything they have been hearing that aligns with their established bias is a lie.

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IamSauerKraut t1_itbwh0e wrote

the "(and after) COVID has not yet arrived.

Shutting down public gathering places was the right thing to do during the early days of the pandemic. With increasing amounts of folks vaxx'ed and folks having been exposed, there no longer exist any shutdowns. We may have lost fewer parents and other relatives had certain elected officials not been such petulant children during the height of the health crisis.

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wagsman t1_itbwlue wrote

These types of headlines are designed to make potential Democratic voters think the election is a foregone conclusion, and if it is, they are less likely to make it a priority to vote.

Less turnout benefits republicans.

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wagsman t1_itbwvqe wrote

You vote for whoever you believe has the best ideas/policies to move the country/state in a better direction. That means you have to look into all the candidates.

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IamSauerKraut t1_itbwwes wrote

People are going to be who they are going to be, especially if they have been indoctrinated all their lives in a christo-fascist setting. There just needs to be more of willing to be "normies" than there are of them.

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IamSauerKraut t1_itbx24z wrote

Seems you do not really "need to know who to vote for." You just want to stir the pot with your "but they are both rich folks" bullshit.

Ooze was born with a gold shovel up his backside. Are you voting for him?

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IamSauerKraut t1_itbxci7 wrote

The swing voters have been far right for many years. They claim to be independents who do not know who they will vote for until they enter the voting booth, but they lie. Trust me, they lie. Every. fn. Time.

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IamSauerKraut t1_itbyiid wrote

What of it?

MastriaNO spent 20 years in the US Army. Look at him now.

Perry was a PA Army National Guard general. A fn general. Who engaged in sedition while an elected member of Congress.

Timothy McVeigh was a decorated US Army veteran. Look at him now. Oh. Right.

Ooze took an oath to Turkey. Fetterman did not.

On loyalty alone, I'd vote Fetterman. But there is also Ooze's thing with the animal abuse, the snake oil stuff, the gold shovel up his arse, and the simple fact that he is not a PA resident. Ooze is a jerseyite by way of Delaware and Ohio. Oh-fn-hio. Fetterman all the way.

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pedantic_comments t1_itbyjlk wrote

Alcoholic cancer patient votes for leopards to eat her face?

It’s tough for me to imagine what motivates people as ignorant as this, but it’s comforting to know that if you get your way, you people fuck yourselves over the hardest.

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tabshiftescape t1_itc0fw6 wrote

In most areas of my life, I try to take the approach of “unless you know a better way.” Critical accusations and suggestions of caution have a place, but should be stated with evidence.

We have as much reason to treat your cautioning with caution as we do the link I originally posted.

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Dry_Presence7112 t1_itc1203 wrote

I was just commenting that you are making reference to oz's service. I never commented on who to vote for or any other thing. Just said be careful what issue you choose to argue. Also with that crazy rant for no reason I don't think you're helping anyone's cause. As an independent, I'd definitely walk away from your rant. Thanks

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IamSauerKraut t1_itc1uv3 wrote

You can walk freely where ever and however you wish. As an American, I will not stop you.

As to Ooze, as someone born in Cleveland (looks at map; yep, still located in the US of A) and raised in Delaware, why did he serve in the army of a foreign nation but not in the army of the country of his birth? Where do his loyalties truly rest? Whether Fetterman did or did not serve in the US military is irrelevant to the question.

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kormer t1_itc20mm wrote

You sound like the guy who couldn't stop talking about how Barrack HUSSEIN Obummer was a secret Muslim and was going to bring sharia law to the US.

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IamSauerKraut t1_itc2b7f wrote

Nate Silver has been so wrong so often for so long that I do not consider him a credible predictor of future events. That he is an aggregator or claims to use "math" is meaningless. Indeed, in the Perry-Daniels race for Congress, he has Daniels up by 3%. Which makes "unless you know a better way" equally meaningless in this context.

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pittbiomed t1_itc33rr wrote

Well, it’s true so there is that . In this case it’s the Dems doing it . Just wait, the knuckle dragger right will counter with something even more ridiculous

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pittbiomed t1_itc3c62 wrote

I know who I am voting for and you realize that fettemen went to Ivy League schools for his education . Can you afford those schools? I know I couldn’t so maybe you are born with a silver spoon as well?

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Murderers_Row_Boat t1_itc45dq wrote

If they are running the dog killer ads with 2+ weeks to go then the numbers aren't trending well for Fetterman. Should have ran those ads during the summer.

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IamSauerKraut t1_itc7a3h wrote

Ooze "went to Ivy League schools" for his educations.

He got into Harvard because his world-famous doctor daddy paid for him to get in. Lived in Lowell House as an undergrad. Heard he was unhappy he did not gain entrance into preppy Kirkland or Winthrop-by-the-river. Used his daddy's connections to get into med school, too.

Fetterman did his undergrad at a school local to where he was born: Albright. Then went to UConn (not an Ivy League school) for an MBA. Was able to get into the Public Policy program at the K-School at Harvard on merit. His road in public service lead him to Pittsburgh and then to Braddock. He chose to leave a well-paying job to enter public service with AmeriCorps. We know the rest from there.

So.

Who is the Ivy Leaguer with the gold shovel stuck up his arse? Not John Fettterman.

Fetterman says he grew up in a privileged environment (whatever that means for York County) while Ooze remains silent about his gold shovel upbringing. Not a peep about attending high school at the wealthy private Tower Hill School. Why is that?

Your attempt to pivot the topic to me is cute, but, no, I did not go to college at an Ivy League school. Spent many years as a youth shoveling barn manure. And what Ooze presents smells quite a bit like that.

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misomiso82 t1_itc87i1 wrote

I thought the polls were very tight in Penn? Even that Dr Oz was now looking like he was ahead? ty

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IamSauerKraut t1_itc8947 wrote

It's cute how you appear and re-appear under so many names while always posting the same crap.

Fetterman gave some recent interviews. You can probably find them on youtube. He is clearly understandable. More coherent than even you.

As for who is the "spoiled rich kid," Fetterman went to Albright while Ooze went to ... Harvard using daddy's connections. After attending a wealthy private high school in Delaware. Too rich for public school, amirite?

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ftsk4201 t1_itcb94f wrote

Show me where I appear under different names oh wise one. I’ll wait. Fetterneck went to Harvard lived off his parents money till he was almost 50. You know nothing about your own candidate lmfao it’s priceless really. Dr family was immigrants who made it. I thought you guys lived immigrant success stories. Keep lying to yourself it’s hysterical at this point. The man needs closed captioning to do a simple interview. I see you ignored how he held an innocent black man at gun point though 😂 you’re a tool

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IamSauerKraut t1_itceyd1 wrote

Fetterman did his undergrad work at Albright. That's near Reading. The city in which he was born. His MBA is from UConn. Not an Ivy League School, either.

But Ooze used his daddy's connections to get into Harvard. And used daddy's connections to get into UPenn Med. Daddy paid cash for the tuition.

Ooze's daddy was no regular immigrant. Came in on a special visa given to folks with connections. Landed a high-salary job right away. No picking tomatoes on a farm for him. None of the "made it" except, as Ooze will do, took the money and ran back to Turkey. Some immigrant, indeed.

Do we know the "innocent" man was indeed innocent? Innocent of what? You do not even know. You just post the same old crap, delete it when challenged with facts, and then return under a different moniker to post the same old crap. Rinse and repeat. But, unlike your user name, the basic facts do not change.

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bontakun82 t1_itcjs3a wrote

So Republicans, are you now going to skip voting because your king god spraytan mctinyhands said oz is bad?

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or10n_sharkfin t1_itcmgb2 wrote

I don't understand how people who support Trump don't realize by now that literally everything the man touches corrodes and dies a whimpering death.

I guess sunk cost fallacy is very real.

By the way, get out and vote when elections come around.

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Angry_ClitSpasm350 t1_itcqgax wrote

>wtf happened to Republicans.

Fox News. That's what happened. Fox became the most watched program on cable tv in the US and is played on every govt installation so millions can be brainwashed

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drewbaccaAWD t1_itd0wly wrote

Get to know more people. I'm a registered Democrat (now) and may never vote for another Republican if they continue on this Trumpist path where their platform is just trolling and praising dictators.

Voted for an R as recently as 2016 although that was the last one; voted for several before that. I'm a moderate, six year Navy veteran, and totally done with what the GOP has turned into.

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drewbaccaAWD t1_itd2o7a wrote

It was a pretty straight forward choice for me, as I disliked Oz even before he decided to run. McCormick, I would have actually given an open mind and the possibility of winning me over. I would have preferred Lamb over Fetterman.

A decade ago I would have called myself a swing voter (I've voted for R's in the past) but I find that increasingly hard at this point in history. I'm not on the left "the right was always bad" lines of thinking but at this point I don't think there's much of a middle remaining. You either side with the party falsely claiming "it was rigged" or you do whatever it takes to push the fanatics back into obscurity.

The fact that Trump is still the favorite for 2024 after everything while the Dems pushed Biden over someone like Bernie clearly shows the difference between the two parties at this time and place. Anyone endorsed by Trump should automatically be written off.

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ftsk4201 t1_itdeq7k wrote

He went to Harvard to look it up. He grew up rich lived off mommy and daddy till he was almost 50 never worked a real job much like Bernie sanders who fetterneck loves. I post the same crap and delete it? You have me confused there turnip but again prove I do that. You can’t you’re just speaking out your ass at this point.

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RUIN_NATION_ t1_itdtmhd wrote

I dunno man every thing was booming under trump gas low food costs low exporting goods to the world. I made 2.00 less a hour then I do know but I had more money in my pocket under trump then I do biden thats not a lie those are facts. I got a new job at the plant and it wasnt cause of biden it was cause my hard work over 2 years is what got me this pay increase and job change.

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RUIN_NATION_ t1_itdtv2y wrote

they are and today some polls show oz up now this is just a very left leaning sub that likes to push things so people see it the way they want. i dunno whos gonna win but its much closer then people want.

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joefred111 t1_itebqzw wrote

>He grew up rich lived off mommy and daddy till he was almost 50 never worked a real job much like Bernie sanders Trump, Oz, Mastriano, deSantis, and just about every politician today.

Fixed it for ya.

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or10n_sharkfin t1_itecry5 wrote

This is implying that the President has a direct effect on the economy when it's a multitude of different things.

A lot of the growth we saw in Trump's first two years were more due to policies that were put in place during Obama's administration. He had the chance to build up from that, but instead he went ahead and cut taxes for the wealthy (with the Republican party insisting that this is a good thing). More socialist subsidies to farmers in order to keep our domestic production going. The stock market fluctuated more during his four years than they have so far by Biden's second year.

That's not even to mention the global fuck-up that was 2020's pandemic.

Some of what we're facing today is the direct result of economic tariffs and bogus "trade wars" with other countries that Trump was playing through his four years. But that's only a small part of it.

No, if prices are rising, it's due in no small part to corporate greed. Gas and oil companies could have kept their prices low, but they spent decades and hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars on our government to not put in caps to how much gas can be charged. They're seeing record profits with the prices as high as they are, and yet the common folk are struggling to pay the higher gas prices. Biden's fault? Food processing companies are raising prices even though wages are not going up. In general, you're seeing higher prices because people are seeing dollar signs in raising prices. Biden's fault?

No, capitalism. Through and through.

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ftsk4201 t1_itee6eg wrote

It doesn’t change the fact that fetterneck isn’t suitable for the job. Funny not one person who commented said anything about him holding someone at gun point 🤯 big deal don’t you think? He vandalized a black owned business. If he was republican he’d be all over the news as a racist nazi terrorist

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RUIN_NATION_ t1_iteeuk0 wrote

The President effects the economy through the policies they choose to do or not do. reason gas prices were so low under trump he opened up more drilling in the usa got less oil from over seas thus OPEC LOWERED PRICES less demand thus our oil in our country fell in prices its economics 101 supply demand. lower oil prices reflect in lower gas prices reflect in lower prices for goods cause shipping costs are lower. Bidens first week in office canned the pipeline so that stoked fears his camping was on pushing oil out fracking drilling processing thus fear in the market we started producing less asking OPEC FOR MORE. in return prices went up.

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AlanParsonsProject11 t1_iteg3gd wrote

538 had trumps chances rise close to the election because the polls showed it as well

I don’t understand how posters don’t remember Hillary’s polling drop in the aftermath of the fbi “reopening” the investigation

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BuddyBroDudeMan t1_itgjyq7 wrote

Oz is actually polling almost even in the latest polls

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ChrissyLove13 t1_itjbobx wrote

What a loser. Scrolling through a stranger's post history and using what you find in an attempt to make a dig at me? All because I align myself with the party you hate? Whatever happened to 'hate has no home here' or 'vote blue no matter who'. Hypocrite. Oh and also a scumbag piece of shit. You truly have evil inside of you. Sick fuck.

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ChrissyLove13 t1_itjrmmt wrote

Who said I was upset? You may like to think I am but no, not the case at all. I say it like it is. Like the fact that you are an extremely mentally unstable individual and I'm guessing a threat to society. Oh and uh....I'm pretty sure someone who would make fun of a stranger that battled addiction and cancer should maybe think twice before warning others that 'we tend to fuck ourselves over'. Probably wasn't too wise on your part there, buddy. How does it feel being such a low life? The lowest of the low? Actually lower than low? Must suck to be in your head, fucking loser.

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