and_another_username t1_iujmfq8 wrote on October 31, 2022 at 8:44 PM

Wow. Fact check: “false”.

They DID send 255k ballots to unverified voters. But they say they will totally “verify later”. And that they “totally don’t count ballots before voter verified. Bc trust us”

How can u send a ballot before verified at all?! How is this the procedure ? That’s fucked If a voter’s identification can’t be verified at the time they apply for a ballot, state law does require that the voter still be issued a ballot and be provided an opportunity until the sixth day after the election to provide the proper proof of identification. But counties are not to count the ballot unless the voter provides proof of identification.

This is some shady shit. You should absolutely not get a ballot until verified. And give up to 6 days AFTER election? Smells like bullsht Why is PA always with the worst ballot procedure?

krabstarr OP t1_iujrlwb wrote on October 31, 2022 at 9:21 PM

You have no idea what you're talking about.

The "Not Verified" status refers to how the ballot application initially arrived to the county elections office. They can arrive pre-verifed if the application is submitted online with a driver's license which matches with PennDOT records. The online ballot applications which are designated as "Not Verified" are ones where the voter provided only Social Security Number, ones provided a driver's license number which didn't match PennDOT records, ones which provided non-matching PennDOT numbers and a Social Security Number, and ones where the voter didn't provide either. Ones where an SSN is provided are submitted to the HAVA interface to check against Social Security records even before a ballot can be sent to a voter. The majority of the "255k" ballot applications which were designated as "not verified" get verified this way before a ballot can even go out the door to the voter.

The applications remain coded as their original code (Onlinr Mail-In Not Verified, for example) because that's how it originally arrived. It is not an indication of the current verification status of the voter's ballot application nor an indication of the verification status of the ballot application when the ballot was sent.

So no. They DID NOT send 255k ballots to unverified voters.

and_another_username t1_iujs9os wrote on October 31, 2022 at 9:25 PM

Yea I read it too.

Except that they did get sent out.

The Ballots were sent out. To people who were still yet to be confirmed as verified in the system. You can spin it different ways if ya want. But this is factual.

They even specify if they receive the returned filled out ballot before verified that they won’t count it. And give them up to 6 days after the election

krabstarr OP t1_iujtu6u wrote on October 31, 2022 at 9:37 PM

Did you not read a single thing I wrote about how the Social Security numbers are verified BEFORE ballots get sent? THIS is factual. Yes, ballots do get sent out to the minority of voters who didn't provide verifiable driver's license or social security number, but that's not what I'm refuting. I'm refuting the fact that ballots were sent to 255k voters who still did not have verified ID at the time the ballots were sent. It would have been a far lower number due to the fact that the Social Security Numbers are sent for verification prior to ballots being sent, but after the application was received in the "not verified" designation.