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ScrappleOnToast t1_ixueovk wrote

Reply to comment by Kabloosh75 in 16-year-old girl injured in Southwest Philadelphia shooting, police say by CompletePen8

Nope. New Orleans isn’t driving the murder rate in Louisiana. Similarly, crime and murder rates in PA aren’t led by Philly. “….. even if New Orleans were removed from Louisiana’s count, the state would have recorded the nation’s highest or second-highest murder rate in 12 of the last 15 years.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/15/upshot/why-does-louisiana-consistently-lead-the-nation-in-murders.html

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Kabloosh75 t1_ixul26i wrote

Since you like to provide articles with a pay wall I'll provide this as a reference instead.

The link I provided goes into detail of how rates can be inflated due to areas like retail shops being as areas with increased violence as well as parks.

Rates can be misleading when you got 1 crime happening in a town of 100 versus 1000 crimes happening in a city with 1 million people.

Especially since even my link only breaks it down to county. There could be literally a 100k in one of these counties where 99% of the town is completely fine but half of all the crime happens in that county could be happening in a small section of town.

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ScrappleOnToast t1_ixundx4 wrote

Are you telling me that here in 2022, you don’t know any workarounds for paywalls? FFS, I’m in my 60s and I can figure it out. Read the article, and stop moving the goal posts. You said that Louisiana’s high murder rate was tilted by New Orleans. It’s not. It has nothing to do with skewed stats and outliers.

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YamPsychological9471 t1_ixupkxy wrote

I don’t understand your logic. The example you provide between a population of 100 with 1 crime vs. a population of 1million with 1000 crimes shows that the smaller population has 10x the crime rate.

You are statistically more likely to be a victim of crime where the crime rate is 1% vs .1%. Just because the absolute numbers are bigger doesn’t make them scarier. It shows there’s something different between the populations causing the difference in the rates.

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Kabloosh75 t1_ixupp5d wrote

If we focus on crime rate only would you invest more resources to stop that 1 crime or would you invest the resources to stop the 1000 crimes?

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YamPsychological9471 t1_ixur2oa wrote

Are you asking me what I would personally do? That sounds like a false dichotomy.

Or are you asking in what scenario more resources would be used to address the crime? It’d be absolutely more resources to stop the 1000 crimes, but relatively more resources to stop the 1 crime (per capita).

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