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cpr4life8 OP t1_j2i7rrr wrote

The suspect in the killings of four University of Idaho students last month had been known to some employees at a Pennsylvania brewery to make "creepy" and inappropriate comments, the business owner said.

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Allemaengel t1_j2i9du2 wrote

I'm not surprised given his one Reddit post.

Strangely, though he was from my part of Monroe County (township next door to mine in the same school district) and that I know people who went to high school and community college with him plus who lived in the Indian Mountain Lake development with him, yet absolutely no one seems to have known him.

Starting to sound like a creepy, fairly-educated loner.

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donnyburgher t1_j2iau6q wrote

I graduated from PV in 2014 (one year below Kohberger) and you’re right, it’s crazy the amount of people that knew of him but never really interacted with. Part of that is bc he went to vo-tech and wasn’t really around the rest of the school population, but also because he was just a loner

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lehigh_larry t1_j2iavh5 wrote

I know Jordan Serulneck, and drink at Seven Sirens often. Weird seeing him quoted like this.

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Unique-Public-8594 t1_j2ic3ot wrote

Is it surprising he was a loner? Isn’t that very consistent?

Maybe loners need more help than we realize. Maybe isolating needs to be seen as much of a red flag as acting up.

I’m curious if his family saw him as troubled and tried to get him help. Was it something they didn’t notice or was it more like watching a train wreck in slo mo?

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dixiech1ck t1_j2id4b5 wrote

The suspect was shocked to be approached by Jordan about his previous behavior. Now he's shocked to be the suspect even though there was DNA matches at the house the night of the murder.

Seems like this guy has some kind of bi-polar situation going on.

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noobiescooby2000 t1_j2iizxb wrote

I've read somewhere else that he asked one of the girls out was turned down. Seems like the dude couldn't handle rejection

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cpr4life8 OP t1_j2ix4va wrote

I actually think it's a pretty good idea and I wish it was something we had back in the days when I was tending bar but there was no such technology at that time. A good way to communicate to staff who to keep an eye on based on previous behaviors - or tip them someone who's no longer permitted to be in the establishment.

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downonthesecond t1_j2iy6fa wrote

Even in countries with accessible care I've heard people claim there is still a stigma towards mental illness so people and families will avoid help. Those comments usually come up after a mentally ill person attacks others.

Maybe NYC has the right idea forcing people into treatment.

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cpr4life8 OP t1_j2j051m wrote

"In the bar's system, staff had added notes that would pop up when his ID was scanned"

When a person's ID is scanned their "private" information shows up. All these employees are doing is adding things in a notes field like "this person is trouble" or "they're no longer allowed in here" or whatever. I don't see a problem with that and apparently neither does the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

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PsychologicalPaige99 t1_j2jbgu9 wrote

I don't necessarily disagree, but if he was a self isolating loner what makes you think he would actually help himself and invest in his mental health? We could have all the acceptance and mental health access in the world but you can't force someone to help themselves

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Ct-5736-Bladez t1_j2jk7u9 wrote

The post itself seem harmless enough as it looks like just a typical college level criminal justice project on the surface but diving into the rabbit hole of people who knew him a who went to reddit to discus what they knew of him; yeah it seems like he has issues. That coupled with what he wrote raises red flags

Thank you for sharing the link op

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mmortal03 t1_j2jy3wv wrote

>Is it surprising he was a loner? Isn’t that very consistent?

Criminology experts should jump in here, but I don't think introversion is a good predictor of violent criminals. I don't know if people with "creepy" personalities are more likely to become loners, but I suspect it's more complicated than that:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/quiet-the-power-introverts/201105/the-myth-the-killer-introvert

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Zenith2017 t1_j2y1tsh wrote

You can't force anyone to help themselves, but it's also true that eliminating barriers to access improves the chance of people helping themselves in the first place. I know I'd engage with mental healthcare more if it was more accessible, and I've already been in therapy and psychiatry for years.

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