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fenuxjde t1_j2swbyj wrote

Hasn't ignoring the will of the voters been the GOP playbook for like 70 years now?

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boundfortrees OP t1_j2sxc2j wrote

You can reach out to Minority Leader Bryan Cutler here: repcutler.com/contact

Tell him he must respect the will of Pennsylvania voters!

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Donotaskmedontellme t1_j2t1950 wrote

I mean, they're appealing to THEIR voters. That's what politicians do.

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ThrowawayPhucough t1_j2t2ugo wrote

‘Now, state House Republicans are trying to delay the special elections, vote themselves into leadership positions, and delay the transfer of power as long as they can. Why?’

Short answer: Because that’s what they do.

Does no one understand how hard it is to line your pockets if you have to focus on other people? /s

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Donotaskmedontellme t1_j2t9pki wrote

I would vote for Democrats if they stopped supporting gun control and AWBs is all. Plus the excessive taxes are pretty awful, and they could be tougher on crime. I really don't like voting Republican but I ain't pinning my mags to 10 rounds.

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discogeek t1_j2tc8wr wrote

Yup, all those southern Democrats abandoned the party and swapped to GOP because of these bills, as seen by the plummeting number of Democrats that hated these bills and the constant rise of Republican opposition.

Not sure what your point is here, you're highlighting that the evolution of partisan racism in America was fueled with a mass exodus of anti-rights politicians from D to R.

But you be you and keep living in one snapshot of the past.

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Donotaskmedontellme t1_j2tcnih wrote

You do realize almost every 9mm handgun holds more than 10 rounds right? Mine is a compact and it shipped with 13 round mags, but the 15s are the same size.

As for my AR15, it's just about bare minimum for home defense. A rifle is always better for aiming, and shotguns are awful for multiple intruder scenarios

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Alternative-Flan2869 t1_j2tcvoj wrote

Cheaters gonna cheat. The gqp is a cult of backhanded schemers who do not give a shit about the voting citizens who need effective government.

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defusted t1_j2td48k wrote

Why is it that every time the civil rights movement comes up there is always some asshole who conveniently forgets the pivot of the two parties in 1964. The Democrats who opposed the civil rights movement of the 60s are the current Republican party. You assholes aren't the party of Lincoln, you're the party of trump. Stop trying to tell people the Democrats are the real racists when it's the GOP that gets the support of the KKK and other domestic terrorists groups.

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Donotaskmedontellme t1_j2tdlgg wrote

I did not choose to understand what is necessary to defend oneself against any and all threats, nor the necessity to preserve the rights of the individual, just as I did not choose to be attracted to males, females, and everyone inbetween.

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discogeek t1_j2tdv8r wrote

And they're still Democrats? C'mon, quit being a troll making up arguments that don't hold water. You and I and everyone in the world all know your argument is fake, referencing one year ignores the political movement of southern realignment completely.

I'd expect better intellectual discourse from someone who wants to discuss politics, but I guess it's pretty clear you're not here to discuss, just to own the libs.

You be you.

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woodcuttersDaughter t1_j2tef2q wrote

It never occurs to them that they could have power if they supported policies that supported and were popular among their constituents. No, they insist on being anti-democratic, fascist nut jobs.

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hvacthrowaway223 t1_j2th89l wrote

Last I looked at this, though, they are just following the rules. There are no “parties” recognized, it’s just who gets the most votes. If the republicans can get enough votes, then they get their person in. Until the full chamber is seated and then it goes back again. There is no “will of the voters”, just votes.

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tyrael459 t1_j2tibvg wrote

But the take away is: What the fuck is your point? I wasn’t a democrat back then. I wasn’t even alive back then. Why the fuck does it matter what democrats voted for in the 40s in terms of what the parties stand for today aside from academic trivia? It’s clearly not what democrats stand for today.

I sure hope you’re not someone who gets their knickers in a twist when stuff like reparations and history lessons about slavery making people “feel bad” hit the headlines, because you’re essentially advocating for people today being tied to what people 80 years ago did as a fucked-up “gotcha” piece of garbage.

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PatientNice t1_j2tj2hg wrote

This will be resolved eventually. We need to vote more Democrats in so there can never be a stupid ploy like this.

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ryeley323 t1_j2tkipi wrote

Relax. Reading up on the southern strategy now. Sounds eerily familiar to what's happening today. Sounds like history is repeating itself. Looks like your knickers are twisted.

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Nipplehau t1_j2tlcr5 wrote

I'm generally I'm favor of some forms of firearm regulation.

People on the left need to stop calling standard ARs powerful guns. They're easy and comfortable to shoot. They're highly customizable. They are the same form factor and fire the same rounds as a standard military select fire weapon. But they're not 'powerful' guns relative to most of the things an average gun owner may own. The round a standard AR shoots is just barely legal for deer hunting in most states based on size.

The bullet a standard AR shoots carries almost half the energy that a normal hunting round carries.

Edit: And to actually answer your question about in what scenario I felt like I wanted one, I bought one specifically for pig hunting in the southern US. It's simply one of the best options for that. I haven't had one charge me yet, but I don't want to be fumbling with a bolt or a more cumbersome gun if one ever does. There are a lot of other very similar options that most people wouldn't associate with the military that I could have gotten, but the AR is widely available and can be relatively inexpensive.

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tehroz t1_j2tlftr wrote

I love that ya'll think there's a difference between Democrats and Republicans.

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rjb5065 t1_j2trc7u wrote

You mean like Tom Wolfe did during covid?

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--Cr1imsoN-- t1_j2trvnw wrote

You're just going to blantantly ignore the party switch and Southern strategy aint cha...

I'll tell you one thing. It's not the Democrats waving Confederate flags.... Lincoln would be ashamed of what the GOP has turned into.

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tyrael459 t1_j2tt32l wrote

Alright, first comment, let’s see… other dude said GOP has ignored the will of the voters for 70 years. You chime in that the democrats voted against Civil Rights back in the 50s and 60s.

Again, so the fuck what? What the actual fuck does that have to do with anything the Democrats are doing right now? The other guy’s comment had a clear through line between history and contemporary GOP voting patterns, while your comment is a petulant “but all these mostly dead dudes from the Democrat party of 70 years ago made these terrible votes.”

You have a bad day and just need to blow off steam or something? There’s no fucking point other “I know you are but what am I,” with the ridiculous topping of using examples from 70 fucking years ago.

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discogeek t1_j2tv2fo wrote

Honestly, it's a fascinating topic and I'm happy to answer any questions you'd have - Wikipedia has some basic info. I've debated doing a YouTube channel with stuff like this for years too but I'm no good at video editing.

The paper compared the 1934 / 1964 / 1994 elections and analyzed them as realignment years. (My conclusion was these were massive "wave" elections like 2010 and 2018 but realignments are generational and not able to pinpoint to one specific event.)

I'm happy to discuss the academics behind it with you or anyone interested. Don't ask me to dig up the old statistical regressions or plot charts though, I'd have to go to the attic to find the original paper.

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ryeley323 t1_j2txm64 wrote

Na, not gonna waste time on you. Anyone who has to use Fuck two dozen times in two posts probably doesn't have any insight on yhe subject anyways. You're a loser who plays WoW. That's all I need to know.

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ryeley323 t1_j2u2dzq wrote

No worries. I swear too but I really have no feelings. I'll help anyone who's willing to help themselves. That's why I'm reading up on Southern strategy and even a fellow redditor is sending me a comprehensive paper they wrote on the subject in college. I'm not anti Democrat or even pro republican. Frankly both parties suck. All good man. Sleep well!

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discogeek t1_j2u5mgt wrote

No worries at all. I don't hide it, I'm a Democrat and very politically active. Husband is a big MAGA Trump Republican, so I don't put political positions and good social interaction on the same side of the equation.

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ryeley323 t1_j2u76v6 wrote

That's awesome especially in today's world. I'm personally an independent that leans conservative but will always give a hand to those in need. We're all human and having different opinions makes us who we are. The world would be boring if we all had the same views. My apologies if I came off hostel earlier. I am just a big teddy bear in real life.

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M2hBDf1Nhw1VB7 t1_j2u7rqf wrote

It’s the most popular home defense gun. Break ins occur with groups of intruders these days. A rifle evens those odds. There are more AR-15s than F-150s in America. The F-150 is the most popular selling vehicle in this country and must be registered. An AR-15 in most states doesn’t need registration so there are even more than we know about.

I keep an AR-15 in a safe in my bedroom. Considering a break in occurs while sleeping, being tired vs wide awake attackers, the 30 round standard magazine and the low recoil of the smaller 5.56 round leaving a 16” barrel means I have the advantage. Why do I need this over other options? It’s my fucking home. If someone comes here to do harm to me or my family, I want every advantage over them. I don’t want a fair fight. I want to win. (Obviously I’d prefer no fight and no break in)

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ryeley323 t1_j2u7z1n wrote

Who's rights are being violated? Never said I don't like politics. Just feel there's a better place to discuss them than this sub. Such as...... You guessed it. r/pennsylvaniapolitics

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discogeek t1_j2u8nme wrote

It's Reddit and easy to feel like you're going overboard sometimes. I'm sure if I ever had the privilege of meeting you and yours in person I'd be buying the first round of beers.

Bet you and the husband would have a long discussion about hunting.

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CraWLee t1_j2ufhur wrote

Shocker. Common wealth means nothing anymore unless it benefits the elites.

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CraWLee t1_j2ugdzi wrote

Fun fact, republican and democratic parties flip flop all the time, they've done so over 5 or 6 times since the inception of USA. In case you don't know what I'm talking about... Republicans use to be far left and democrats were far right, over and over again over the last couple centuries+...

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colnelburton t1_j2ulimz wrote

A quick lookup (article VI, Sectional 628) has me thinking that the next set of elections (primary, municipal, or general) will have to include the special elections, right? But that assumes that the presiding officer of the legislative branch filed the appropriate writs. Do we know if that happened? Last, and not least, there's a clause that says under certain conditions the presiding officer can just choose to not hold the special election if they deem it not in the public interest. Is that what's at stake here - republicans claiming legislation leadership and just cancelling the special elections entirely?

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IrrumaboMalum t1_j2uuq08 wrote

This is exactly why we need to change the rules to state that a person cannot run for two offices at the same time. If you are a State Representative and you want to run for Congress, then you run for Congress. That way another person can run for your now-vacant State Representative position and we won't see situations like this happen again.

Are the Republicans playing dirty? Yes.

But ultimately this is the fault of Summer Lee for running for PA House and the House of Representatives in the same election. She created the situation herself. If Summer Lee and Austin Davis had only run for higher office (Congress and Lt. Gov) and allowed others to run for their state-level offices, Democrats would control the State House and this wouldn't be an issue.

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Lunamothknits t1_j2v2vlr wrote

Y’all are exactly why reform needs to happen. I would bet my entire house on you never training with that weapon for close quarters. Because you’d know better. But be a fud, I’m sure it’ll go just fine.

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buglossbugwon t1_j2vc0r1 wrote

The House Republicans did win the statewide popular vote, though

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tehroz t1_j2vc50m wrote

I’d be more than happy to discuss further, without snark or sarcasm, if that’s possible.

While the parties differ, the people do not. They’re all power hungry, greedy, and self centered.

Prove me wrong.

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TwitterTapeParade t1_j2wat79 wrote

You are using that word wrong. nihilists are people that believe in no moral truths and that defines those of no faith. Those who believe in evolution, natural selection, and that children should be taught to think they can be any gender they want with puberty blockers and life destroying surgeries. That is the new Democrat party.

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crispydukes t1_j2wg7rb wrote

>If you are trying to say that the R’s are the current party of progress you are sadly blinded by something.

This right here. Look at the political party that currently aligns with the KKK, Neo-nazis, confederate apologists, covert racists, fascists, authoritarians, etc. Spoiler alert: it's the Republican party.

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I_am_Daesomst t1_j2wkjoy wrote

Do you have a source? The guy that was eating a homeless guy's face in Florida 10 years ago was brought down by 4 shots, but you may be referring to a different attack.

Either way, I'm less than concerned about it. I'm a Capricorn, but I have faith in Taurus.

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Prestigious-Buy1774 t1_j2wzn08 wrote

Pretty much has all the facts right.... But what exactly is wrong with letting the voters decide on amendments?? It's not the will of the General Assembly then, It is the will of the majority of voters in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

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artificialavocado t1_j2x01un wrote

Dude this is the stupidest talking point. Starting in the early 20th century, there was a complete party re-alignment. In Lincoln’s time, the Republican Party was the “left” party and the Democrats were the “right” party. Literally anyone who’s “checked the facts” should know this. It’s not even controversial.

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pocketbookashtray t1_j2x7r1t wrote

Hilarious headline. The real headline should be “crybaby Democrats again want to change the rules when they don’t win”.

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pocketbookashtray t1_j2xbd95 wrote

Democrats “these elections haven’t happened yet, but we’re sure we’ll win them”.

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themollusk t1_j2xik9u wrote

I already contacted my freshman rep (Republican) to push this same thing... Fix PA election law to disallow running for multiple seats in the same cycle.

Maybe since the Rs are getting more burnt than the Ds with this, they'll actually try to make headway on it? 🤞

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themollusk t1_j2y28rd wrote

>But what exactly is wrong with letting the voters decide on amendments??

In theory and on paper? Nothing.

The issue is with how it's implemented and the threshold for passing. The US Constitution takes 2/3 of the House and Senate, and then 3/4 of the states to agree to it before an amendment goes through. In PA all it takes is 50% + 1 at every step of the process. The state GOP had been abusing the process in order to pass unpopular legislation that they wouldn't be able to muster enough votes to override a D governor's veto. For something as serious as amending the construction, a larger consensus should be made, not a skin of the teeth majority.

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