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DrInsomnia t1_ja4ifqr wrote
Reply to comment by lightknight7777 in For birds all sex is anal sex. by Whats-Upvote
There's a distinct term for it because it serves more than one function. But it developmentally starts as the anal opening, and continues to serve as the anus in an adult. This is really all semantics, but from a developmental biology standpoint it is an anus that has acquired other functionality.
Edit to add, from the Wiki link: "In deuterostomes, the original dent becomes the anus, while the gut eventually tunnels through the embryo until it reaches the other side, forming an opening that becomes the mouth."
Vertebrates are deuterostomes. In bird development, that original "anus" becomes the cloaca.
lightknight7777 t1_ja4iida wrote
That doesn't make it an anus. It's not.
Semantics is what words mean. Of course it's semantics.
DrInsomnia t1_ja4j8ck wrote
Yes. And a cloaca is an anus that has taken on additional functionality in some groups. In fact, in mammals the original mammalian ancestor likely had a cloaca, which split into separate openings (in some derived groups). But embryologically it all starts with the anus.
DrInsomnia t1_ja4jodn wrote
I should add that mammals are the outlier here, having subdivided these tasks into separate orifices. Most vertebrates have a single opening, derived from embryological anal opening, which does it all.
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