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ThenaJuno t1_j6jov7h wrote
What are the 5?
I want to know if I am one of the unwashed masses.
Edit: Now what I want to know is - what is the best way to use the internet? (also posting as a stand alone question.)
m4l490n t1_j6jp70h wrote
I think that the internet has degenerated from an awesome place to connect and share information and knowledge to a shitty for-profit pool of information-polluted-by-advertisement place.
yeahwellokay t1_j6jpuv7 wrote
My guess:
TikTok
ThenaJuno t1_j6jq75e wrote
Of those, I only use Reddit.
fuck_all_you_people t1_j6jrkx6 wrote
It inherited capitalisms blueprint once capitalism became heavily invested in it.
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Fake_William_Shatner t1_j6juz9t wrote
Of those, I sample a few of the more tamed regions.
darksoulsremastered t1_j6juzko wrote
This is the one true way.
bobbejaans t1_j6jv4dj wrote
The surprising thing to me is that even with the sheer number of people using these platforms, there are relatively few interesting things happening. The number of crossposts and reposts compared to original content is dismal.
ComeBackToDigg t1_j6jwheo wrote
To be fair, a LOT of the screenshots on reddit from other sites (like twitter) are completely fake. They were never screenshotted from other sites, they are just completely fabricated text from AI karmabots.
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ShitHouses t1_j6jxbdl wrote
If you're seeing a screenshot of a social media post on reddit, theres a pretty high chance its posted by a bot.
chrisco571 t1_j6jyh1g wrote
That's the point, you use one but get screen shots or shares of the "top" content in all others lol
I would add YouTube
mayormcskeeze t1_j6jylgy wrote
It really is a shame how completely useless the internet has become.
In just a few years "googling" something has gone from a sure fire way to find valuable information to a complete waste of time because everything has been choked out by garbage pages probably written by AI.
Edit: getting a lot of pushback on this comment. Obviously I was being hyperbolic calling the internet "useless." Its obviously useful and there amazing things happening on/with it.
So let me expand on what I meant in a less sarcastic way. While there is awesome stuff from personal communication to science breakthroughs to amazing open source projects that provide a wealth of utility and information, for many of us our basic day-to-day experience with the internet has gotten shittier and shittier.
Yes, you can pop over to r/internetisbeautiful and see some mindblowing applications, but wanna find a recipe? Fuck you it's all garbage. Email? Endless spam and bullshit. Social media? "Influencers" shoving products at you. YouTube? Dominated by the gutter trash that pushes the algorithm. Retail? Good luck finding something decent in the cesspool of fake shit that is Amazon. Customer service? Complete scam.
Do any of these obstacles ruin the underlying application? No. You can eventually sift through the crap and get to the recipe. You eventually sift through the crap and find the bedsheets you want. You can eventually sift through the crap and find your real emails.
But for those of us who grew up pre-internet and experienced a short period before all of thr ads, the data theft, the spam, the scams, the crap, and ENDLESS oppressive monetization, this version of the internet feels very disappointing.
mage-rouge t1_j6jyulw wrote
Yeah, you use reddit to aggregate the best/worst posts from Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and TikToc.
Red4pex t1_j6jzfhh wrote
Casually ignoring the billions of people using the internet in Asia
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hemetnehp t1_j6k1db9 wrote
You are just stuck in the main stream.... Stop being a drone xD
area_man_has_opinion t1_j6k2ccr wrote
Business people always find ways to monetize everything. Once things get monetized they are less useful and less fun. (If they are useful to the consumer (or fun), costs go up until they aren't.)
rhymes_with_chicken t1_j6k5opn wrote
If all you do is social media, ya. I only do Reddit, socially (too often, admittedly).
Aside from that it is the largest source of global information that has ever existed in the history of mankind. If you want, you can shut that other shit down and use it the way it was intended.
Bierculles t1_j6k6nnk wrote
Or google just trying to push products, Google search has been incredibly bad for a few years now.
fuck_all_you_people t1_j6k7mcj wrote
Fake sites created by other companies to fake rank best products and game the algorithm by putting their products first. Google should penalize people that game the spiders by making fake ratings websites and websites that explain basic shit and then refer [company x]
SKS_but_Who t1_j6k9kqq wrote
So much THIS!!! Social media is in fact a choice…and actually is NOT social…like at all.
lumberjake1 t1_j6kbhw8 wrote
YouTube should be on there
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Thraeg t1_j6kcmih wrote
Credit where it's due for this "original" showerthought:
https://twitter.com/tveastman/status/1069674780826071040
Frequently cited by Cory Doctorow, where I encountered it.
draculamilktoast t1_j6kddw6 wrote
> It really is a shame how completely useless the internet has become.
Yeah you can only use it for entertainment, employment, education, socializing, communication, research, file transfer, commerce, distributed supercomputing, telepresence and controlling teapots. Completely useless. What we really need is a series of pneumatic tubes! The tubes could contain actual cats, none of this digital nonsense that doesn't even exist.
raisearuckus t1_j6keflk wrote
And Amazon
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mrigendranath t1_j6kf6ep wrote
I think Tumblr should be on this list.... I frequently come across them on Facebook
LegitimateAsk7824 t1_j6kfnl4 wrote
People build a dam to make a reservoir so that a community has the water they need, then capitalists buy it from them and start raising the prices and letting the water grow toxic through lack of maintenance.
Social media started as a way for people to connect and enjoy being connected. It was damned from the moment the capitalists saw money in it. If you create something valuable, whether it's art or a social media site, you'd have to fight tooth and nail to avoid it becoming utterly disfigured and corrupted.
This is their process in everything. Max profit at any cost to the wellbeing of people. Profit before life, before love, before humanity. Capitalism as a system encourages them to do it, teaches them that as long as it's "just business", it doesn't matter what you do. Profit first, and fuck everyone and everything else. And they're not even happy! Rich assholes are miserable, but profit comes even before their own peace.
Standalone2 t1_j6kfwvw wrote
Someone said Standalone?
Dr_Edge_ATX t1_j6kgsh1 wrote
It is wild trying to explain what the internet "used to be" to younger people. Like just how there seriously were no ads on the majority of sites you'd stumble upon and just the idea that not all sites were about making money.
khamelean t1_j6kguvl wrote
Wow…just wow. You just classified the greatest repository of all of human knowledge ever known as “and not much else”.
There is more to the internet than just social media. Yikes.
fatamSC2 t1_j6kh3oe wrote
Isn't reddit way smaller than the other 4?
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khamelean t1_j6kh8mm wrote
The greatest repository of human knowledge ever known is “useless”…
Ok. You are definitely doing something wrong…
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ReaperEngine t1_j6kjqyc wrote
Yeah there's something very ironic about this being repeated on the subreddit, when the quote itself had made the rounds on each of the aforementioned sites.
thetomahawk42 t1_j6kjv3d wrote
Google.
Amazon
Wikipedia
Imgur
Something beginning with P
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Redtex t1_j6kk98r wrote
I love that the internet, aka the worldwide web, has been segregated for the most part into Continental zones. Monetize and segregated, not really what started out to be.
suffaluffapussycat t1_j6kkoo3 wrote
But we use the internet to watch movies, listen to music, do banking, communicate with people, check the weather, read books, map trips, buy stuff, sell stuff, trade stocks, look up information, book travel, track fitness, etc. etc. right?
Jedlord t1_j6kkr35 wrote
Wdym social media isn't social
SKS_but_Who t1_j6kl015 wrote
It’s the opposite of social. Everyone is alone in front of a screen.
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kounterfett t1_j6klv5f wrote
They literally talked about this on TWIT this weekend. I bet dollars to donuts OP had this shower thought while listening to them talk about this quote and the irony that they are just regurgitating here something they heard somewhere else is totally lost on them
cbf1232 t1_j6km739 wrote
Sorry, I gotta disagree. Maybe what you say is true if you limit it to "social media" instead of "The internet".
"The Internet" is so much more than just social media.
There are tons of websites dedicated to specific hobbies that have active communities. There are thousands of open-source and commercial software projects distributed online. Computer gaming, videoconferencing, online banking, niche online shopping stores that are way better than Amazon/Walmart/etc., remote access to computers for work, large-scale data transfer, a dozen or more streaming video services, online board gaming by subscription, the list goes on and on...
fuck_all_you_people t1_j6kma6a wrote
"If a monkey hoarded more bananas than it could eat, while most of the other monkeys starved, scientists would study that monkey to figure out what the heck was wrong with it. When humans do it, we put them on the cover of Forbes"
-Nathalie Robin Justice Gravel
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Jedlord t1_j6kmix3 wrote
You're still communicating and being social with people, just not physically in person, that doesn't make it not social.
ProbablyABore t1_j6kn0bk wrote
Yeah, I had to take a double take. I visit more than 10 individual websites every day.
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yeahwellokay t1_j6knx5w wrote
Confirmed: OP is Cory Doctorow
Emergency_Paperclip t1_j6ko2zr wrote
The best way to use the internet is to use it to get information from quality sources.
Online articles with no sources from dime a dozen websites are not quality sources.
Oh and just a quick pro tip. If you are looking for information about when a show or movie comes out, any article that has the words "release date" in the title do not have the release date in the article. At best they will be making a poorly educated guess.
SKS_but_Who t1_j6koj6i wrote
It’s actually the avoidance of socialization. Life involves being around other people.
It’s normalized in modern society, so people view it as social, but it truly is not a social experience. The only way it would be is if you use it to compliment an in person meeting, like…use facebook to invite a group to a party.
Goldbatt1 t1_j6kp2r8 wrote
I feel like this is where the ai comes and helps us out a little bit more. The ai would help to sparse the information quickly to find good sources within the organized mess that is the internet.
Jedlord t1_j6kpp3z wrote
It's definitely still social interaction, you're communicating with other people, that's social.
Ravore t1_j6kq8rh wrote
How many screenshots of Amazon conversations have you seen?
missionbeach t1_j6kqneb wrote
And I only use Twitter.
polytopey t1_j6kqpdk wrote
5 giants sites, all owned by the same capitals.
Capitalism innovates then monopolizes.
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numbersev t1_j6kr5d9 wrote
It was originally decentralized and gradually became centralized out of necessity. For example we as in humanity don't need 5 different Facebooks, YouTube's or Reddits. We all just use the same one and that's where it strength kicks back as well.
Web 3.0 is said to promote innovative concepts that decentralize power again, but I don't know how it would change the internet as we use it.
raisearuckus t1_j6krcgz wrote
What does screenshots have to do with anything?
FrostedJakes t1_j6krcxq wrote
Depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for legitimate information regarding things that have been researched and studied, Google Scholar is a great option.
Ravore t1_j6krih2 wrote
The literal point of the shower thought is the screenshots and sharing them.
dark_afternoon t1_j6krsm6 wrote
Replace Youtube with facebook and ur good
Eggplantosaur t1_j6ks519 wrote
>It really is a shame how completely useless the internet has become.
Get over yourself. The internet is a fantastic resource
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sunflower_jim t1_j6ksu69 wrote
I miss the flash days. The days of stumbleupon and the days when Google seemed to actually work.
sunflower_jim t1_j6kth0m wrote
I think for the vast majority this sentiment holds true. Just look at your phone time app to see it’s true.
It’s the same sentiment as a library. Vast wealth of knowledge but most people are there to read comics or use the PCs to game online. I’d wager some very good and important books have only been touched by the library staff for decades. Yet if somebody said “libraries are basically pointless these days” I’d have to agree, yet your comment would hold true there as well.
starlightchaser60 t1_j6ktq6c wrote
The world gets something with infinite untapped potential. Then, the world ruins it by being extremely greedy and selfish. Then, after a few years, what could have made human life insanely better is now mostly toxic, with a few good things strewn in here and there.
Multiply this by every potential Earth shattering invention.
Dwarfdeaths t1_j6ktuop wrote
I think the problem most capitalist countries are struggling with is the failure to distinguish capital from land. Capital - that is, wealth reinvested to improve the productivity of future work- deserves returns. Instead of enjoying your wealth, you gave it up for a time to be more productive.
Rent seeking - that is, the withholding of land from those who need it to live and work - is pure parasitism. No one created land, they just found it and claimed it. (Similarly, old capital that was made by someone who is no longer alive is indistinguishable from land.)
Henry George proposed a solution known as the land value tax. It effectively rents all land out, and distributes that rent uniformly among citizens. While the owner can still choose how to use their land, the economic value of that land is owned by everyone.
Capitalism in its pure form, i.e. privatized rewards for private investment, is probably fine. But land is not capital and we can't continue to treat it like it is.
RedOrchestra137 t1_j6kukeg wrote
could also just be multiple people coming to the same conclusion independently, cause it's not such a leftfield thought i think. it's just the truth if you observe stuff honestly. i've thought about this as well, just never had the urge to make a post about it. same goes for a lot of stuff, people aren't that original most of the time
26514 t1_j6kuoc7 wrote
5 sites of the English speaking world.
Baidu has like 200 million daily users.
msnmck t1_j6kuomu wrote
>Something beginning with P
It's been a while since I've visited Pinterest. ^(/s😏)
msnmck t1_j6kurft wrote
Isn't that the guy with the Skittles in his teeth?
WanttobeWannabe t1_j6kuxvw wrote
On the one hand, yeah, fair point. On the other, that is total fucking nonsense.
Dwarfdeaths t1_j6kuybu wrote
Lol I've semi-seriously thought about a system of (pneumatic? electromagnetic?) tubes to take on the increasingly large role of home delivery services. Instead of trucks and cars with humans manually delivering small packages, food, etc., we could just create a standardized tube system. Anything below a certain size can be shipped via tube, and only the big stuff requires an over-the-road solution. Then the only questions are how big should the envelope be and how much would it cost to install?
SomePaddy t1_j6kuyu3 wrote
You could have shared this as a screenshot...
26514 t1_j6kuz0e wrote
Wikipedia
Amazon
Tumblr
To name a few more.
If your definition is exclusively anglo-speaking social media then yes but the internet is way bigger than that.
Baidu, for example, is China's answer to Google and has almost 200 million daily users.
RedOrchestra137 t1_j6kvmq9 wrote
it's probably partly a consequence of the internet becoming more accessible over the years, so you'll have a larger share of idiots ruining stuff for others. like all these services trying to make setting up your own brand as easy as possible, and i'm just thinking please no we don't need more of these obnoxious assholes shoving their mediocre lifestyle in everyone's faces.
i think if you can set up decent scum filters that get rid of the sludge and slime, you can be left with a pretty clear and pure bit of online content, but it becomes harder to do as people just keep pouring bucket loads of garbage into the pond
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anembor t1_j6kwc1l wrote
And what is this fuss about reading I heard about?!
khamelean t1_j6kwy4k wrote
But the reason “libraries are basically pointless these days” is because most of what is available at the library is also available on the internet.
For your point to hold, you would have to say that libraries were basically pointless 60 years ago.
Not to mention that the “repository of knowledge” thing is only one other part of the internet.
Jonxor t1_j6kx7fm wrote
Somebody please get this person some interesting things to do on the internet.
Like did you know there used to be a server called “towel.blinkenlights” with some other domain where if you connect using the “telnet” protocol, it plays a little movie someone made with ascii art? There are a ton of awesome places on the internet like that, but they are hard to find. Who else has some classic stuff?
ForHelp_PressAltF4 t1_j6kxezs wrote
I for one welcome our karma bot overlords...
/s
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iamthelonelybarnacle t1_j6kxvdd wrote
Ngl I've seen videos on YouTube of people laughing at weird Amazon reviews and questions/answers
BirdjaminFranklin t1_j6kyff4 wrote
How are you supposed to find those random sites?
BTW, I miss webrings.
The internet was a lot more interesting when you had to create your communities.
It's not unlike what occurred to WoW.
santasbigolhelper t1_j6kyq45 wrote
Exactly. Like why would people even want to claim credit for this extremely obvious trivial bullshit?
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Glitchsbrew t1_j6kywqo wrote
Maybe OP forgot what porn is. Pretty sure it makes up about 69% of the internet.
mtnbikingvampwitch t1_j6kz0u4 wrote
I guess we can rephrase and say that online social interaction will never give you the same cognitive and health benefits as an in-person social interaction does. Both social interaction, but one stunts your ability to communicate in person.
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RedOrchestra137 t1_j6l04dp wrote
Because everything anyone says nowadays has a name above it, along with a number that is supposed to indicate the quality of the thing being said, or more like the amount of people who have read and agreed with the thing. That makes it seem like that thought is then somehow intellectual property of the person, while most of the time it's too trivial to have any sort of copyright law surrounding the thing. Yet people still want to enforce ownership, because it makes them feel good, and like it's them that contributed something to the public discourse and no one else. Ego and the need for social validation, which is something you can apply to almost every situation on social media that makes you question why someone said something. I must say I'm feeling kinda correct here, this may get validated and produce good feels for my primate brain
exiestjw t1_j6l0tx2 wrote
I develop ecommerce and data software.
I'm pushing 50, so as a boy I remember mechanical cash registers and watched them become more and more electronic.
For me the internet is a cash register, or a component of a cash register, and I add features to it.
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WhiskyAtNoon t1_j6l1rhi wrote
Xvideos, xhamster, xnxx, hub, blacked, motherless, youjizz, red tube, pornzog and Linkedin
tommytraddles t1_j6l20l6 wrote
gross
kimokimosabee t1_j6l20ls wrote
Thays a good question. Why do so many people do it?
WhiskyAtNoon t1_j6l257h wrote
We get a little wild and explore career opportunities from time to time.
ProbablyABore t1_j6l27cj wrote
You say this like it's a bad thing.
sunflower_jim t1_j6l2enx wrote
My point is the majority of people don’t see the value you see. To the majority this post is true. Not sure what the hell you thought my point was.
k0n3h34d4457 t1_j6l2j8t wrote
i think this shower thought would be more accurately stated as “the average person’s perception of the internet has boiled down to essentially 5 sites all sharing screenshots of each other”, which is certainly the case.
it makes sense because it’s easier for people to look at things online when they’re presented in centralized feeds with relatively simple to setup accounts. it kinda goes against how the internet was intended to be used though unfortunately and doesn’t allow for much in the way of user freedom.
hopefully enough people will hop onto activitypub-based platforms like mastodon in the near future.
EXandRR t1_j6l2xd1 wrote
That moneky would also be ripped to pieces by the other monkeys.
dandroid126 t1_j6l3ij6 wrote
The internet is really really great.
^(For porn)
I got a fast connection so I didn't have to wait.
^(For porn)
There's always some new site.
^(For porn)
I browse all day and night.
^(For porn)
It's like I'm surfing at the speed of light.
#Foooooor poooooorn!
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piepants2001 t1_j6l3pzf wrote
It doesn't help that search engines are garbage nowadays.
The-Hyruler t1_j6l3sms wrote
What part about online social interaction stunts your ability to communicate in person? No offense but this just screams armchair psychology expert to me.
It's a common trope that people spending a lot of time online are social "losers". But what people seem to not realize is that it's the other way around.
People who are socially atypical have an easier time socializing online than in person. It's not socializing online that makes someone socially atypical.
lbo4lyfe t1_j6l3tm4 wrote
in this form it is also stolen content but not a screenshot..mission accomplished?
princhester t1_j6l4hst wrote
I know you weren't aiming for a complete list but an important set of websites you haven't mentioned are the mainstream and other media websites that generate much of the content that then goes around and around on social media.
quick_dudley t1_j6l4ksq wrote
IMO a lot of the problems with social media in one way or another stem from each platform being run for profit by a particular organisation. During that big Facebook outage I got into this p2p social network called Scuttlebutt and it has a completely different set of problems.
quick_dudley t1_j6l4x4y wrote
I'm skeptical of Web 3.0 in terms of the specifics involved in that term but absolutely agree that decentralising the web again would be a good thing.
AgoraiosBum t1_j6l4xtr wrote
Gotta disagree on recipes; I find plenty of good recipes on line including some sites that I now trust significantly.
But often the best thing to do is look up 3 recipes for the same dish, see what they have in common, what is different, and choose what you want to do with that info, based on the flavors you like.
Spatularo t1_j6l5758 wrote
I think about this every day. I miss early Internet and all the random sites I would visit daily.
Berry_Juice1 t1_j6l5dys wrote
sure it's social, but it's also very anti-social, which is what people probably mean here
it's kind of nit-picking to say "you're technically socializing" when the point that it's driving people apart is valid, but you are technically right so have a cookie lol
wut3va t1_j6l5nc1 wrote
It's minimally social. A few lines of text is no substitute for sharing the five senses with other human beings. In person, you can dance, drink, kiss, laugh, eat, talk, etc. Body language, tone, touch, even smell, are all forms of nonverbal communication that enriches the human experience in ways that you can't even describe if you don't experience it for yourself. Social media is being social, but distilled to its absolute weakest form.
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slicerprime t1_j6l6fe3 wrote
You've actually defined - intentionally or not - what's left of the little bit on the internet once you've filtered out the five giant site orgy:
Trivial Bullshit
Quietus_Hook t1_j6l6hnn wrote
Which sites? Genuinely asking.
Hanako_Seishin t1_j6l6lnq wrote
Or maybe they got so good we've forgotten the second page of Google exists
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Ravenwight t1_j6l9lfx wrote
The Open Directory Project is still going if you want to hunt thru some categories
Jedlord t1_j6laekv wrote
So your social interactions aren't true social interactions if you're blind and deaf?
Jedlord t1_j6lallf wrote
Also social media isn't just a few lines of text you can voice and video call, and stuff you can do online together will only get more advanced overtime
SKS_but_Who t1_j6ldd97 wrote
I hear you. I feel old.
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wut3va t1_j6lduyu wrote
I have both a blind friend and a deaf aunt. You have to get creative sometimes to make those relationships work for everyone, but anyone who thinks their experience isn't diminished is fooling themselves. A person who is both blind and deaf is going to have very limited opportunities to make connections with people. It would be worse if we could only see each other online.
wut3va t1_j6le6sy wrote
Using social media, even video, to maintain relationships is like playing piano with mittens on. You can sorta make it work, but in person is so much richer. Like anything else, humans are capable of getting by with less if they have to.
mtnbikingvampwitch t1_j6lm9pl wrote
Agree to disagree. Not exposing yourself to social interaction and human touch (basic needs for humans) causes long term social and mental difficulties
Jedlord t1_j6ln7mu wrote
That's fair yeah, there are some drawbacks to online interaction but it doesn't make it not social or any less at all, it's just different tbh, and for some people it's easier to interact online and so for them it's better than in person. And yeah my original point was just that social media IS social.
The-Hyruler t1_j6ln8gq wrote
Sure but no one said anything about long term lack of exposure.
Jedlord t1_j6lneki wrote
You're just connecting with people via another way and I'd say it's not driving people apart, it's actually bringing some people together, for example you're meeting people online across the world you never would've been able to meet in person, that's definitely bringing people together.
Jedlord t1_j6lo9cs wrote
Btw thanks I love cookies
Berry_Juice1 t1_j6lqi53 wrote
no, im just having dumb reddit arguments, you dont know me
but ya you aren't wrong
Berry_Juice1 t1_j6lqju0 wrote
on the house!
mtnbikingvampwitch t1_j6lvvwr wrote
That's the only way it can be taken. Social skills .. are skills you develop over time of being social. If your only social interaction is online, your social skills in real life will be more difficult.
The-Hyruler t1_j6lwa0n wrote
Of course, and if your only cooking experience is with a microwave you're not going to be good at cooking.
But we're not talking about someone who only does one thing. Online socializing is still a type of socializing and it's definitely more healthy than no socializing at all.
draculamilktoast t1_j6m7e55 wrote
A drone flying a package home to you doesn't require expensive infrastructure and can theoretically carry a package of any size. The real advantage to a tube system might be in speed and maybe requiring less energy per delivery but plumbers are not rich for no reason.
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Dwarfdeaths t1_j6mh5th wrote
I'd think plumbing is way more complicated than a package system. Plumbing deals with a variety of pipe sizes, terminal devices, hydrodynamics, chemistry, etc. all meticulously integrated into your building. A package system just has to get a single type of object to the general vicinity of your building, and that object won't deposit limescale or grease over time. I think a better analogy is internet infrastructure.
SluggishJuggernaut t1_j6mzphg wrote
Thanks! I'll take a look!
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