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auyemra t1_jb89x21 wrote

this shit should have happened in the 90s & early 00s, before it was lobbied to death by big oil

if theres one thing Musk did thats good, its forcing the industry to evolve.

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Insighteternal t1_jb8hm32 wrote

Funny how most customers back then practically begged to straight up buy the EVs despite the cost…but oil basically said “no, lol.” Stinky combustion vehicle profits were more important /s

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tegs_terry t1_jb9l46b wrote

You say '/s', which is fucking horrible anyway, and you don't even have the wherewithal to use it right?

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OuidOuigi t1_jb96pfz wrote

And what batteries would they use? People would of hated them.

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travyhaagyCO t1_jb9lxk5 wrote

Exactly this, before lithium ion batteries the only option was lead acid batteries. 20 years ago, I tried to convert a VW bug to electric, it was only going to be cable of 40mph and it would need 10 x 12v batteries.

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mrchaotica t1_jbb9vt9 wrote

Nah, people loved their early EVs (GM EV1, along with some converted Rav4s, etc.) even despite the lead acid or NiMH batteries. They just mostly weren't allowed to have them because they were limited-production things, leased instead of sold, and mostly marketed to businesses.

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[deleted] t1_jbaq7mp wrote

Lithium batteries have been around since the 70s. Chevy's EV1 in the 90s used a lead acid battery that have it a range of 60 miles. Which is still 10 miles shy of the average commute.

All in all this argument is moot anyway. No one knows if the industry would have survived, grown faster or slower because it was shuttered so quickly, or even stuck around. Chevy made sure no one would be able to keep their EV1 and they literally put them all out to a parking lot to rust.

I will say this about the market though. Without Toyota and the Prius I think Tesla wouldn't have came along as soon or been as successful. If Chevy would have pivoted from strictly EV to a hybrid they would have taken the market from Toyota and would have been way better off from it. But this is all just Monday morning quarterbacking to be honest.

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