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lupina101 t1_itprncj wrote

Meet is the most nutrient dense food on the planet, so probably not.

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Buck_Thorn t1_itptrd6 wrote

If it is meat free, then it is not a filet mignon.

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tehpwarp t1_itpuhom wrote

I'm a hardcore carnivore, but if this gives me the satisfaction, and provides the nutrients then why not.

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nethobo t1_itpx96k wrote

A friend of mine is vegetarian, and a pretty good cook, so I have tried a good number of the meatless options commercially available. Some of them are very tasty. I have not encountered one that would "convert" me yet. All thus far have been identifiable as not-meat due to texture or taste. Ultimately I don't think we will ever be meat free as a society, but as lab grown meat and meatless product advances, we will get MUCH closer to it.

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smallcooper t1_itpxymf wrote

I will still eat meat but it will be nice to be able to finally show my vegetarian friends how I cook steak. I like this

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sour_raccoon4 t1_itq6a0h wrote

Eating less meat should be about a responsibility to the planet and your health rather than only because fake meat tastes better. People are so hopelessly addicted lol

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SlipS321 t1_itq6ygd wrote

The goal isn’t to convert carnivores. It is to give them more of what they like and make it better. Give people more options, it is not a campaign to tell people what to eat.

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synthjunkie t1_itq74ve wrote

Some vegan meats are really tasty. I do worry about the nutrients or lacktherof in them though. Some of them have high sodium and fat content too so it's still a hit or miss

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LiosIsHere t1_itq9b4y wrote

Carnivores? We're creating meat-free filet mignon for cats now? Or do they mean humans who eat meat, aka OMNIvores?

Personally, I'd love some meat-free alternatives to steak. I'm tired of all the variations of ground beef and chicken strips.

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ActualMis t1_itqceb1 wrote

Replying to SlipS321 (#219,410)

It seems like the reverse is true. Heavily processed, manufactured foods tend to be high in fats and sugars to try and make up for the lack of flavour. Companies chase profits, not nutrition, so relying on for-profit companies to concoct healthy meat-free alternatives may not be the best game plan.

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unicornsfartsparkles t1_itqdjk6 wrote

Americans could learn to eat less meat. You can go vegetarian or vegan for a few days a week.

That being said, I don't mind eating vegan food, but meat substitute vegan food tends to be fucking gross.

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SlipS321 t1_itqfy8m wrote

Replying to ActualMis (#220,169)

Alternative?

If you talk in such generalities it is misleading. For instance, I could say unprocessed foods tend to kill more people over time or lead to serious illness.

Is that useful, specific or relevant? No and neither were your comments.

You have to view this in context, these are meat alternatives. You don’t need to believe that they will be perfect to believe they will be a good option.

If you want to create new super foods whole cloth outside of capitalism and convince everyone to eat them more power to you. I think the project of reducing harm in the current system is worthwhile.

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Jsf8957 t1_itqg1vs wrote

I eat meat, but I’m not opposed to plant-based alternatives. What I don’t think these company’s get, though, is they need to stop trying to be just as good as meat at being meat. That will just never happen because a filet mignon is supposed to taste like meat by the nature of it being a steak.

Stop trying to taste like better meat than meat and start creating actual alternatives. Tofu is pretty gross but it wouldn’t have even caught on as much as it did if it called itself chick’n or be’f the way modern alternatives do. Same with black bean burgers… I’ve gone out of my way before to find a black bean burger because it has a unique flavor and they usually have different toppings to compliment that flavor… not typical burger toppings. If a black bean burger tasted the same as a beef one I would have just grabbed whatever was most convenient with no regard for whether it was meat or not.

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breadandbunny t1_itqhmvx wrote

Replying to synthjunkie (#219,530)

The fake meats are a doozy for health for sure. That's why it's so much better to just make tofu recipes from scratch, or do a lot of nuts, seeds, and beans for protein. Kidney beans, almonds, walnuts have great high biological value protein!

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originalhandy t1_itqi6c6 wrote

I'll eat veggies and meat but not processed garbage like this that in 10 years they'll admit is bad and causes cancer or some shit because we all know we need to eat less processed crap

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Hour-Ad-3635 t1_itqun5y wrote

Yeah.. no... can't replace applewood smoked bacon wrapped around a big cut of beef tenderloin. Nonesense.

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OhioVsEverything t1_itqwfv0 wrote

Taste, feel, cost

If the first two don't change and the third isnt more, I'm in.

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philberthfz t1_itr5sna wrote

Replying to Jsf8957 (#220,639)

Counterpoint: I actually want a meatless meat alternative that is a 1:1 replacement. I'd go vegan tomorrow if it didn't mean giving up bacon cheeseburgers. To be sure, having good options that are their own thing is fine and a noble goal. But sometimes, I just want a damn cheeseburger.

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RaycharlesN t1_itr9lh2 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#218,555)

I thought this too, then I did it. I went vegan for like a year and lost 30lbs without really exercising. I ate all sorts of fake meats and still lost weight. I like to eat meat so I fell off the wagon but going plant based was healthy, I could tell.

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Tobias_Atwood t1_itrpr4z wrote

I don't know if plant based synthetic meat will ever be comparable in taste or texture. I think lab grown meat will hit all the required notes much more readily.

I suppose it will all come down to whichever one scratches all the right spots while at the same time being commercially cheaper than real meat.

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vagueblur901 t1_itrsymw wrote

Lab grown meat is going to be the ultimate answer to factory farming, plant based foods have already been available and it's not winning over the majority. That's not an opinion that's literally what the market's are showing.

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RaycharlesN t1_itrxqjm wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#225,018)

Oh I know what you mean, I did lose weight and that is a very big boost to your health (if you’re overweight).. but they’re not really a healthful food. I have actually read that a pescatarian diet is the diet that is connected to the longest life expectancy..

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mattski69 t1_itsrdaf wrote

People have to remember that plant-based meat alternatives are going to get better (taste, nutrition, price) over time. Traditional meet isn't going to improve. In the not-too-distant future, the plant-based alternatives will be better than traditional meat on all three metrics. Do you remember your computer from 1990? Compare that to what you are using today. Plant-based meat will follow the same trajectory.

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boharat t1_itsyf6p wrote

If it's 1:1, I would imagine so, if the people eating it weren't precious about the source

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meanveganbitch t1_ittq9wp wrote

Replying to Jealous-Elephant (#233,794)

Thanks for the "ex vegetarian" spot on the bingo card. It's been a while since I've seen this lie used in the wild. Btw parroting phrases like "bad faith" and "intellectual honesty" doesn't make you sound intelligent. Again, please read a scientific study before claiming I'm "and idiot."

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WeirdDogLadyIsHere t1_itttpjq wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#218,555)

I'm a vegetarian. In the beginning it was more expensive because I relied on those "fake meats" or substitutes to make all the same meals that I used to make in the exact same way, but now that I've learned how to cook vegetarian meals without always using them, it's actually cheaper. For example I make tacos with black beans (actually delicious with the right spices) instead of fake minced meat, or pita bread with halloumi instead of fake chicken. It takes some time and trial and error to learn, but in the end my meals have ended up relying way more on vegetables than the standard piece of meat with some kind of sauce and pasta/rice/potatoes and in the process I have become healthier. I definitely think you're right though, those processed fake meats have way too much salt and are too expensive, and because people think you need those to be a vegetarian, it makes it seem less appealing.

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Electrical-Bed8577 t1_iturifs wrote

Replying to philberthfz (#223,775)

I have found a mushroom that has the texture of steak. I do not like mushrooms. This one is mild, chewy, has the right mouthfeel, tastes great as taco/burrito/pasta sauce. Dried, reconstituted in the pan, chopped. Will edit later when I remember which one, a fan shape. You can mash mix it with beans, tofu, or just less meat and some nuts. More nutritious than meat. Also found that certain nut and rice cheeses are actually pretty tasty. It takes some experimentation... which also makes the dogs happy!

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Kate090996 t1_iu2zn7o wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#226,218)

That's not true, most shifted from fetal bovine serum, one example is Mosa Meat, they excluded a animal products from the process since 2019. It was extremely expensive anyway.

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