Submitted by AsslessBaboon t3_yer851 in UpliftingNews
“It’s unacceptable in 2022 that Black Americans and other minorities still face discrimination based on something so trivial as whether or not they have textured or curly hair,” said Miami Beach Vice Mayor Alex Fernandez.
I never heard of this, but then again I wouldn't be surprised.
I don't think I've ever gone a day in my life and seen textured hair and thought "You know what? Fuck that person!"
>Florida's Miami Beach adopted an ordinance Wednesday banning race-based hair discrimination in housing, employment and access to public services and facilities.
Not American, but I've heard of how rampant this is in the states. It is bewildering, maddening and saddening. I've only visited once but the fact that hair products for my hair type are locked up and overpriced shook me.
That said, a ton of what people say about ya, ain't true. You welcomed me with lots of love, and am glad Miami beach is addressing an endemic issue. All the best
For anyone interested, John Oliver did a segment on the hair discrimination in the US
As someone with out of control nasal hair problems, I welcome the new protections.
As someone with a passion for combing, braiding, and styling my ass hair, I too appreciate this new ordinance.
John Oliver has a pretty good video about it. I never knew it existed either until I saw that. Actually learned a lot about the difference in hair care requirements for people of different races, really enlightening.
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Like the “Karen cut?”
For those interested, John Oliver's segment on the hair discrimination in the US
I don't understand why people can't just be kind. Yes, people are DIFFERENT. Live with it. Smile, be kind, be respectful, let people do their thing peacefully. And it doesn't cost you a penny to not be a jerk.
Ooo I was gonna suggest that. Must have complained to her governor.
I think it's more nuanced than this. Your statement on how rampant this is - well I can't speak to the southern Republican led states with a history of racism (excuse me confederate states rights) but in the states I lived in this wasnt a huge issue. The only areas that did have this stuff locked up did so for good reasons - they were high priced items that often got stolen. To be clear I lived in Milwaukee near the Walmart on Capital. This was an area with high crimes rates. People regularly got shot in a neighborhood a few blocks south. Their were almost always cops dealing with crime in the area. Also FYI - MKE is one of that most segregated cities in the US to this day. I point this out as there are white, Hispanic and Black neighborhoods in MKE. The business owners often reflected the residence due to how segregated MKE is. If you're been discriminated against by someone in your neighborhood chances are they had the same skin color.
Now the argument on why the products are more expensive - that may be valid. However I don't think it's discrimination for a store in a high crime area to lock up products that are high cost and get stolen often.
I only visited Georgia. Noticed that the same brand and type of product for caucasians would be unlocked, right next to a locked RFID tagged product of the same function for African hair right next to it on the same aisle.
Saw this trend in a number of stores
What kind of weirdo hates somebody for their haircut? Weird world were living in.
Idk if you watched the video or just missed it but John Oliver said the items that were locked up in that particular Walmart were similarly priced to the white hair products. I didn't hear anything in the video about the products being more expensive, although I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case for some products.
Ahh Bingo! Georgia is an awful state - sorry to those from Georgia.... It's true. They are a southern "former confederacy" state with a huge racism problem. Take a look at the Arbery case - 3 white dudes chased a black man for been "in the wrong neighborhood" and killed him. I am sorry if your only experienced in America was in Georgia. They have good food and good music but have a history of racism and electing idiots.
They have issues with supressing the vote (remember no water in voting lines - lines created by having reduced polling sites in heavily populated democratic and regions with people of color).
They also may elect a former football player who is a chronic liar and complete idiot to run their state because - and I not kidding - football is popular in Georgia. This man is running on a platform of anti-abortion and has had multiple girlfriends come forward saying they were pressured by him into aborting they're baby with him. Yet they would rather have him over a democratic pastor and business man who had been involved in government for years. No let's give it to the lying, cheating person with no government experience because - football.
Hahaha. I was wondering why they had rules for how you could wear your hair on the beach.
Then I thought it was for people Working On The Beach.
Finally, Oh.... "Miami Beach" is the city not "Miami".
Then that moment of sadness when you realize why they have to create these laws there.
Sometimes those of us not in the US forget how racist it still is.
“Rampant” is pretty overstated.
In the case of pricing. Am talking of my experience when I visited. Plus when I asked my mates there, they made jokes that it's the "black tax", similar to the Pink tax
Not pricing within the JO segment. It would be a tad irresponsible of me to recommend and put the link if I hadn't watched the segment.
I'm from Georgia - no offense taken. I'm glad I got out of there with my sanity.
No you didnt
It's always been the case. Its about thinking it's "unprofessional". I work at a highschool and an administrator made a black girl shave her dreadlocks off like a decade ago.
Hair discrimination is really really common.
I don't think that you're really grasping the point here. It's more like treating it as "unprofessional" or having rules at night clubs or dress code rules at work/school that don't allow people to have "dread locks" or "afros" or other types of natural hair. It's almost entirely rooted in implicit bias.
Another man coming to invalidate another woman's experience. You'd think the little piss babies would be bored of that by now.
Page 104 of the idiot male handbook.
Page 7 is feminazis and page 105 (coming next) is condescending word salad.
Believe it or not, that haircut is worn by many professional white ladies and has never been used to deny someone employment, deny someone a promotion or raise, or deny someone a client facing position. The "Karen" haircut has never been singled out by employers and school officials and specifically disallowed by dress codes.
It's almost like that haircut is not used to systematically discriminate against anyone.
Because it's learning day today: mocking does NOT equal systematic discrimination.
You're welcome!
I was replying to the comment under yours. They were justifying the black products being locked up because they're more expensive, but the video you linked (that I don't think they watched) specifically said that the items that were locked up were similarly priced to the products that weren't locked up, directly contradicting his statement that they're locked up for good reason.
My point is that racism absolutely plays a role in the products being locked up, not just data on what's actually being stolen.
People will find anything to discriminate against a certain group of people they hate. For black americans, their hair was targeted and still is today. All reasons are utter bullshit. I’ve heard school faculty call it “distracting” and “unprofessional” back in my day and of course, those faculty were old white people.
Discriminatory standards come from people who are unfamiliar with ethnic hair assuming that such styles are unprofessional. It’s never direct “fuck you” discrimination, a lot of it is subtle and subconscious.
Maybe certain products are more expensive b/c they cost more to produce, not everything has to be racist, ffs.
It isn’t hair discrimination, it is blatant discrimination of race by using a trait to bypass other equal rights protections afforded by the constitution and federal/state laws. This is pure racism.
Maybe those products get stolen more, so they’re locked up, like cigarettes, etc. Stop jumping to conclusions.
Natural Black hairstyles were prohibited by regulation in the US military until a few years ago. They didn't say the words natural Black hairstyles, but there were rules around hair bulk /volume and "dreadlocks" that made natural styles against the rules
Hairstyle variety is Peak Level in the SF Bay Area, come visit!
The article didn't provide any example of existing discriminatory policy that this would effect. Are there any examples of these in Miami Beach?
Or were one of them more likely to be stolen and those ones are more likely to be locked up? Seems extremely logical of that were the case.
I’m American and I’ve literally never heard of hair discrimination before, so I don’t know if “rampant” is the right word.
In the video, John Oliver mentions they tried to collect the data that proves those items were stolen at a higher rate, but Walmart refers them to the customer service line. So they didn't have anything to back it up and they eventually announced (along with CVS and somewhere else) that they would no longer be locking up ethnic hair products.
So if that tells you anything, it's that something isn't adding up. Literally lol
Lol if you would watch the video, you would realize that they tried to collect data that proves those products are stolen more, and Walmart didn't have any data to provide. They even released a statement along with CVS and another company stating that they would no longer be locking up ethnic hair products.
So who exactly is jumping to conclusions? Why don't you actually look at the material you're commenting on before calling someone out.
Men with man buns look goofy.
Hope I don't get in trouble for saying this..
Break News: Walmart doesn't compile crime statistics.
Who'd have known. That doesn't mean the items aren't stolen at higher rates
Look. Sometimes you need to be told that You have a yeeyee ass haircut.
The fuck they don't lmao. Walmart tracks everything that has to do with sales.
If they can't prove it, how did they decide to make it policy in the first place? They obviously would've had to have numbers showing those products are getting stolen more often, prompting them to lock the items up.
It's not rocket science my guy.
So if those numbers don't exist because they don't track it, then what would lead them to lock those products up besides racism?
What the crap is wrong with Florida (and others). Are we really this stupid??? STOP trying to control everyone’s lives!!! God DID NOT give us the right to judge other people!!!! For crying out loud!
Thanks, I wasn't really as aware as I should have been of this issue. That's pretty fucked up.
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Back in high school, administrators would regularly harass some of the African American students because their hair was 'unkept' or 'dirty'. Going as far as to suspend some for refusing to cut it or straighten their dreads.
black people, like myself, have dealt with this when trying to get hired for jobs. Saying our hair looks “unprofessional” or “unkempt” when wearing our natural hair. It’s pretty common at least for the black community.
Not for black people, it’s more common than you think.
Thanks for sharing the article. Yes it happens to black folks pretty often here in America. My relatives have had to shave their head (they had nice/neat dreads) and I’ve had friends who have been told their hair is too “unprofessional” for the job or it’s “unkempt” even though it’s just their natural hair (braids, curls, etc.) I hate that this law had to be made, but on the flip side I’m glad they won’t have to deal with that blatant racism.
Glad I could help (albeit not much).
So sorry to hear that Guv. I genuinely do hope things change over there. Till then, be safe and be well. Cheers
Well said! I think everyone in this country should watch the YouTube video. All truth.
Get better hair bro, problem solved lol
But also, how stupid is this? How do you prove your hair is the reason people discriminate on you? Prove, not think.
Chris Rock made a whole HBO documentary about it years ago. Black women's hair. Which is ironic given the whole Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith thing and how the news ran with it
The sign said long haired freaky people need not apply.
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