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gregorydgraham t1_iwfg7t9 wrote

Yep, its stupid to demand people with problems fix their problems BEFORE you offer support for their problems

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Zergzapper t1_iwfi6j3 wrote

And the Finn's proved it, housing first assistance is incredibly helpful, imagine trying to get clean when every night you are sleeping in a different place where it's not really safe well how bout you take a drink or a hit and now that problem is much less stressful. It's literally keeping them using just to keep them from a stress breakdown on the street which is of course also not a good mental health solution. You get people off the street, an address to have mail and checks sent to, a place with a locking front door, they immediately feel safer and those stressors are no longer there and no it's easier to.get them help.

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Northstar1989 t1_iwfoiv8 wrote

>imagine trying to get clean when every night you are sleeping in a different place where it's not really safe

Exactly this.

Asking homeless people with addictions to be completely, 100% clean for an entire month before providing them housing is horribly unrealistic, and grounded in a lack of empathy or understanding of what these peoples' experiences are like...

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Vyzantinist t1_iwg9ebt wrote

> imagine trying to get clean when every night you are sleeping in a different place where it's not really safe well how bout you take a drink or a hit and now that problem is much less stressful. It's literally keeping them using just to keep them from a stress breakdown on the street which is of course also not a good mental health solution.

This so much. Normies really don't know how bleak and soul-crushing homelessness is. You'd have to be a lottery-odds level of person to get and/or stay sober when you're in that environment.

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corsicanguppy t1_iwfj9yh wrote

> fix their problems BEFORE you offer support for their problems

Alcohol and homelessness are comorbid and complex but not the same problems; and they require separate, layered solutions.

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Northstar1989 t1_iwfoe7f wrote

>they require separate, layered solutions.

Solutions which are extremely, extremely difficult to provide in a sufficiently reliable manner while a person is still living on the streets or in shelters.

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gregorydgraham t1_iwfpmi6 wrote

Oh no! Things are hard! Guess we’ll just leave them too die

/s for the eradication of doubt

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