delta4956 t1_iznfe0f wrote
Reply to comment by Quantum_Kitties in Native title granted to South Australian Wirangu people recognises it 'always will be Aboriginal land' by DaRedGuy
Sure, I'm not indigenous but have grown up with many kaurna friends and have ways felt a kinship The preferred term is indigenous or aboriginal - native was sometimes a slur and still holds generational trauma for some. There is a relationship with the land that really doesn't involve wanting to build or on sell or divide up to ownership. Custodian is a significant term, the land is for everyone and the elders will choose what's best for the clan. Not all subscribe to this thinking, but custodianship is (normally? Idk particulars here, so this is an assumption ) placed with responsibility on the elders to guide use of, so very unlikely and I don't actually think there's any instances of them selling or developing the land. The significance here is that a title was granted over a symbolic statement, I think. I will no doubt get corrected on legalities, my knowledge here is very "my friend told me this" and drinking buddies aren't the most reliable sources even if they're mob
Quantum_Kitties t1_izng2ht wrote
Thank you so much for explaining that! I really appreciate it ♥️
Also my apologies for using the word “native”, I’m not Australian (I’m European) and English isn’t my first language, I know of the term “(non) native speaker” so I thought I could also use that word to describe myself. But I will just say “I’m not Australian” next time :)
checksanity t1_izod1gn wrote
Your use of that word was fine. It seems there was a mix up on their part with regards to reading comprehension, wherein they conflated the content of your questions with how you actually used that word. The confusion stemming from forgetting or not considering the multiple uses for the word “native.” Especially when written in lowercase*.
*To be fair, it’s difficult to rely on that level of grammatical detail on the internet.
delta4956 t1_izpc5rs wrote
Not at all, it was written for education not correction you were interested so I shared. Language isnt quite the same here as America for example, it's not going to start riots, and I'm sure there's plenty of indigenous Australians who wouldn't think twice to hear it.
thedailyrant t1_iznmu1y wrote
Your use of the word ‘clan’ is interesting. I grew up with loads of Noongar fellas and never heard anyone call the Noongar nation a clan.
delta4956 t1_izpb1a8 wrote
I asked for you:
"white friendly version of a kaurna'war word, but "clan" is local fellas other kaurna mob or nearby peoples like ngarrindjeri mob but that's more honorary. Usually call em mob one of us but not of us fellas."
Few messages later, he said it's also PC term as they werent tribes or sovereign nations so clan is what is official. Paraphrasing this one to clean it up though
thedailyrant t1_izq6gye wrote
Right yeah I wouldn’t think clan is particularly PC either but cool. I guess different mobs look at it different.
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