I'm all for a redesign however the ones you've offered don't do anything for me. They give Halo team badge vibes, which aren't terrible in and of themselves but not a state flag.

Needs Mt Rainier (Tahoma) or something

As long as there are no apples, it's good

It looks fine, but George Washington has basically nothing to do with the state, and Washington DC's flag is already based on its coat of arms. I would agree that WA's flag sucks, but any update is not going to have anything to do with this.

Thanks for the feedback. Being from somewhat out of state, I lack the inside knowledge on whether folks feel a strong connection to the person the state is named for.

Is that because the stars and bars don't say George Washington to you, or because you don't feel there's a strong connection between him and the state, beyond lending his name?

No worries! It was named by Congress at statehood, but Washington never got within 2,000 miles of the state. If you're looking for inspiration, I would look at:

the Cascadia flag

Mt Rainier/Tahoma

Pacific Northwest art

Thanks. I was starting from the basis of keeping to the current flag's intention of representing the person, but doing so less literally than a portrait of him. But perhaps a redesign needs to go beyond that idea, as you suggest.

The latter for me, we got Washington because Columbia was already taken for the nation's Capitol.

I'd like to see something referencing our geography over our namesake.

This is the best I’ve seen: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f6/37/c4/f637c43595d06a82a707c43bcfb1aa28.jpg

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I’ll pass, thanks anyway.

This needs to happen already.

Cascadia Flag is noice!

I'm not worked up by it enough to want to change it. We have greater issues here.

Ya I can speak for the entire state of Washington, unironically, that no one gives a fuck about George Washington.

>I'd be curious to see what r/vexillology's take would be

I posted the design there first and it got a favorable response. But that didn't tell whether the people of WA would connect with it.

>Do the stars/stripes have any other meaning? Or are we cool with a rotated and recolored coat of arms as our state flag? It's a little lazy, imo.

I don't what meaning, if any, the stars and stripes had for the Washington family, but as far as my design is concerned they are solely to signify Washington the person. It's a fairly standard approach in heraldry/vexillology for a place or institution to incorporate or adapt the arms of someone connected with it. The bigger question of course is whether signifying their namesake is something that the people of WA still want their flag to do.

I didn't know about that one. It looks good. What momentum does it have?

Lots. More than a flag by someone who knows nothing about the state Lolol

I wish it well

That's beautiful.

It has a ton of opposition too. I actually bought that flag during the Kickstarter campaign. I posted it on Reddit and it got a LOT of hate and the most common sentiment was, "our current flag is fine/better."

I think the flag change (which NEEDS to happen) is an uphill battle and that hill is Tahoma.

https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/6ewaem/washington_state_flag_redesign/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

That's the original designer prior to his Kickstarter campaign.

https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/y4chmq/proposed_design_to_replace_washington_state_flag/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Here's my post. I just realized I posted it to the vexillology sub not the Washington. So I shouldn't have read into the critique as much if they aren't actually Washingtonians.

(PS I am a fellow transplant. Welcome to the region! If you're interested in flag redesigns check out Maine's current flag and popular choice to replace it!)

No one here gives much of a shit about Washington’s family crest. We care that he shrugged off his British roots and founded a nation that eventually grew to encompass the beautiful land we now know.

We want a salmon or our big ass mountain that is 3 times the height of Ben Nevis on our flag.

Washington’s family crest would somehow be an even worse representation of what this great state means.

Preach.

Personally I think we should add some gold to represent our bread basket in the east, but I get how people would wanna stick with the more restricted color scheme for aesthetics

Edit: I guess the light blue is the skies if E WA, so ok.

As a lifelong Washingtonian, I would love a new flag the last better represents the state and not it’s namesake.

Here is an option that a Portlander put together from flags for good:

https://flagsforgood.com/products/washington-flag

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The current flag is at least unique because it's green. But I would vote for leaving it alone since things like that cost a bunch of money to implement, e.g. buying new flags for every school and governmental agency in the state, plus all the bureaucracy to create it. We could use that money elsewhere.

Gotcha

Thanks for the feedback

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Wow. That is a freakin winner! Damn that’s dope. Thanks for sharing!

You dont speak for me. I care about George and Martha deeply.

Haha, I'm sure you do.

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Yeah. I was enlightened to see the new flag design isn't perfect (if that's even possible). But I think if anything is an excellent step forward to getting rid of the seal on a bed spread.

I'd love to see some gold on the flag. Why not?

There is ONE connection between George and the state:

Apples.

WA is known for it’s apples, but they were introduced to the area by the wife of Ft. Vancouver’s commander (iirc it was COL Barnes before he was sent back east). She lamented that the soldiers didn’t have enough fruit to eat, and sent letters to her friends asking for seeds. Among them were apple seeds from George Washington’s orchard- but by that point The Oregon Country had already been split into the Oregon and Washington territories.

I'm just waiting for our state to get renamed with a local tribal name. Did George Washington ever even set foot on this land? Geez!

Interesting

Picked it up at the Kickstarter too! Flying it on my house as we speak. I remember there being a lot of hate for it too, but I like it so meh, whatever.

To even think this state would be pro George Washington shows you know less than nothing about this state lol

I’m afraid—aside from George Washington not actually having much of anything to do with the state—the design is a bit too military-looking for me: like something on the shoulder of a general’s uniform.

What do you think of this?

https://imgur.com/a/NJrbrph

Like this?

https://imgur.com/a/NJrbrph

I vote for the Cascadia flag!

To me, a coat of arms echoes everything about European royalty that the American revolution was intended to reject. I'd rather see a flag that incorporates the state's physical wonders: mountains, trees, water. My favorite state flag is Alaska's, which is just Ursa Major and Polaris.

But hats off to you for taking a stab at anything that would replace our bland currrent flag.

Interesting. I like the color bands, how they correspond to the major geographic sections of the state.

We should retroactively name it after George Washington, the founder of Centralia.

I like it!

>To me, a coat of arms echoes everything about European royalty that the American revolution was intended to reject.

May I first just challenge what is a common American conception of coats of arms. These were never the exclusive property of royalty. In many parts of Europe they weren't even exclusive to nobility; for example, each member of a medieval Dutch town council or the equivalent of a chamber of commerce would be expected to have their own coat of arms by which they were identified. And some of the best coats of arms come out of Switzerland, somewhere that has been without royalty for longer than the US! :-)

>I'd rather see a flag that incorporates the state's physical wonders: mountains, trees, water.

That is completely fair enough. That message has been coming across from other commenters too.

>But hats off to you for taking a stab at anything that would replace our bland currrent flag.

Thank you. It was a fun exercise, if nothing else.

I bought this from the kickstarter and fly it daily. I love it!

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Or edit the wikipage and start this rumor. I'm assuming there's a wikipage for the WA flag, if not, add it to the state's wikipage.

Thanks, that was enlightening.

I really like that one

Ya… those really aren’t doing it for me.

Try this: https://flagsforgood.com/collections/state-flags/products/washington-flag

Bullshit, the man was 6’ 20” and fucked the shit out of bears.

I heard that motherfucker had, like, thirty goddamn dicks.

It's better but that's really not saying much

Less pastel and that mountain looks like a flower

I don't give AF about George. I actually hate his face on the flag. The "stars and bars" as you say it is just boring

Looks too similar to DC, and green and yellow look like some ugly Green Bay Packers flag. I like the green- that should stay since it represents Washington well. But, make it unique to the Cascadia region.

Also, I hate that the state is named after Washington. As if every state in the union doesn't have a county named Washington let alone the capital being Washington DC.

We need a new name in addition to a new flag imo.

I’d rather name our state after George Clinton.

Our state motto can be changed to “WE GOT THE FUNK”

We could even have a state “sweet funky bass riff” along with that motto, state animal, state tree, & state etc. The annual state rave would be so dope!