Recent comments in /f/Washington

Top-Cantaloupe-917 t1_jeaam29 wrote

The WA constitution prohibits an income tax above 1%… capital gains have always considered income but the court wanted the tax to go through so they just decided to call it an excise tax instead. Basically if the constitution outlaws doing something just do that thing but call it something else and your good to go as long as the court agrees with the policy your trying to enact.

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etcpt t1_jea08jy wrote

Sorry to burst your bubble, but:

>The first known use of the term "Salish Sea" was in 1988 when Bert Webber, a geography and environmental social studies professor emeritus in Huxley College of the Environment at Western Washington University in Bellingham, Washington, created the name for the combined waters in the region with the intention to complement the names Georgia Strait, Puget Sound, and Strait of Juan de Fuca, not replace them.

To quote Dr. Webber,

>BUT WHAT TO CALL OUR INLAND SEA?
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>I knew that the tribes around our inland sea from both British Columbia and Washington State all shared a historical connection with the Coast Salish language. I also knew that the indigenous people occupying our inland sea were different from those living on the North West Coast of Washington State and those of the West Coast of Vancouver Island in British Columbia. As well, the indigenous people of the tribes living to the north on the British Columbia coast differed from those with a link to Salish languages. The name Salish Sea acknowledges the first peoples to live on the shores of our inland sea.

The first people who lived around this basin spoke a huge variety of languages, and probably didn't have one single word or name for this massive body of water. In fact, as David Buerge points out in his 2021 article "Why We Should Stop Calling it the Salish Sea",

>Webber misappropriates a linguistic term to identify his sea. Many native groups on its putative shore developed spectacular cultures over thousands of years, but not one ever identified themselves as Salish. It is a white term. It appeared in the 1840s when the Jesuit philologist, Gregorio Mengarini (1811-1886), was inspired to leave Italy and work as a missionary among the Flathead People in the American West.

He goes on to explain that this fellow traveled to Montana and lived with a people who called themselves Say LEESH. He became proficient in their language and wrote a dictionary of it, which linguists later used to realize that languages spoken by people living further to the west were similar, so they started calling them the Salish languages. Importantly, none of those people used this term to describe their own language - instead, as you'd expect, they each had their own terms. Similarly, they have different words to refer to this water, none of which is "Salish Sea".

So in summary, the term "Salish Sea" was coined in the late '80s by a WWU professor, using a term concocted by linguists from the name of a native people who live hundreds of miles away in present-day Montana, under which they lumped all peoples living in this area who spoke similar languages, even though none of them called themselves by it.

Now that's not to say that the current Indian tribes are unilaterally opposed to the name - a coalition of 70 tribes from around the region call themselves the Coast Salish Gathering and use the term to refer to this water in stating their desire to protect it. But if you want the historic name, from before European colonizers came to this land, then perhaps you should call it Tlahlch, like the S'klallam people do, or Kwailkw, as the Chemainus say.

(And just because someone wants to clarify some geographic distinction within a large body of water, kindly don't assume they're a colonialist "a-hole".)

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Rocketgirl8097 t1_je9yc8r wrote

And its way bigger than just kilometers. Think of lumber for example. Every sawmill has to be retooled to cut in meters and centimeters instead of feet and inches. Everything that is used to measure, everything we build from wood would change in size which may or may not fit where it is needing to be built. This one industry alone would see huge costs which would be passed down to the consumer.

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Rocketgirl8097 t1_je9xrdh wrote

Lol you don't know much about Washington. The country's biggest retailer (Amazon) is headquartered here. Our agricultural products are shipped all over the country. We supply most of the country's hops for beer. We supply most of the country's passenger jets from Boeing. We run everyone's computers with Microsoft products. I could go on and on. We gained a million new residents since the last census!! The rest of the country is pretty much aware of us.

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etcpt t1_je9wq7d wrote

I absolutely do - my point was that the original comment's assertion that Salish Sea = Puget Sound was wrong, especially since you said you were in MA 6. The Salish Sea encompasses a wide area, and specific geographic designators within that area are useful to understanding more precisely where something happened.

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Making-Breaking t1_je9vacc wrote

You should also take a look at the climate of the area that you want to live in. It comes as a shock to some people that not all of WA state is the gorgeous r/earthporn that you see posted. Much of the state is desert/mountain andnit has it's own beauty but you're not going to look it your window at a rainforest all day.

If that is important to you then you can narrow your search based on that. I would try to stick close to the interstates just for ease of transportation (I-5 ,I-90, even I-84 on the Oregon side).

I loved my time in Georgia, I hope you get to love your time in Washington.

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deafballboy t1_je9sl1g wrote

Each district has salary calendars available online. You can contact the district office for further information.

Affluent suburbs tend to pay top dollar, followed by cities, followed by less affluent suburbs, followed by rural areas. However, the McCleary Decision recently (ish) ruled that the state should be shouldering the majority of education costs, not local levies. This means that pay from district to district should be close-ish based of COL.

As far as I'm concerned, best areas to teach in are solidly middle class semi-rural suburbs. Parents are engaged, but rarely enraged or dismissive.

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Rocketgirl8097 t1_je9oc3t wrote

The problem is the cost of every factory (in the u.s.) having to retool to different measurements. Every gas pump would have to be recalibrated to liters. Car odometers and speedometers would be useless and have to be replaced. Every mile marker and mileage sign and speed limit sign would have to be replaced.. on and on and on. And this cost will flow down to the consumer. Things are expensive enough already.

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pinkysauce22 t1_je9cpl8 wrote

Yeah but he’s talked about it in at least one interview iirc and he has a line about buying a crib in Seattle near the end of that latest album. I know what you mean but I’m pretty certain it was genuine in this case. Like he waxed poetic about it for a long time. Like he didn’t seem to be bullshitting he was really intense about it lol. Like when I say horny I mean he sounded so emphatic and intense with his gravelly voice: “I love this city so fucking much” etc “I want to fuck your city so badly” and also referenced looking for a house in the area. I have a video of it lol, it’s almost gnarly how enthusiastic he is about it. Holding the mic like it’s a dick he’s blowing lol: “If I could deep throat any fucking city…” etc.

I mean I kinda get it, like what other city can you watch the sunset over the waterfront and a picturesque mountain range, hence this post. Like somebody else said, I wouldn’t want to live in the city myself, but I could imagine a visitor being very impressed by the aesthetics/proximity to nature/Puget Sound w/the ferry system… plus the space needle in the same view. I’d imagine a touring artist of Tyler’s stature would be pretty sheltered from the uglier realities of the city during his brief stay.

Lol idk why I’m writing a damn essay about it but I do believe it was genuine enthusiasm. Well beyond the usual “you guys are great we always love playing here” showmanship of touring acts. I actually wonder if T ended up buying a place in the area

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Hold_Her_Hand t1_je8y286 wrote

Author Susan La Riviere has written several (fiction) books based on Yakima.

The Lords of Moxee (a Romeo & Juliet replacing Montegues and Capulets with French farmers and Mexican Laborers)

Wolf Castle (fictionalizes Congdon Castle)

Ghost of the Capitol Theatre

And the non fiction St. Joseph's on Fire

Historical non-fiction could be Little War of Destiny which covers the Yakama/Walla Walla Indian war, Unsettled Ground: The Whitman Massacre and it's Shifting Legacy in the American West, Murde and Mayhem in Central Washington, Hidden History of Yakima.

Visiting local museums can also help. Prior to WWII agricultural areas were home to a lot of Japanese, Phillipino, and other Asian immigrants and Americans. After the WWII internment, most of them never returned.

There are a lot of long-rooted families in the area, particularly in the farmlands.

I'm kind of double-rooted. Through French-Canadian immigrant roots (my great-uncles were dentists in town, and my grandfather ran a grocery store - the building was a barbershop for decades and is now I think residential), his cousin also ran a grocery store until about 20 years ago. On my mother's side I am Yakama Native and a descendent of two generations of Chemawa children. My great-great grandfather was charged with assault and attempted murder for fighting the BIA agents when they came to take his kids. Actually coming down to the last of the line on the paternal side, as all my dad's siblings moved away and all my siblings moved away.

Aaaaaanyway. Short info and resources for you.

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