Submitted by malahchi t3_1118kd1 in askscience
NameUnavail t1_j8dmbk1 wrote
Assuming constant heat capacities for the 2 fluids, and no heat loss to the environment we can use conservation of energy to figure this out
Definitions:
C: heat capacity (J/kg/K)
T: Temperature (K)
m: Mass (kg)
Energy After mixing: C_Mix × T_Mix × m_mix
Energy before mixing: C_Liquid1 × T_Liquid1 × m_Liquid1 + C_Liquid2 × T_Liquid2 × m_Liquid 2
We can also use the following relations:
m_mix = m_L1 + m_L2
C_Mix = (C_L1 × m_L1 + C_L2 × m_L2)/m_mix
From this we can solve for the mixture temperature, skipping the algebra and getting straight to the result:
T_Mix = (T_L1 × m_L1× C_L1 + T_L2 × m_L2 × C_L2)/(m_L1×C_L1 + m_L2 × C_L2)
In words, we can say that the temperature of the resulting mix is equal to the weighted average of the two input temperatures weighted by their corresponding thermal mass (C×m)
(E: for mixing two portions of the same liquid, the thermal capacities are equal and can be canceled. The result in that case is simply the weighted average of the two Temps, weighted by the mass of each liquid. Since liquids ~ inkompressible you could also weight them by Volume for the same result in this case)
E2: This only applies to (E3: inert) liquids mixing, as u/E_B_Jamisen pointed out, for your given temps you would have ice and hot water mixing, or ice and steam if you're more than a few dozen metres higher than sea level.
N3uroi t1_j8flmtz wrote
Quite good and thorough answer. This only works for mixing liquids with the same (or close enough) chemical compositions though. With two different liquids reactions might take place though, altering the final amount of heat dramatically. The enthaply of mixing might be positive or negative as well. Therefore, mixing two different solutions at the same temperature can consume or produce heat as well.
s0rce t1_j8gvijl wrote
Yah, when you mix methanol and water the solution gets noticeable warmer while acetonitrile and water cools substantially.
Awkward-Motor3287 t1_j8h2yyp wrote
Why does it have to be this complex? Can't it just be calculated like averages are? If mix 1 part 100 degree water and 2 parts 200 degree water, can't I just do the following? (100 + 200 + 200)÷3=166 degrees. Assuming both waters came from the same source of course.
jbhelfrich t1_j8h3h1p wrote
If the two liquids are the same (C_Liquid1 = C_Liquid2) that's exactly what you do get. But the OP asked for a generalized answer for any two fluids.
Cheetahs_never_win t1_j8jhbz3 wrote
No - it's generally a good approximation if at the two states, the fluid's properties are approximately the same.
That's not always true for huge differences in temperature and/or pressure.
NameUnavail t1_j8ha5wt wrote
As I said, so long as it's the same type of liquid you absolutely can. The weighted average for equal portions simply would be the average
But if you have different liquids that doesn't work because different liquids can store different amounts of heat
Scrapheaper t1_j8hn4nh wrote
Only if the heat capacities of the two liquids are identical.
This is actually a very simplistic case since many liquids heat up or cooldown when mixed together due to thermodynamics.
Cheetahs_never_win t1_j8jgch7 wrote
Temperature is only one facet of the total energy state and is simply insufficient on its own to get the job done. I know, we thought the same thing and burned the crap out of ourselves in the shower.
We can't alter the universe's laws for our convenience - we tried, doesn't work. :)
And from the universe's perspective, a temperature scale that's built off a particular kind of matter within a certain range that's convenient for weird ape-people on a specific planet on a specific star is no way to run an entire universe.
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