Submitted by magixsumo t3_zzz4sy in askscience

Was in a discussion about radiometric dating, and someone suggested this paper: http://library.sciencemadness.org/lanl1_a/lib-www/pubs/00285784.pdf

They claimed the paper shows how radiometric dating is unreliable, because radioisotopes can be leeched or absorbed which would through off the ratio of daughter to parent isotope.

In practice, I’m sure scientists wouldn’t excavate samples anywhere near known nuclear tests sites or radioactive waste. I also know we have isochron methods to help identify contamination, but does anyone know how this is actually practiced?

How do we account for this type of contamination or does the paper have any real implications on radiometric dating?

Thank you

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CrustalTrudger t1_j2evjxm wrote

> They claimed the paper shows how radiometric dating is unreliable, because radioisotopes can be leeched or absorbed which would through off the ratio of daughter to parent isotope.

An important aspect here is that not only are these considering relatively rare areas (i.e., areas influenced by radioactive testing and/or natural reactors like Oklo), they are (1) mostly tracing radionuclides that are not used in radiometric dating and (2) more importantly considering migration into and out of material (i.e., minerals) that are not typically used for radiometric dating. That radionuclides are soluble and thus easily mobilized out of oxides like what this paper focuses on is precisely a reason why many of these minerals are not considered suitable for geochronology. Minerals that we actually use regularly for geochronology (e.g., zircon, monazite, apatite, etc.) are used in part because they tend to be relatively resistant to these kind of effects.

Additionally, the underlying premise seems to be that geochronologists just uniformly accept the assumptions of closed-system behavior when in fact we routinely consider, and test for, open-system behavior as a matter of course in most analyses (e.g., Schoene et al., 2013). The degree to which we are concerned about open-system behavior, and potential remedies or corrections, depend on the method. We generally expect that U-Pb dating in zircon will reflect closed-system behavior, but still almost always check via measuring both ^(238)U-^(206)Pb and ^(235)U-^(207)Pb ages whereas we expect the possibility of open-system behavior of something like ^(234)U-^(230)Th dating in carbonates is relatively high and do a variety of things to check whether dates are valid or influenced significantly by open-system behavior.

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magixsumo OP t1_j2fgrg7 wrote

Thanks so much for your response!

I’ve seen your comments on other questions, you do such a great job. Really appreciate your time and effort.

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