Submitted by colorado_hick t3_100y631 in askscience
kenlubin t1_j2lpfi8 wrote
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Would cold, low humidity air also allow sound to travel more clearly (and more loudly)?
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Omsk_Camill t1_j2m0v87 wrote
Up to a point. It's not that the air needs to be cold, it's that it needs to be cooler near the ground than above it. Sound travels faster in the hotter air, and sound waves curve and refract from the zone of higher speed into the zone of lower speed.
So in the night, when the air gets colder, the sound from up above tends to curve towards the ground and propagate farther. During the day is the other way round. More to read: https://blog.thermaxxjackets.com/refraction-of-sound-waves-acoustic-shadows-explained
RLutz t1_j2n1kdw wrote
I hope this gets more scientific discussion, but I'm very sure this effect happens. When I lived in MN if I'd go outside on the absolute coldest days, like -30F sort of days, the one thing that always struck me was how loud everything seemed, from the crunching of snow under my feet, or even neighbors at the end of the block talking in a normal speaking voice and yet still being able to hear what they were saying.
Edit: Did some Googling, and apparently the explanation about refraction is correct? Essentially the ground air is extremely cold but there's a layer of warmer air above which effectively ends up bouncing the sound waves back towards the ground allowing them to carry much farther than normal
Headytexel t1_j2mw39d wrote
If it snows, snow is a pretty effective sound absorber and can make sounds sound clearer due to the lack of reflections on surfaces covered in snow. It wouldn’t be louder though, it would be softer.
If you mean without snow, I have no clue.
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funnyman95 t1_j2lu5om wrote
I would imagine yes but that’s because humid air is less dense. The more dense the air the faster waves can travel, so dry may equal farther distance sound can be heard.
citylikeAMradio t1_j2lvwby wrote
I think this is a common misconception. Cooler (denser) air molecules move more slowly than warmer air molecules, and that effect negates the 'packedness' that typically results in denser=faster sound. For ideal gases, denser=slower sound.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Sound/souspe3.html
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Tartalacame t1_j2n63bx wrote
Would be the opposite, no? Sounds travel faster and further underwater than in air.
Would be logic that high humidity air allows sounds to travel further too, no?
binaryblade t1_j2nek5j wrote
Tempeture gradients can conduct sound along the ground. Importantly, snow being a good sound absorber tents to quiet everything down.
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