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addctd2badideas t1_j9uz2ah wrote

If people actually mean they'd prefer police reform when they say "defund" or "ACAB," then they can say that. Christ, that is such a cop-out (excuse the pun).

Because if I read between the lines, I personally look at the meaning behind them as, at best, wholly impractical, and at worst, an ideological purity test. This is why so little movement has been had in police reform... most people take this idea at face value. We don't need extremes to solve this problem. What's more is that these supposed slogans aren't really addressed to the people who need convincing. Just like conservatives, liberals and progressives do a whole shit-ton of ideological pandering.

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todareistobmore t1_j9vjwdu wrote

> We don't need extremes to solve this problem.

What you called for is "reforming them to where they're virtually unrecognizable from who they are now." Who's the loudest 'reform' voice that you think embraces anything resembling this view?

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