Submitted by DfcukinLite t3_1277tra in baltimore
EthanSayfo t1_jed5hy3 wrote
Reply to comment by jeweynougat in Amtrak shares renderings of rebuilt Baltimore Penn Station by DfcukinLite
Bummer. Well, I don’t use it as often as I used to, but I imagine this will present challenges for some people who make use of the lot.
DfcukinLite OP t1_jed7n8f wrote
Theres an underground parking garage at the station + a surface lot + parking garage located a half a block away on Charles at the 1700 block in Station North between Metro Gallery and Club 1722.
Theres ample parking, more than there needs to be at a centrally located transit hub such as Penn Station. Can’t wait for the infill development that should happen around Mount Vernon and station north once this is finished to convert all the surface lots near by into something productive and adds to the tax base.
I’m very excited for this project. it’s going to be a game changer for central Baltimore and mount Vernon/station north
dingusamongus123 t1_jedf05y wrote
Im happy theyre removing some of this unnecessary parking. I agree that the lot is more than enough. That lot across the tracks is expensive and heavily underutilized anyways
GoodCloud t1_jedt5b9 wrote
I am so happy to hear the parking lot is going away! It is such an eye sore and the area around Penn Station overall really needs to become more pedestrian friendly. This is a great step towards revitalizing the city.
ohamza t1_jed7h38 wrote
The 5 cars that use it? There’s already a big parking garage right next to the station, that lot could be used much more productively and the city stands to gain from it being redeveloped.
DfcukinLite OP t1_jed9e8i wrote
That garage and surface lot is owned by the owner of Lost City Diner, The Depot, Club Charles, and Club 1722 I believe as I know for a fact she owns that entire block. I hope she sells to the highest biding developer so we can get some new mixed-use buildings in Station/Charles North. It’s crazy to me how there’s all those big mostly unused surfaces parking lots between Charles/Lanvale up to Charles/23rd that would be perfect for redevelopment into a mix of housing/retail/entertainment. It would really had a HUGE impact on changing area for the better.
EthanSayfo t1_jedcokx wrote
The garage next to the station is filled by 9am, at least when I was using it regularly. I doubt it's changed much?
And thanks for the downvote -- yay, gotta downvote people I disagree with parking about, rawr! Go get 'em.
ohamza t1_jee4q25 wrote
I didn't downvote your initial comments, but sure I'll take credit. That station is served by multiple bus lines, including the free circulator and the a light rail a block away. It's accessible as is without a personal automobile that the rest of us have to accommodate. I personally use a scooter to get to Penn.
Anyway like I said, the surface lots in the city can be better utilized as folks on here know.
jeweynougat t1_jeehe5y wrote
I'll have to disagree with this. I park in that garage. It is full and then it turns over and fills again in the evening. I live in the Northeast. It take a 15 minute walk and then two buses to get to Penn Station. The first bus comes every 30 minutes during rush hour (!!!) and often doesn't show up or is running late (I went just now to looks at the exact headway on Google Maps and it is running 20 minutes late, eg, right now). There is no light rail. There is no metro. For physical reasons, I cannot use a bike or scooter. Until Baltimore does better with reliable public transportation that serves all areas of the city, there needs to be some affordable way for people to park their cars near the train. It doesn't have to be on that block but the city is large, this is the only train station, and public transportation is a joke.
ohamza t1_jees02y wrote
Then join us for the fight for better transit. The city can only do so much since the state runs everything besides the circulators.
DfcukinLite OP t1_jee86i9 wrote
The light rail comes directly to the station, not a block away.
ohamza t1_jeechfb wrote
Does it now? I know they used to run a light rail shuttle between Penn and Camden Yards that went directly to the station, but they stopped it during COVID. I know coming down from the north the closest stop is Mt. Royal which is a quick walk over.
DfcukinLite OP t1_jeecyp1 wrote
Yeah, it wasn’t a “shuttle”. It was a legit line. But yes Penn Station has a light rail stop. You have to catch it between Camden yards and Mt Royal, so you coming from the North would mean you’d have to catch the the Penn Station train at Mt. Royal to transfer which is dumb because at that point you could just walk.
The only reason the lightrail stop there is closed is due to the station redevelopment upgrades to the track and platform.
ohamza t1_jeerocx wrote
Gotcha, that makes sense. It is pretty dumb that they didn't build a track so that the southbound trains north of Mt. Royal can go straight to Penn, seems like something pretty obvious. Granted I live just close enough that while walking is too far taking public transit is less efficient than a scooter.
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HokieS2k t1_jed8odn wrote
I use it when going to places on N Charles. Very convenient for that neighborhood, and I bet the restaurants and The Charles Theatre like having it
DfcukinLite OP t1_jeddch6 wrote
I’m sure the restaurants owners and Charles theater will be much happier with all the new residents and foot traffic from this than they will miss the underused waste of space parking lots and garage on the 1700 block of N Charles
dingusamongus123 t1_jedf5v9 wrote
Exactly. People bring revenue, not cars. Foot traffic leads to a lively neighborhood, which can lead to even more foot traffic
jeweynougat t1_jeeerpv wrote
It's pretty lively! I park in that garage and in the evening as I leave it fills up again. It has a $3 deal for restaurants, the club, and the Charles Theatre.
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