sicknutz t1_j6m5owj wrote on January 31, 2023 at 8:33 AM

Wouldn’t that be NIMBYs dream scenario? Making it difficult for city residents to access the county while adding another route along which to run and bike for exercise?

These urban transformations are awesome but American cities (all of them) are entering a period of rapid decline and it’s hard to imagine this being viable here.

BJJBean t1_j6nrgva wrote on January 31, 2023 at 5:14 PM

My first thought was that by making it more difficult to enter the city you don't actually encourage people to move to the city but rather to get a remote work job so they never have to go to the city again. Which in turn speeds up the decay of the city by killing restaurants and all the other businesses these people used to go to.

Like you said, we're already seeing large cities lose population as people get "work from home" jobs and move to less dense areas.

Overall I don't think people are not living in cities because there aren't enough green spaces. I'd assume that if you polled people on why they don't want to live in Baltimore the top reasons would be taxes and crime with green spaces not even breaking the top 5.

physicallyatherapist t1_j6n5ogh wrote on January 31, 2023 at 2:55 PM

NIMBYs usually don't want additional housing near them and it looks like housing is pretty similar in both. I don't see how this is a dream scenario or how it makes traveling more difficult but i might be missing something

bwoods43 t1_j6mrs2q wrote on January 31, 2023 at 1:08 PM

That's what I don't understand as well. How are people getting to and from the city from the north in this scenario? Sure, it would be great to have more greenspace and fewer roads everywhere, but does that mean we will also close the light rail and businesses, too?

tacsatduck t1_j6n3r6h wrote on January 31, 2023 at 2:42 PM

I mean the case for the city to make it harder to commute into the city by car could help it in a number of ways, while hurting it in others. These roads where put in to help build suburbia, and have been used to siphon money and population away. If the city is going to focus more on residents, it makes sense to make the city more attractive to live in.

moderndukes t1_j6o0cdc wrote on January 31, 2023 at 6:07 PM

Most proposals call for the JFX to be converted around the Pepsi Sign and the Light Rail for that portion would have dedicated lanes. It isn’t a total removal of the JFX, it’s truncating it.

engin__r t1_j6myvck wrote on January 31, 2023 at 2:06 PM

I'm sure it's more complicated than this, but what if we kept the light rail and ended the highway at Northern Parkway? We could put in a park-and-ride for people to get downtown.