Brichess t1_j1yiorp wrote on December 28, 2022 at 9:46 AM

Reply to comment by mnvoronin in How Ukrainian publishers are fighting to survive by livingmybestestlyfe

do you have a non-paywalled source, or at least a source where the actual graph, abstract or sources can be viewed without paying 50 euro? That data seems bizarre to me and I would be interested in how they reached it.

mnvoronin t1_j1ymav9 wrote on December 28, 2022 at 10:37 AM

Damn. It's the second time it happens to me.

When I accessed this source via Google search, it didn't paywall the data. Opening it from the Reddit link doesn't let me see shit. :(

Try searching for "world reading habits 2017" from the private window. It seems to allow you to open the stats one time for free.

However looking at the sidebar, the source seems to be an online survey, so results are probably skewed somewhat (though given that over 90% of Russians have Internet access, probably not much - at least the distortion should be relatively similar to that of USA results).

It also does match pretty well with my own observations, though obviously, my account is purely anecdotal and not statistically significant :)

Joggeri t1_j1yro9a wrote on December 28, 2022 at 11:48 AM

It’s a survey. Japan and S Korea don’t read much either compared to the world so either manga doesn’t count, or Japan and S Korea; the home of manga and mangwa doesn’t actually read their own media, or the data is trash.

Brichess t1_j1yv5g1 wrote on December 28, 2022 at 12:30 PM

I also saw that and it seemed weird to me, I wanted to see how the author might have controlled for other media but it seems there were no controls or methodology beyond asking the question if they "read books" on an online survey which seems like a horrible way to gather any kind of reliable data - especially if the survey was in English. I can only assume though which is why I ask for a methodology that isn't paywalled since I'm not forking over 50 euros.

Joggeri t1_j1yvp83 wrote on December 28, 2022 at 12:37 PM

It be much harder to assume anything else. Maybe author chased down millions of people and spied on their reading habits daily and won’t give December 25th presents if they didn’t read, but sent the survey out in elsewhere in Russian and the people of the democratic republic of Congo didnt have google translate.

It was probably for people with internet access in their native language. And the people of Japan and Korea probably read online or don’t count their “comics”.