Submitted by PieChartPirate t3_yququ5 in dataisbeautiful
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CardboardJ t1_ivqn9rt wrote
Anecdotal evidence, but on LinkedIn senior dev jobs still seem to be posted for a week with only 4-5 applicants, while project/product/engineering manager positions seem to get 50 in the first hour.
Beansilluminate t1_ivqnj5e wrote
Also interesting, and a much different graph would be absolute number of employees
dasbootdasfoot t1_ivqo5xf wrote
The social media era is starting to come to an end.
formicatile t1_ivqpdrx wrote
Recruiting/talent acquisition is slashed for obvious reasons. No need to pay staff to find new hires when you’re not hiring.
konotiRedHand t1_ivqs97q wrote
I mean. These are all companies with massive revenue loss. Crypto, meta/Twitter (writing on walls) and peloton oversold their products without a plan to extend past that user base (or one that worked).
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Tactical45 t1_ivqvqjb wrote
The latter have much broader and vague skill set requirements and thus attract much more unqualified applicants.
If a senior Eng role requires some very specific skills (eg programming language X), and if you don't meet those you know there is likely no point even trying.
PaperbackPirates t1_ivqw7jl wrote
I got 300 applications for an associate product manager position on LinkedIn. Maybe 12 of the applications were actually qualified … for an associate position.
merkaba_462 t1_ivqwy67 wrote
Can't happen soon enough. I for one love watching Twitter burn...
merkaba_462 t1_ivqx3nj wrote
It was majority moderation people, which, let's face it, they did a shit job to begin with, but it's so much worse now...
CosechaCrecido t1_ivqxkpg wrote
It got bloated during the pandemic. It’s trimming the fat down to a sustainable level.
ShinjukuAce t1_ivqzis0 wrote
Crypto is stupid, the Metaverse is stupid, and Twitter was bought by a lunatic.
If there are mass layoffs at real companies like Apple and Microsoft I’ll worry about the state of things.
Dasquare22 t1_ivr0ma1 wrote
Are most of these companies going to report record profits at the end of the quarter with 6-7 figure bonuses for the CEO’s?
Cause if I was one of those people that got laid off I might be trying to idk unionize or something crazy.
Silverdragon246 t1_ivr404z wrote
This subreddit should be renamed to r/NewsInBasicDataForm
BrokenTurtleShell t1_ivr4caa wrote
Elon has personal motivations behind the Twitter restructuring so that's an anomaly.
Meta going through similar sort of restructuring by the Zucchini.
Cryptodotcom and Coinbase part of the crypto decline.
Peloton has been on the decline for ages, this was inevitable.
It's not Tech layoffs, just unrelated events...
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pm_me_github_repos t1_ivr6fi1 wrote
Would be cool to see absolute numbers too. Twitter looks like a lot proportionally, but Meta just laid off 3x as many people
Also some notable mentions: Lyft, snap
alpacasarebadsingers t1_ivr7w86 wrote
This data is meaningless without knowing the size of these companies prior to layoffs
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Actually-Yo-Momma t1_ivr8s1s wrote
Datacenter infrastructure requires a solid amount of team members
NattyMcLight t1_ivr95vo wrote
Sometimes data is not beautiful. Sometimes it is just a bar graph.
the_clash_is_back t1_ivragj1 wrote
Pretty much all these companies either made bad calls, had bad models, or had literal insane restructuring.
the_clash_is_back t1_ivran63 wrote
The solid blue chip companies are still doing fine, your ciscos, Microsoft’s, and apples are doing rather well.
Fatshortstack t1_ivrax65 wrote
I don't think metaverse is a grift, just a stupid fuckin product no one wants.
Santier t1_ivrccg7 wrote
Right? This is such a cherry-picked list. Hardly representative of the industry as a whole.
SpiderFarter t1_ivre9sn wrote
Shame all these progressives are losing their jobs after supporting policies that are destroying our economy.
Aquartgift t1_ivrhdy0 wrote
Looks like the recession has finally started
-yato_gami- t1_ivrip39 wrote
Can you create a new with the exact numbers and at the end of it you can add the total%?
Bcs the employee base different for all these companies we just can't compare it with % , we need absolute numbers too.
ShutUpYoureWrong_ t1_ivrk999 wrote
This is the most low effort, garbage tier, pile of shit post I've seen in a while.
Percentages mean nothing when each company has vastly different amounts of workers. 50% of Twitter is 3,700. 13% of Meta is 11,000.
Tactical45 t1_ivrov26 wrote
Work as a PM - can confirm mismatch between what people think is required and what is actually required 😂
amznfire t1_ivrr3fi wrote
Not even a graph, just a chart
blitzinger t1_ivrs1yt wrote
Meanwhile my company is dying for new developers. Need to set up recruitment office in San Francisco
xylopyrography t1_ivrscoe wrote
Google is coming soon.
Apple and Microsoft probably just more strict hiring freezes and internal attrition.
xylopyrography t1_ivrt89r wrote
Lyft, Shopify, Snapchat, Robinbood, Booking.com, Opendoor...
That's just the last week.
There are hundreds of other tech companies announcing significant layoffs in the last 3 months.
haveasuperday t1_ivrvbsa wrote
Without the interesting numbers, even.
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I keep hearing this as well. A huge amount of applicants are absolutely unrelated to the job.
Strongest-There-Is t1_ivrz36n wrote
If you work for a company in my portfolio, fucking leave now before it’s too late. There’s a 100% chance you’re getting fired.
IBlameItOnTheTetons t1_ivs6psk wrote
One could only hope, but I doubt it.
seiyamaple t1_ivs70pi wrote
What makes you say Google is coming soon?
xylopyrography t1_ivs87o0 wrote
The drop in ad revenue will continue as interest rates rise.
I don't think they will care to retain the same headcount.
Maybe they can continue with just attrition, but they'll likely want to clean 10-15% too.
BobMunder t1_ivs9mgy wrote
These next 18 months will be incredibly tough for smaller tech companies. During a downturn, investors will not compromise for growth over profitability. It would be wise for every company to perform lay-offs now rather than when their cash runs dry.
I’d be surprised if any large tech company doesn’t have layoffs in 2022 or 2023.
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zack14981 t1_ivsag5n wrote
Did you also call the first iPhone stupid?
Seems like the only stupid one here is you.
ArkGuardian t1_ivsbcc8 wrote
There's not a drop in ad revenue outside of YouTube.
ArkGuardian t1_ivsbsow wrote
What anti-tech policy has the Biden administration passed?
Twirdman t1_ivscgm1 wrote
One the first iPhone was not a dramatic departure from existing technology it was a significant improvement over existing technology so your analogy is stupid.
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Second some of those are just plain stupid. They serve no function. What need does crypto fill? We already had secure, instant, online fund transfers and have for years before crypto. Crypto added nothing to this. All crypto does is waste an inordinate amount of energy to produce random digital strings of nothingness.
zack14981 t1_ivscre0 wrote
The metaverse is to vr what the iPhone was to phones. I’m not saying I like the metaverse, but if you’re going to talk about improving existing technology, they’re very similar.
You can call crypto useless, but the fact is that there are billions of dollars circulating around in the crypto space. Calling a business that operates in that space and makes money doing so “not a real company” is just fucking asinine.
timmeh-eh t1_ivsf3av wrote
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha…. Challenge there is people wanted phones. A shitty vr version of second life is the answer to a question nobody’s asking.
weazelhall t1_ivsf6vr wrote
Isn't android a Google product?
110397 t1_ivsfa3m wrote
The data scientists got laid off
Zesty-Lem0n t1_ivsheno wrote
Lmao middle management rats scurrying after another do-nothing job.
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[deleted] t1_ivsidfr wrote
What’s the definition of tech company? They develop their own hardware and software.
[deleted] t1_ivsijm4 wrote
If you were a mod, what criteria would you use to take down something like this? How would you even objectively judge “beautiful” aspect of dataisbeautiful?
Existential_Stick t1_ivsinfm wrote
There was another one recently about police killings in "1st world countries" that wasn't normalized per capita, didn't disclose any time frame, and cherry-picked countries it featured, conveniently excluding any country higher than the US.
...but of course it got mad upvotes and awards because "America/Cops bad"
denimonster t1_ivsk0hi wrote
Did you decide to wake up today and choose to just dribble garbage out of your mouth?
Zyguard7777777 t1_ivsmg7l wrote
Missing Meta's 11,000 lay offs
HieronymusGoa t1_ivsmmg6 wrote
finally some really beautiful data.
streetvues t1_ivsrjdo wrote
What are the biggest misconceptions people have?
caveyh96 t1_ivsrwkm wrote
They are still tech companies
caveyh96 t1_ivsrzku wrote
"real companies" what a sad sentence. They are all real companies even if you don't like what they do or who owns them.
Hole-In-Six t1_ivstktj wrote
Are you calling beanie babys stupid! Because the fact is there's millions of dollars floating around the beanie baby space. - Some guy in 1999
TheBoyInTheBlueBox t1_ivsuhzx wrote
Defs needs animation
joeparni t1_ivsxom4 wrote
How have you used all of those tools and yet created something you could literally do in excel?
r/dataisnotbeautiful
KajePihlaja t1_ivt3qe6 wrote
I have no real answer other than my friend was a recruiter for stripe for the last few years and was recently laid off.
BrainTraumaParty t1_ivt5x21 wrote
There’s way way more companies that have laid people off. 766 companies so far according to: layoffs.fyi
the_scign t1_ivt6m2i wrote
Also people who were fired then rehired shouldn't be included.
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DaBIGmeow888 t1_ivt8eg0 wrote
Twitter is tech? They seem pretty basic website.
lateavatar t1_ivt98vv wrote
Maybe these people can get together and start a decent social media platform and payment app.
AxelNotRose t1_ivt9bpe wrote
Not the person you asked but I find that good PMs are difficult to differentiate on paper vs. Poor or unqualified PMs due to the fact that what usually makes a PM stand out are their soft skills. Skills such as how to communicate, how to create relationships, how to find balance between being an ass to get shit done vs. Being understanding about potential delays, and so on. Soft skills are difficult to quantify on a written resume. Everyone can write "excellent communication skills". It's not quantifiable like knows this prpgramming language or this application suite or whatever. During the interview process, you have to ask SAR type questions to differentiate the good ones vs. The bad ones.
Throwaway-tan t1_ivta13g wrote
Stripe is a real company though...
aaahhhhhhfine t1_ivtfgen wrote
The iPhone isn't "stupid" in an abstract sense. But it is baffling that so many people are willing to pay so much money for them. They aren't that amazing. Hell, I'd take a midrange Android device over an iPhone any day of the week. The confusing thing is that so many people are willing to spend about twice what they should for iPhones that apple is somehow able to fucking thrive as basically just a hardware company. It's kind of amazing... Their software is mostly just ok (though they've got a few decent things)... They're really just a hardware company that somehow made that work.
Spice_and_Fox t1_ivtg8t0 wrote
Using a nuke to kill a spider....
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Etch_a__sketch t1_ivtgzzf wrote
There is no reasonable argument that Apple is just a hardware company lol. They actively develop several operating systems. To call Apple a hardware company is a complete misunderstanding of how Apple operate.
champinwaiting t1_ivtheic wrote
How is peloton a tech company ????
aaahhhhhhfine t1_ivtiwxj wrote
Of course there is... They make all their money from hardware. Also Tim Cook was specifically picked for the job because he was their hardware supply chain guy and that's the company they are.
You are completely misunderstanding Apple.
Alundra828 t1_ivtjah3 wrote
It makes sense.
WFH renders most managerial skills moot. Not to mention that the skills employed by managers are vague and non-standardized, and most have been internally promoted, so may not actually qualify elsewhere.
Mocker-Nicholas t1_ivtk006 wrote
I’ll rant a bit here and say it’s because PMs are people who want to work in the tech space, with tech people, with the tech lifestyle benefits, without the downside that is knowing how to do the technical stuff lol.
Disclaimer: I feel like I’ve worked some PMs with a ridiculous sense of entitlement.
PaperbackPirates t1_ivtk90s wrote
Yeah, that is for sure it. Fwiw, I hate working with non-technical PMs lol
h737893 t1_ivtkhl6 wrote
bad pms need jobs too. If one identifies as a bad pm should they apply?
h737893 t1_ivtkmz1 wrote
What if your boss asked you to be promoted to pm. Would you accept?
Trixteri t1_ivtkqce wrote
the only chain that wastes energy is Bitcoin. the digital strings of nothingness are proof that everything really does exist there.
Mocker-Nicholas t1_ivtlmsb wrote
Depends on the money. I guess if the salary was higher I would consider it. But I just moved from a role that was more “coordination, planning, and meetings” to “actually doing the thing that needs to be done” because that’s where I see the value add from technical staff. If I wanted to go the PM route I could have, but chose not to because of my experience with them.
Mocker-Nicholas t1_ivtlxon wrote
“I would like to work from home, show up at 9:00am, never have to talk to an end user, isolate myself from any non technical team in the organization, and also don’t want to learn any front end, back end, or dev ops, technologies”
keano97 t1_ivtomwd wrote
What policies have destroyed the US economy?
Or does it maybe have to do with outside influence like a war and China crippling it's supply chain cause of COVID lock downs?
Also let guess you hate "cancel culture" but appear to be fine with this?
Conservative policies are the death of an economy as they do not invest in the nation's future. Maybe turn off faux news and open a economics book once in a while.
Works in tech therefore progressive is just a ridiculous take.
SpiderFarter t1_ivtss4q wrote
Massive spending, regulations, taxes, crippling energy production for starters.
SpiderFarter t1_ivtsyld wrote
Perhaps you should learn a thing or 2 about economics. But you do you.
[deleted] t1_ivtw8sm wrote
Nah. I respectfully disagree. Social media is literally just a place where people talk and shit. Just like Reddit. People will never stop talking. That’s the only case in which what you said comes true.
[deleted] t1_ivtwe3v wrote
Lack of creativity. Tools don’t mean anything if the person lacks the vision.
realzequel t1_ivtzoij wrote
You're right, but I think Twitter, for instance, is bloated. Though based on what I'm hearing, it sounds like they're doing a terrible job separating the wheat from the chaff.
realzequel t1_ivu0a26 wrote
Microsoft stock is down 28% in the last year. Revenue is fine but it's not doing "rather well" on the market atm.
realzequel t1_ivu1535 wrote
I can't feel too bad for people who work there, facebook sucks, they really amplify hatred and spread misinformation. Their history (privacy/transparency, etc..) is terrible. They took a big hit when Apple stopped them from tracking users (boo-hoo) and a big over-investment in the meta-universe, Zuckerberg admitted to it recently. User interaction is waning terribly, way too many advertisments. All that said, they're just retuning to pre-pandemic headcount. Only good thing is they support the VR industry which I like.
LunaticScience t1_ivu4fgh wrote
The beauty lies in the fact these are all companies that I want to go away.
Deadly_chef t1_ivu4gnf wrote
No. Fuck bad PMs, they can rot
Asterbuster t1_ivu4xxh wrote
Mmm, why people share 'knowledge' about topics they don't know much about. Reddit is fascinating.
AxelNotRose t1_ivu56jy wrote
Such as yourself?
Captain_Periwinkle t1_ivu7dkt wrote
Don’t forget Netflix and Snap
ShinjukuAce t1_ivuew1s wrote
Coinbase is a vehicle for crypto Ponzi schemes. That’s not a real company that produces any actual useful goods and services.
reddit_rar t1_ivuux2v wrote
You're so right...I didn't realize this myself.
Fuck, this post is unworthy of being here
ComposerOne t1_ivuz2fg wrote
I work with a lot of PMs. Our best PM , who just got poached for Google, was deeply technical. They were a data science lead previously. They also had fantastic soft skills (they weren’t a neck beard in a basement, almost sales level soft skills).
elchignacio t1_ivv2h3w wrote
Hard to quantify, but yes, I would consider them part of the tech community. They (used to) hire scads of software engineers, developed the Bootstrap front end framework, among other things.
AxelNotRose t1_ivv2sz4 wrote
Yeah, the tech skills a PM might have are a massive bonus to the function if they're PMing tech projects. They still need those soft-skills though. Without them, they end up drowning, especially in complex projects.
ComposerOne t1_ivvr5jn wrote
Could not agree more.
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h737893 t1_ivvwh6y wrote
:( not everyone can be a star pm
timmeh-eh t1_ivwir4z wrote
Well while I do think that beanie babies were stupid people did actually want them. The challenge Meta is facing here is nobody wants to buy expensive VR hardware so they can have a virtual existence.
Deadly_chef t1_ivx1ct4 wrote
Change careers then, you get no sympathy from me
salitosmbogz t1_ivxcucr wrote
Is there a pinned post on the names of charts commonly posted here?
keano97 t1_ivxdvt3 wrote
The trump admin massively increased deficit spending. And if your refering to the infrastructure bill that will grow the economy. Was building the highways a mistake?
The US is at near record energy production. Gas prices have nothing to do with America. There are massive sanctions on Russia, that is why. Should we just throw Ukraine and it's sovereignty to the side over some slightly more expensive gas. The oil industry is sitting in approved drilling permits cause they like the highly profitable price it currently is at.
What has changed with taxes? Please give me and example of how regular people have to pay more.
What new regulations?
All I see is talking points with no evidence. Non of this has much to do with the Dems.
Name me five policies the republicans have that would help, they haven't named anything except "woke cancel culture" and other buzzwords. Nothing concrete or of any actual meaning.
R3lay0 t1_ivxee3l wrote
>bad pms need jobs too
Is this the UK conservative party's motto?
thurken t1_ivxjzr7 wrote
I guess my comment was unclear. I would be sad to not use or try Android, or other products from Apple, Google, Microsoft. Those companies are building useful things. But I'm glad I don't use products from crypto.com, stripe, peloton, coinbase and so on. With perhaps the exception from WhatsApp (but it feels so remote from Meta and I see or need no difference from the time it was independent from it).
h737893 t1_ivyoi6c wrote
Bad pms could have been good pms when they were younger and are now too old to change careers. :( (
griwulf t1_ivz4rhk wrote
You can actually be worried because the “real” companies are going through some terrible freezes right now.
DigitalEnergyAgency t1_ivzdne8 wrote
Honestly surprising crypto.com has only laid off 30% of it's workforce given the state of the market.
I_am_war_machine t1_iwqvyjg wrote
All these companies either have been getting bad press or their product isn’t as relevant as they were during the pandemic. Peloton is overpriced exercise software that realistically is a fad. Crypto is down because the hype is gone. Meta and twitter are two different jokes with fuckloads of bad press.
PieChartPirate OP t1_ivq8glp wrote
Tools: python, pandas, tkinter, sjvisualizer
Data source: layoffs.fyi