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spider-bro t1_itrl0yt wrote

Cancer? Apple Watch
Contract on your head? Apple Watch Car crash imminent? Apple Watch Teleported to the bottom of the ocean? Apple Watch

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Try_to t1_itrmsl8 wrote

They had apple watches back in the 80s, but we all just said "I've fallen...and I can't get up!?!" as a joke. Here is the original apple watch commercial -.
https://youtu.be/6wEezef9wOU. Maybe the dumb ass doctor should learn proper power washing techniques.

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chinmaya2 t1_itrnm0p wrote

What was that old saying? Something about an apple watch a day keeping the doctor away?

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funkboxing t1_itrnoq3 wrote

>Dr. Ficho was wearing his Apple Watch Series 5 while power washing bricks on the side of his house. To reach higher, he decided to use the cover on the window as a step. But once he stepped on it, the cover slipped and he “plunged five feet into the basement egress well” and lost consciousness.

He should also recommend not doing that.

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IamAFlaw t1_itrqyy2 wrote

He's a crazy apple person...

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MightySmizmar t1_itrrbkf wrote

>He recalled a patient who stepped out of the shower, fell in her bathroom, broke her hip and could not get up. Her body was found three days later.

“All she needed was a watch,” Ficho said, wishing the technology had existed at the time.

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Who wears their watch in the shower? That's about the only time I don't wear mine.

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A_Snips t1_itrs0m9 wrote

Replying to MightySmizmar (#226,059)

I feel like it'd still be cheaper to put some kind of voice activated smart device everywhere at that point. Or just the bathroom, one of the most fall prone places in a home.

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TheSpatulaOfLove t1_itrsm6r wrote

Great! Don’t send your bill and I’ll get right on it!

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Segal27 t1_itruiez wrote

This is crazy because this is about my Doctor.

The past 2 times I have seen him he has told me the story, I guarantee he will the next time too. He immediately noticed I was wearing my Apple Watch too. Just really weird seeing this story here.

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GrayCS t1_itrv9kb wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#226,023)

it's not new but it's kinda scary how far advertising is willing to go. i remember youtube content about people trying to do frontflips into jeans - turns out it was made by jean manufacturers.

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actionguy87 t1_itrva8m wrote

This subreddit is ruined. It's literally just propaganda-tier Apple marketing. Sad to see.

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domambrose96 t1_itryff5 wrote

Another Apple Watch promotion on this subreddit smh

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Narberal_Delta t1_its28gj wrote

i had a relative whose apple watch warned him three times of abnormal heart rhythm. He called his doctor’s office and was told not to worry and how those things weren’t accurate. An hour later he dropped dead of a heart attack.

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LockCL t1_its6jbz wrote

A tad expensive for everyone.

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wwonka105 t1_its7wrw wrote

The watch reported to have an 18 hour "life" in between charges. Would love to be able to use it to track sleep and monitor things during the day, but apparently you can't do both.

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SirBrownHammer t1_its8t4b wrote

Replying to MightySmizmar (#226,059)

When I’m in a rush, I wear it in the shower so I’m aware of how much time has past. Otherwise i’ll end up daydreaming whilst the warm water surrounds my naked body, giving me the oh so distant yet familiar feeling of a close embrace.

I also make sure to turn on water mode beforehand so I can eject any water out that might have gotten inside.

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Dreadnought9 t1_its9lm5 wrote

If he prescribes it, will my health insurance cover it?

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Mitthrawnuruo t1_itscckb wrote

As a paramedic:

By your old family members an Apple Watch.

99% of medical alarms are false trips. Not only do they piss us off, generate paperwork, and sometimes a bill, we respond like they are the low priority calls they are.

Medical alarm companies almost never give us the information they have on file, or make an effort to determine if it is an accidental activation.

And one way or the other; we’re getting in the residence to make sure it wasn’t a real activation. If that means smashing a door/window, that is going to happen.

Which sucks when it went off because the person went to church and forgot to turn off the “no motion sensor”, or because it got remotely reactivated…and the patient is still in the hospital.

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Mitthrawnuruo t1_itsd12a wrote

Replying to Pushmonk (#227,124)

Life alert doesn’t have fall detection, and is almost always false activations.

Guess how many false activations it takes to get blacklisted from a 911 response. I’ve seen it be as few as 3.

And one way or the other, EMS is getting in. Deaf person doesn’t hear the doorbell, Knocking at 2 am? Unless they let their house unlocked, shit is getting broke to get in.

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starkmatic t1_itsd7ht wrote

Which Apple Watch should I get my parents so they get this benefit. Do all of them have the ability?

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Sir_Squirly t1_itsg054 wrote

Dr’s are notoriously narrow sighted… cardiologists will recommend all sorts of shit that the psychiatrist will 100% say not to do. Like… “Apple Watch helps monitor my heart! Must be good!” Psychiatrist “yeah… checking your watch every 8 seconds to see who liked your post, or checking your pulse is going to give you massive anxiety, we suggest you keep technology off your body, so your mind can rest”

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esteroberto t1_itshc7p wrote

Does any of the competition have the same features?

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Jorycle t1_itsihkv wrote

9to5 is really going all out on these Apple health ads, I mean articles. This is like the 10th one I've seen since Sunday.

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fullAthal t1_itsj9uo wrote

Sad that people have become so lonely that the only way they can get help is when their watch sends a notification

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AbsoluteZeroUnit t1_itsmj7p wrote

Replying to Mitthrawnuruo (#228,458)

life alert doesn't call 911, though. It puts you in touch with their dispatchers who can then call 911.

If it's a false activation, they respond and you say "Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction. But, everything's perfectly alright now. We're... fine. We're all fine here now. Thank you. How are you?" Then they ask for your operating number and you shoot the control panel.

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AbsoluteZeroUnit t1_itsn1nz wrote

So this doctor does a dumb ass thing by climbing on his window because the ladder won't reach, and his advice is "buy a watch" instead of "don't climb on your window"?

And then later on, he explains that an apple watch could have saved the life of someone who slipped in the shower? One of the few times we're almost guaranteed to take off all our clothes, jewelry, and accessories?

doctor is a crazy apple person.

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murius t1_itsoa6s wrote

Replying to Narberal_Delta (#227,273)

When Apple watch was relatively new I was at the office and one of the guys was stressed, yelling and going off to himself about some project which is common for him to do ... Then he suddenly stops yelling mid sentence ... A few seconds later we hear him quietly say "my apple watch says I have an elevated heart rate and I need to relax".

We all cracked up so bad.

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Tobi1107 t1_itsopui wrote

Replying to dgchoux (#229,245)

Same, I have a Series 3 which is definitely not fast charging but still manage to wear it basically all day and night. I usually charge when showering and maybe 30 min before going to bed (for example when laying down and reading a book, not much activity to track for the watch so I don’t miss anything).

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rammo123 t1_itspaq5 wrote

Replying to funkboxing (#225,655)

There's something about professionals that they often turn their brains off when they're off the clock. I work in the oil industry and the site workers are in full fireproof overalls, steel cap boots, hard hat and safety glasses. But then they go home and mow the lawns in sandals.

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ram1583 t1_itsrj4w wrote

Replying to Mitthrawnuruo (#228,490)

I went to several cardiologists who didn’t interpret my ekg readings correctly. Apple Watch told me I had an issue and needed to go to emergency room. I listened and they admitted me right away after discovering I had grade 3 heart block and had to get a pace maker put in. So yeah. At this point I trust gadgets better then some cardiologists.

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Ashmodai20 t1_itss5rc wrote

I would never subject an individual to an Apple product.

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[deleted] t1_itssu04 wrote

Replying to SomewhatIntriguing (#226,130)

Honestly most specialized people are usually shit at other “normal” stuff. I work with Doctors, Engineers, Lawyers, and other specialized professionals who are all really good at what they do.

Most of them struggle with basic things that us normies must know.

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obi-whine-kenobi t1_itst5qk wrote

Replying to dgchoux (#229,245)

Same. I wear my watch to sleep every night. Between charging when I shower, when I’m cooking and sometimes when I’m sitting my my desk working, I’ve never had the watch die on me. I use it often for running too. Ran my first marathon with the Apple Watch.

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tylamb19 t1_itstdb5 wrote

Replying to rammo123 (#230,025)

Had an electrician buddy of mine come over to take a look at a couple weird electrical things in my house.

Queue him trying to flip a 240V oven outlet right side up as the previous electrician put it in upside down (which was why my oven wouldn’t go back against the wall). I ask him if he wants me to turn off the oven breaker. He goes “nah, I’ll be alright” and I shit you not, 5 seconds later there’s a massive bang and his hands are covered in black soot and the wall has the same all over it.

He just goes “Well, it’s off now!!”

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Narberal_Delta t1_itsttaq wrote

Replying to Mitthrawnuruo (#228,490)

honestly while there’s some art to looking at the EKG it’s not the most complicated bit of cardiology. this is one of those things that can be more automated than it traditionally is. It takes longer to wire you up than it does to take the reading and the patterns have never struck me as so complex as to be beyond machine learning.

while it’s not a replacement for a specialist it’s good enough to say “something is seriously wrong go to the ER right now!”

I wish my cousin had done that, his death was a tragedy. One of the more decent human beings I’ve known.

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Jimothy_Tomathan t1_itsv763 wrote

A few months ago, I read a comment here on reddit saying Apple can no longer pitch themselves as innovative, since competitors are now able to introduce new features to their phones and watches that aren't garbage and Apple can no longer sit on the sidelines and refine those features before adding them to their products and claiming that they invented them, so now they've pivoted their marketing to essentially arguing that you need their products for your own safety or you'll probably die. He/she was spot on.

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Mitthrawnuruo t1_itsw1xh wrote

Replying to ram1583 (#230,278)

A third degree hard block is pretty obvious. Any ER doc, paramedic, or cardiologist could recognize it.

I suspect strongly, that you were not in a third degree block when they took the EKGs. Heart rhythms can be variable.

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Mediumcomputer t1_itsw7ws wrote

They’re biggest selling point is the battery lasts more than 24 hours. Like, how long does a normal watch last? The Apple Watch I got my wife has huge gaps in data and gaps in data means bad science. The gaps occur because the damn thing dies every day or so. So it goes all day for two days and then loses sleep tracking or whatnot? Please stop adding features and bloat and keep the battery to a month minimum.

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screwswithshrews t1_itswd24 wrote

Replying to rammo123 (#230,025)

I think OSHA's risk tolerance for me is lower than that I have for myself.

If you have a 0.1% chance of losing a toe for mowing the lawn in flip flops, eh whatever.

From OSHA's perspective, if 100,000 people individually have a 0.1% chance of losing a toe, that's a problem.

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Starblast22 t1_itswjpl wrote

goofy way to try and push apple watches

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Mitthrawnuruo t1_itswsdc wrote

Replying to Narberal_Delta (#230,544)

Although I support the tech and hope it does well….30,000 dollar heart monitors routinely misdiagnose heart rhythms, especially acute changes.

I consider cardiology (not the basic stuff, stemis, blocks, etc etc) but the stuff in the weeds one of the harder parts of being a paramedic.

And I’d trust a paramedics interpretation way before a machines, at this point.

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LaPakawaka t1_itsymg1 wrote

Replying to starkmatic (#228,476)

4 and above, including the newer SE have fall detection, heartrate monitor, and ECG. Will also keep track of their daily activities standing, walking, exercise.

I think 8 has temp detection.

No need to pay for the 8 ultra unless you are climbing Everest IMO. Not worth the price just for Health monitoring.

Edit to add: I find the walking and standing reminders are great for avoiding clots that can lead to strokes if they sit or lay down too much.

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pacwess t1_itt4o7m wrote

"He recalled a patient who stepped out of the shower, fell in her bathroom, broke her hip and could not get up. Her body was found three days later."

So let's be honest. Who showers with their Apple watch, or any smartwatch for that matter?

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tourette_unicorn t1_ittal6w wrote

Replying to murius (#229,872)

I had a baby in April, got my Apple Watch on my birthday in January. It determined that for two weeks after I had my baby, my average resting heart rate changed, and notified me. I was amazed because the rate of change began on my baby’s birthdate.

It’s also notified me that I’ve had a higher heart rate and asked if I was okay on two separate occasions. Once after getting my tetanus vaccine, when I was running a fever, and the other time was when I had Covid. It was my first symptom and I didn’t even know it until my watch notified me. Pretty cool technology, in my opinion!

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Nine_Eye_Ron t1_ittba3p wrote

My doc isn’t interested in my health dats but encourages me to use it “in a healthy way”.

A good pamphlet would help…

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spider-bro t1_ittbbno wrote

Replying to UsecMyNuts (#229,632)

“beep beep beep!”

“Holy shit what’s that thing on my wrist!?”

“Today is 9/11”

“Thanks …”

“That’s when the world trade center towers get knocked down my kamikaze passenger jets”

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Jasonrj t1_ittdr9b wrote

Replying to Narberal_Delta (#227,273)

How old was he? Did he have other risk factors?

I get an abnormal rhythm on occasion. Sometimes just a few seconds off and on for a few minutes or an hour and then not again for weeks or a few years.

After 18 years of not really knowing what was happening I caught an abnormal rhythm alert while taking my blood pressure last month.

I told my doctor and he set me up with a portable heart monitor I'm currently wearing for a few weeks. It happens so infrequently I was worried it wouldn't happen while I had the monitor but I logged several events yesterday. Hoping it's just stress/anxiety and not more serious.

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Agent_Paul_UIU t1_itti3oo wrote

Replying to MightySmizmar (#226,059)

I wear my watch during showers. It's an amazfit tho, with no fall detection. But it can tell me what was my heart rate and how many calories i burned while trying to crawl to the bedroom for my phone to call an ambulance with a broken hip... Which is nice i guess.

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vahid83 t1_itti4a6 wrote

Ads are getting smarter!

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cerreur t1_ittif0t wrote

Every single article from 9to5mac.com I see coming by here is just basically jerking off the ghost of Steve Jobs.

What's the next article: An iPad will save your marriage and cure cancer?

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wreakon t1_ittioet wrote

Fuck astroturfing / advertising through bullshit clickbait

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themightymoron t1_ittjodn wrote

it's a useful device sure. it's the anti consumer and control freak nature of that company that i absolutely loathe.

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DavinaCole t1_ittjtax wrote

6 EKGs and 2 48 hr holters did not catch my heart arrhythmia. My Apple Watch did. I agree it’s a must.

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davtruss t1_ittl30j wrote

I totally get this, but in some ways it's no different than the old "Life Alert" commercials: "I've fallen and I can't get up!"

I'm sure there are many circumstances where time is critical to survival, but in a lot of those circumstances, an Apple Watch wouldn't help.

I come from a family where people die suddenly (my father, from an obvious second heart attack), my sister (who died in her sleep with no previous diagnosed illness) and my brother, (who had just been given a clean bill of health before he dropped dead getting out of bed).

I suppose alerts about their vitals may have given them more warning and time, but in all three cases, the emergency was over by the time help arrived.

To be fair, the first two were alone at the time and the third had a wife who couldn't possibly have been expected to provide CPR.

Meh...maybe I'm jaded.

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Doidy_Cakes t1_ittmcro wrote

Who wears a watch in the shower?

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Rubentje7777 t1_ittmiyk wrote

So many Apple watch ads, it's crazy.

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Glad_Lychee_180 t1_itto524 wrote

The article said the watch saved his life. Not true. He didn’t even need a paramedic.

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snoopyh42 t1_ittu4cq wrote

The low heart rate sensor on the Apple Watch may well have saved my Mom’s life.

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Upintheair84 t1_ittzpwg wrote

Apple really is investing a lot of money into the advertising

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thomasthetanker t1_ittzqlz wrote

Cue ambulances dispatched 10 times per day to site of rollercoaster.

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Bucket1982 t1_itu00tz wrote

Can’t believe the new one is $1700 It’s not worth it.

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PuertoDrummer t1_itu38n9 wrote

I crashed while riding my bike late September and my Apple Watch (series 7 with cellular) texted my emergency contact and was about to call 911, until I stopped it; I didn’t hit my head and was conscious, otherwise, the watch would’ve probably saved my life. I also have a Garmin 530 on the bike and it also has this feature, but I disabled it because once the bike fell after leaning it against a wall and it texted my emergency contact for an hour before I realized it.

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StevynTheHero t1_itu3yqa wrote

Replying to davtruss (#233,420)

No, you are right on the money. All these threads we are seeing is just advertisement. The same way commercials make you think their product will make you successful, attractive, and otherwise enhance your entire life, when in reality, it does absolutely nothing that probably wasn't already being done.

But because this isn't a TV ad and is a Reddit thread, people think it's real testimony and therefore must be true.

It's just new advertising. But that's all it is. I'll be happier and healthier without this device.

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tren_rivard t1_itu4i5h wrote

Replying to Sir_Squirly (#228,894)

It's entirely possible to have a watch that monitors your heart rate, and to not check it all the time and get anxious about it. The behaviours don't really come as a package deal.

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Mitthrawnuruo t1_itu970t wrote

Replying to justgetoffmylawn (#232,316)

Cool. So it is outperforming students. In telehealth network.

In a 3rd world country.

Additionally the article goes on to make several errors. I quote: “the S12L-ECG can provide a full evaluation of the cardiac electrical activity.”

This is not true. 15 lead EKGs are and have been for over decade a standard of care, especially if concern for a right sided MI, utilizing V4r, V5r, v6R. Then you have your 18 or more lead EKGs, that look at the posterior wall MIs.

Additionally, when you did farther. It becomes how simplistic the program is.

the S12L-ECG can provide a full evaluation of the cardiac electrical activity.

It only detects 6 “ abNormalities”: but when we break it down, only one even requires medical treatment based on the EKG, and the only other one that require treatment can be treated based solely on physical assessment.

First degree heart block. Sounds bad, but it just means it takes slightly longer for the electrical activity from the above AV node to travel through and below the AV node. It is an incidental finding. It isn’t treated, monitored,’or concerning.

Sinus tachycardia: drink to much Red Bull today? Go for a jog? Your in sinus tachycardia. It is just a normal sinus rhythm over >100. It isn’t concerning, and it isn’t treated (although the condition that caused it, such as pain; or dehydration, might be).

Sinus bradycardia: again, just a normal sinus rhythm, but slower then 60. It isn’t treated unless a person is symptomatic. IE; lightheaded or dizzy. Having chest pain due to hypotension. But you don’t need an EKG to tell you that. You could just take a pulse. Honesty, a pulse and blood pressure are more important. Treatment could be done entirely without an EKG, although cardiac monitoring would be preferable. You fix it with atropine, or you fix it would electrical stimulation (pacing)

Right and left BBB mean nothing, other then the normal electrical activity /pathway is abnormal. A LBBB makes it much harder to diagnose a STEMI (large heart attack) on the EKG.

There is a way to spot a mI on a patient with a LBBB, but I’ve read about it, studied it and can’t recognition it when I see it. I’m apparently not the only one; as the AHA recommendation is to treat it like. A heart attack unless is it KNOWN the patient has had a LBBB.

I don’t know anyplace that does this.

So….of those rhythms, only A-fib really la concern and gets treated. With blood thinners, and of course rate control.

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Vanpotheosis t1_itub8x0 wrote

This entire sub is dedicated to Apple products.

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tupisac t1_ituc0co wrote

Replying to Teddy_Icewater (#231,861)

Probably.

I mow in flip flops and don't give a shit. But when I have to put my hands anywhere near those blades - for cleaning, sharpening or whatever - I ALWAYS disconnect the sparkplug first.

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Sethazora t1_ituf6cp wrote

Doctor who is a crazy apple person claims to not be a crazy apple person.

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pacwess t1_itv8ip4 wrote

Apple Watch saves human from dying from being a dumbass.
Also if this assclown of a doctor isn't a "crazy Apple person" but going to recommend the Apple watch to older patients, perhaps he should also recommend the walk steadiness monitoring in the Apple health app.

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CraftArchitect t1_itvf9z3 wrote

If a trained medical doctor tells me to get an apple watch, im walking right out the door.

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Sir_Squirly t1_itzjzlf wrote

Replying to tren_rivard (#234,948)

The Dr “I recommend the life saving APPLE WATCH to every patient”. He isn’t recommending a fit bit, he’s pushing apple tech, so no, you’re wrong, and my point stands.

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