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rchrdcrg t1_iuoia6e wrote

Place your bets on how long before we see a Techmoan video on it! 🥰

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tguru t1_iuoot40 wrote

Finally I can send my analog audio over Bluetooth on the go! /s

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ryan2one3 t1_iuop3qv wrote

Perfect for my camping trips!

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zoinkability t1_iuotlag wrote

Was hoping this would be a linear tracking TT like the Sony portables but alas. Still fun to see a resurrection.

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Lucky-Carrot t1_iup0g1x wrote

Replying to Mk38 (#421,836)

The difference is that analog doesn’t perfectly recreate a digital media so there’s valid reasons to use film or records. There’s no reason to use a digital medium other than the most portable or durable format assuming equal quality of output

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mittelwerk t1_iup47zo wrote

Sony, now it's your turn: ressurect the Flamingo (a.k.a. PS-F5/F9)

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Luce55 t1_iupdzfv wrote

Replying to mix3dnuts (#421,679)

There is one advantage of physical media over digital….you’ll have it even if the digital media giants go dark/close up shop. Even if the electric grid goes down, you can still hook up a wire to a solar panel (simplified example for sake of argument) and play your record player, or what have you. If you have the physical book, you can read it whether you have internet access or not, electricity or not.

There’s something to be said for that.

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LibraryUserOfBooks t1_iupkws5 wrote

What do you think the quality on this thing will be like? And how limited edition?

Did you see their crystal record player?

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sambolino44 t1_iupob2p wrote

I had one of the originals back in the 1980s when I was in the Marine Corps. I didn’t have a lot of room for a stereo, and this fit into my locker. Sound quality was not great, but certainly good enough to learn songs.

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Shillforbigusername t1_iupoefw wrote

Replying to Lucky-Carrot (#421,990)

I wonder how much longer this is going to matter. For audio, sample rates and bit depths are so high that the only real constraints left are storage space and streaming capacity. I honestly wouldn’t even believe someone if they said they could tell the difference between an analog recording and it’s 192k / 32b transfer.

But I suppose analog will always have a place, though, because analog mediums - whether it’s 2-inch tape or vinyl - color the sound in a way that most people find pleasant, even if they aren’t consciously aware of it.

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whales-are-assholes t1_iupptox wrote

Replying to mix3dnuts (#423,331)

You just used sales figures to prove your point - as if multiple technologies (physical and digital) can’t coexist.

And what happens if say, Apple pulls their licensing agreement? You lose everything you’ve “purchased,” because you don’t actually own the product you purchased. With physical media, you at least own and can access it in perpetuity.

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mix3dnuts t1_iupr6br wrote

Replying to whales-are-assholes (#423,407)

Wrong, you don't, because you can still download that media and save it on another medium. You do own that "copy" that license gives you access to.

No where did I state multiple technologies can't exist, I explicitly said you can't compare analog vs digital exactly because they are different. Vinyl and other analog mediums will have their specific use case against digital.

When we're talking in the same medium space, sales and use does dictate in common language, obsolescence. We're not talking in absolutes here.

The same advantage you state with physical copies you can have with downloaded copies, because it's all digital, and that's my whole point. Downloaded media can be saved to physical copy for backups if need be. The world we live in now is built for downloaded/over the cloud media, we don't have physical digital readers on the majority of our technology for a reason.

Lastly whatever safety you get from physical medium gets demolished by saving that same -digital- copy on a flash nand drive. More robust & more accessible

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bigsquirrel t1_iuprcxa wrote

Replying to Luce55 (#422,746)

I mean if you’re going the solar panel route an MP3 player takes a hell of a lot less energy than record player and can hold more music that you could ever reasonably carry in a physical format. It’s an odd comparison.

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mix3dnuts t1_iupt2yy wrote

Replying to whales-are-assholes (#423,515)

...what does that have to do with what I'm saying. Just like a physical copy, if the makers go out of business or decide to stop selling the product you won't have access to GETTING it anymore. Once you have access, make a copy. I don't need iTunes to playback my already downloaded media.

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mattogeewha t1_iupvfw8 wrote

Now THIS is news…. For the oldies

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Luce55 t1_iupy340 wrote

Replying to bigsquirrel (#423,488)

I mean…the original post is about a record player but….sure. MP3 player works as well, better, whatever.

Still, I personally can’t actually find my old MP3 player from a million years ago but I know exactly where my record player is, so based on ease of locating, record player wins lol.

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bigsquirrel t1_iupyhjr wrote

Replying to Luce55 (#423,792)

Cell phone that plays mp3s? Just pointing out that the advantage of using a solar panels to power a record player is a little odd. As is the tech giants thing. None of that is really a thing. I have copies of my digital music locally and literally have a tiny device on me at all times that can easily be powered with a very small solar panel to play mp3s for days.

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Luce55 t1_iupz5j5 wrote

Replying to bigsquirrel (#423,816)

I don’t disagree with you; I was merely pointing out that there is still an advantage to having physical media. If you have downloaded your music or whatnot, you own it, and so as long as you have power (unless books - you don’t need power for books) you will always have access to it. But, many people listen to music, watch movies, read books based on subscriptions/rentals. In which case, if, as I said, the services go kaput, you’re SOL on the media you enjoyed previously.

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brickmaster32000 t1_iuq0p59 wrote

Replying to Lucky-Carrot (#421,990)

You've got a faulty inference there. Digital media being unable to perfectly replicate analog media, which whithin a limited bandwidth it actually can do perfectly, does not imply that it is worse than analog media because analog media has its own set of limitations and distortions that digital media doesn't suffer from.

If your goal is to recreate the actual sound you would hear if you were in the room you are going to be better off with a good digital file. If however your goal is to replicate the sound as it would be distorted by a record and record player then yes, using a record would be the better option.

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mudkic t1_iuq206x wrote

That is simply awesome lol from an old guy this gold.lol

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willstr1 t1_iuq8ife wrote

Replying to Luce55 (#422,746)

Physical and digital are not mutually exclusive. Streaming definitely has its risks but CDs and DVDs are digital and physical and can work as long as you have a device that can play them (just like a record) they also have higher quality (from all quantitative measures) and are more robust physically

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erix84 t1_iuqcyqh wrote

Replying to chaiteataichi_ (#424,413)

I bought cassette tapes as a kid and then CDs in the 90s / early 2000s... Was born too late to really have experience with records aside from seeing them on my mom's stereo setup and looking at the art on the front.

I think the last CD i bought was at least 10 years ago, don't even have a CD player any more.... Bought a record player and a pair of bookshelf speakers and I'm up to about 10 records with a couple more on the way. Streaming is great on the go and in the car, but at home it's nice to throw on a record i own, you get the album art way bigger than cassette tapes or CDs, they sound unique, and it's just a cool experience i missed out on but am glad they're making a comeback.

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chaiteataichi_ t1_iuqd2xh wrote

Replying to erix84 (#424,478)

It’s also a way to show others your music tastes. People don’t really look through digital libraries (though I do remember scrolling through friends iPods) but records are a great way to share interests in taste

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a_glorious_bass-turd t1_iuqf19u wrote

It was my understanding that back in the day they could damage your records. I wonder if any of those previous issues have been addressed.

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SaladAssKing t1_iuqf29q wrote

Sound burger…sounds like someone trying not to say queef but alluding to it.

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back_bithces t1_iuqgqsj wrote

I wanna see DankPods review this lol

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PlaguesAngel t1_iuqiqa6 wrote

Replying to a_glorious_bass-turd (#424,661)

#1 thing to damage records in use are shit Stylus. Also I personally don’t trust anything without a full platter, the potential for wobble just invites a stylus to interact poorly with your media surface.

Edit: apparently I’ve never once typed a hashtag symbol in Reddit mobile? Didn’t realize it was for doing the text LOUDS.

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ArcaneGadget t1_iuqt3qe wrote

I almost want to bet that it's either going to be a cheap p.o.s. that damages your records, or it's going to be outrageously expensive.

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pyrilampes t1_iuqu317 wrote

You could mount that thing on a wall or possibly vertically, Add a disco ball finish or just bedazzled it

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weizXR t1_iuqyn3k wrote

Replying to squipple (#422,798)

>easy access to a turntable at the time.

Like, at the time or purchase before they get home? Or to test out something they found at a garage sale, etc.?

I certainly can see potential uses; I'm just wondering what you had in mind.

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Caboozel t1_iuqyqtz wrote

The “Sound-wich” would have been a better name

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synthsucht t1_iur2dv3 wrote

It’s literally just a gadget. A thing you buy because you think it’s cool and put away after a weekend. There’s plenty of second hand record players looking for a new home. Do we really need more trash? 🌍

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Teamnoq t1_iur2gji wrote

Mmmmhhhhh a Sound Burger, it’s delicious!

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howliehowls t1_iur6dgs wrote

Please god no this is a record killer

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4myoldGaffer t1_iurawb7 wrote

Replying to Natothedog (#426,335)

If you want to play a record more than once, you must regress to the beginning of the album.

Hopefully your opinion is revolving as you begin to scratch the surface of the joke

Silly

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InfernalCombustion t1_iurdpjv wrote

Replying to Lucky-Carrot (#425,213)

Audio mastered for analog formats also has a lot of limitations.

Examine the vinyl record for example. Audio is encoded through grooves on a physical surface which is then read by a needle travelling at a constant speed.

Firstly, the physical size of the needle limits what you can decode. You can't have peaks or valleys that are too close to each other, otherwise the needle will just skip over them. You also can't have transitions that are too steep.

Digital actually makes everything closer to "intended" sounds, because you can eliminate so many physical and mechanical factors.

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bglkjk t1_iurl2xu wrote

That’s actually so cool.

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pack_howitzer t1_iurlavp wrote

Mr. Disk - the turntable no bigger than a man’s shoe!

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OldingDownTheFort t1_iurlzk8 wrote

Replying to whales-are-assholes (#421,537)

I think that the physicality of the object is as much reason as quality or any other metrics.

People want to own stuff again, not just “a data record in a database somewhere says that I have access to it”.

When you have space to own physical objects, the convenience of fast access becomes less desirable than possessing a concrete object.

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RockeTim t1_iurnt8c wrote

Replying to Natothedog (#426,335)

Cloud computing! In the early days of computers (40s, 50s) they were the size of a small house and insanely expensive - to make computers more accessible to schools, businesses, universities, libraries, etc... they used terminals. Terminals were dumb - basically a glorified kvms - keyboard, monitor, and that was it - no real capabilities or storage - and they connected to the remote computers for all computation. Fast-forward to today. Chromebooks, and game streaming services, are the same idea. You don't need a powerful computer with lots of storage and powerful GPU. All the work is done on a remote computer - and our device acts basically a glorified kvm just like the early days of terminal computing.

Edit: typos

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torangejuice t1_iurqui9 wrote

Replying to PlaguesAngel (#424,722)

The AT3600L is a fine cart and won’t “damage” your records. It’s not the best, but it’s far from being “bad”. It’s the stock cart on Rega P1 & P2.

Vinyl records are a fun way to discover music for me, and this thing will be great for previewing old $2 records (which, I’m sure have never had a bad stylus dropped on them…) at local stores without hogging the preview table.

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sirenesea t1_ius2l0s wrote

Coming soon to Urban Outfitters

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jnemesh t1_ius7kcm wrote

Replying to TSMKFail (#427,599)

And sometimes, the label insists on overly compressing the CD and digital formats, while allowing the artist to have uncompressed audio on vinyl. Red Hot Chile Peppers is a perfect example. Go listen to just about any of their albums on CD, then listen on vinyl. In the end, it's all about how well the album is mixed and if compression is (over) used.

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jnemesh t1_iusef57 wrote

Personally, I shudder at the thought of good vinyl being ruined by this cheap junk. I wouldn't recommend ANYONE buy one of these, other than for the novelty.

Let me just say this about vinyl:

Some purists will insist that vinyl gives you better sound quality than CD or digital formats. This has been thoroughly debunked. It does sound DIFFERENT, and some people like those differences. But CDs and/or digital will have a higher dynamic range and more bass response, among other things.

That being said, there is a lot to say for vinyl. A well pressed and well mastered recording will sound INCREDIBLE on even a modestly priced table (say $500-$900)...and people "grok" how records work a lot more than how a CD or digital file is decoded. It's pretty straightforward...better turntables have more stability, better control over the speed, a better stylus that sits deeper in the grooves, etc. Each upgrade you make has a marked improvement in the sound.

Conversely, upgrading CD or digital playback is pretty much a "black box" to anyone without a deep understanding of electronics and digital audio. Try explaining to a friend how an outboard DAC works, or why a multibit DAC will usually sound better than a delta/sigma DAC. Yeaaaaaah...about that....

One other thing going for vinyl is that it is, BY FAR, the most stable format for long term storage. You can buy albums from the 50s (or even earlier!) that will sound as good today as the day they were pressed. The same can not be said for CDs, which degrade over time. (try playing a CD made in the mid 80s...you might get lucky, but most will be unplayable after 15-20 years), and we don't even know how other digital storage formats will hold up long term. I wouldn't bet money on a SSD or flash drive being usable in 20 years! (tape backup is pretty stable, and there are more exotic digital storage methods available, but none commonly in use that will hold up over extended time).

Finally, there is something to be said for OWNING a copy of the music you love...as well as the physical format itself. LARGE cover art, liner notes, photos, etc...all of these things contribute to the experience of enjoying the music, and many have mourned the loss when moving from the rather large album covers on vinyl to the dinky (in comparison) art on a CD case....and all of those little "extras" got stripped out along the way as well.

All of that being said, there is no need to be snobby about the hobby, or to make it into something it's not. I seriously enjoy putting a record on from time to time, but I also enjoy plenty of streamed music too. As long as you are enjoying THE MUSIC, you are "doing it right"!

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Quack_Candle t1_iusht8q wrote

That’s so strange - yesterday I was trying to buy one of the originals on eBay

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Ok_Dependent1131 t1_iusll8m wrote

Does this have anti skip like my old portable CD player?

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BrokenforD t1_iusls6m wrote

If you care about the condition of your vinyl DO NOT USE THIS PIECE OF SHIT. The original model ate the grooves in records before. I can’t imaging they’ve made it any better. Use at you own risk. New vinyl is to damn expensive.

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RA12220 t1_iutlqa2 wrote

Replying to tguru (#421,253)

Actually…(and I know audiophiles will come after me) records have that warm feeling in part due to the sound mixing requirements of the limitations of vinyl. So…someone could have a valid reason to play vinyl over Bluetooth

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Epsilon748 t1_iuudfcv wrote

Replying to BrokenforD (#429,213)

> Ate the grooves in records

No it didn't. It uses a decent quality AT cart and has fairly low tracking force. This isn't a Crosley. I've had a vintage one for years and this is just BS from people who have never used one and just go "portable player must be shit"

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alphaxion t1_iuulaoi wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#423,654)

He goes a bit into the history and talks about the form of the player a bit. It's likely a review of this device will be very similar to the one he did in the video I linked. As in, it wouldn't really be worth his time to make another video on the same subject.

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FuriousGeorge50 t1_iuvq67z wrote

All things old became modern again since they showed their durability and quality. We went slightly upwards and sideways in audio quality, but dropped down in build.

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kvetcha-rdt t1_iuvsera wrote

Replying to Caboozel (#425,564)

It was apparently sold as ‘Mister Disc’ in the US because Sound Burger was seen as too silly. But with the clarity of time we now understand that Sound Burger is the greatest product name ever.

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kingela t1_iuvzgjp wrote

Replying to tguru (#421,253)

Nothing weird about this at all, almost every single recording made in a professional studio will have been put through lots of analog gear. Distributing the final result digitally doesn’t change those added sonic qualities since modern digital audio tech is almost completely transparent.

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SAAA2011 t1_iuzon8w wrote

Damn, I'm glad I ordered mine in time.

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