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Technically speaking, the Aria is technically better at what it does than the XM4

I'm not sure what you're looking for is technicality if you consider the XM4 to be better than the Aria. If you're looking for soundstage, IEMs are the wrong way to go entirely. Try giving the Aria more time for mental burn in.

I agree. Anything you perceive as better about the xm4 is just preference. In that case you just have to try stuff out until you find what you like

Soundstage is not something IEMs shine in. You may get a little better separation in higher-end models but the upgrade in that regard is marginal.

I would look into multi-driver IEMs that can achieve a better treble extension and thus a better sense of clarity, space and separation. Under $100 you have the Truthear Hexa and for around $350 you have the Moondrop Blessing 2 (I recommend the Dusk version), thought if you plan to spend that amount I would encourage you to save a little more and go with the Moondrop Variations (a reference in sound and arguably the best "objective" tuning).

The Moondrop Aria is harman-neutral to warm/dark in tuning, that's why you may sense it to sound congested and not detailed enough.

Technically and preference, that's true, but i am actually looking for a sound profile

like XM4, no ear fatigue, added usb audio pro on my android and its really good.

Yes i agree with the neutral to warm/dark , do you have any other recommendation aside from the Moondrop brands?

Might try to listen to it little longer, however, when i first have my XM4 i was blown away. With Aria, its sounds just like the same IEMs i had before, yes some details there but when all instruments are on, some details cant be heard, and that's not the case with XM4, probably its just a preference however i am actually looking for recommendations of IEMs like XM4 sound characteristics.

Not really, at least not something I would recommend.

Though I would encourage you to learn to understand frequency response graphs, so you can make more informed and conscious purchases and not rely only on subjective impressions that can vary widely and not end up meeting your expectations.

There are a lot of factors that can be affecting your IEMs. The seal of the tips for one. Their tuning, and also the source. First of all tuning wise, Moondrop is not known for bass in the budget area. It is only their more expensive models like the Dusk and Variations that have a more present bass. If you are liking the sound of the xm4 more, then something with more bass to consider is the FiiO FHE, and the IE300. One of my favorite sets that performs well with any genre is the Xenns Mangird Tea 2.

The other thing to consider is the source. From the phone alone you will get descent sound. But IEMs tend to scale with more power. Which DAC are you getting? Give the Aria a chance again with the DAC, and if possible, through s balanced cable. You might hear a difference if the DAC has some good power. If not, give those other IEMs a try and you might like their sound profile better.

Try boosting 10k with an EQ before you commit to a new purchase.
If it doesn't help, then maybe lifting the top octave.

If you want soundstage, then you should try CIEMs. They have the best ambience. You can try custom tips on the pair that you already have.

The only thing I own so far that I find better than the XM4’s are the Senny ie600. I also have the ie300, but they are more bass forward and not as clean as the XM4 in my opinion. Nothing beats the ie600 for me so far, including my 660s over ears….. for my personal taste.

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IEMs don't dabble in soundstage and you should never buy an IEM for Soundstage... So from your request of wanting a set that is warm and non fatiguing, the only non fatiguing IEM under $200 is the Final Audio E4000.

Link - https://audio46.com/products/final-audio-e4000-hi-res-earphones

Actually what i thought as well but with xm4 the soundstage is really sufficient for me. Any recom for around 300- 400?

Way over my budget for ie600. Glad to know someone appreciates and own xm4.

The 10k at highj volume really is too much for me, actually now i understood why they like this because for the price it is really good, i thought it was just a trying to mask the high pitch but yes i can now hear some separation and details, i think its just the sound profile that i require.

Final Audio E5000, Sony XBA-N3 or Dunu DK-4001 or Noble Audio Sage u/rockingcreation

Thank you.

Thanks man, yes, does Blessing have better base and soundstage?

I owned the Blessing Dusk a while back and i found it too big for comfort. And the sound was not as good as some other sets i had. My best recommendation for the price range would be the Tea 2. It competes with almost anything i own, even the kilobuck sets. And the soundstage is excellent.

what can you say a bout the Final IEM 4000?

I haven't tried any Final IEM yet. But i think they are only single DD sets. You might want to try a hybrid to get better soundstage.

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I've had and tested the wf-xm4's and 7hz zeros/moondrop chus for a while now and they are quite similar in technicalities, though I was able to find more details I never heard before with these IEMs, but that's probably because they have better tuning, the xm4's have recessed treble that you can't fully fix with EQ. And I forgot to mention they are both only $20.

I don't have the arias but they should definitely be better in a technical aspect than the xm4's as they are literally the next tier upgrade from the $20-50 IEM range, atleast in technicalities. Your arias may have a bad seal in your ears which could definitely affect the sound and your judgement...