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getBusyChild t1_j4bcprz wrote

WW2 Questions:

Did the Soviets ever bomb, like Britain and the US did, German cities? If so why do we never hear about it.

How did the Germans not discover Churchill was on a destroyer to meet FDR off the coast of Canada in 1941 when U Boats reigned supreme? If not occasionally sitting off the coast of the US, and Canada? Wouldn't a small fleet, not protecting anything, and heading in the wrong direction not raise suspicions?

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Thibaudborny t1_j4bk0tp wrote

So in 1943, Germany had about 240 uboats, of which 118 were operational at sea, which was apparently their peak number during the war. How do you suggest they monitor the entire northern Atlantic like that, though? They were not reigning supreme in that sense.

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xander_C t1_j4c6hz2 wrote

The Soviets didn't have the type of Air Force that the Western Powers did. That said, they weren't very shy about hitting cities with artillery, or sacking them the old-fashioned way.

One thing people forget about naval warfare is that the ocean is really big. Technologies like radar only really came into their own during WWII, and a huge part of every admiral's job was actually finding the enemy fleet. It's one of the reasons why the Allies' code breaking advantage was so important.

Furthermore, the U-boat was a strategic weapon that was generally used to raid merchant shipping. If surface vessels could find U-boats, they were generally capable of winning the tactical engagement. Especially because the Western vessels often operated in flotillas that included weapons specifically designed to counter submersibles.

Edit: spelling.

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TheGreatOneSea t1_j4cy4t2 wrote

The Russians were effectively out of range from German cities for a long time, since they had very few strategic bombers, preferring two engine bombers instead; those strategic bombers they did have mostly targeted cities around the Baltic, aiming for railway junctures, airports, and the like.

I don't think they ever did enough damage to be meaningful, though: the Russian strategic bombing regiment dropped 144,750 kilograms of ordinance total during 1941 (before losses basically grounded them,) while the US dropped 1,510,463 kilograms of bombs in a single raid on Toyko in 1945.

Unsurprisingly, when the Soviets decided they DID need something bombed, they would ask the Western Allies to do so, though this was generally rare.

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elmonoenano t1_j4cgt3l wrote

Uboats stayed away from coasts b/c they were vulnerable to submarine spotter planes. The US and Britain used PBY-5s. There's other things like submarine nets, placing boats around each other to shield a boat. The other thing was German intelligence just wasn't very good compared to the allies. There's no German equivalent to cracking the Enigma machine.

Soviets did bomb and a lot of their pilot groups are very famous. There's lots of stories and media about the Night Witches. The Long Range Air Force (ADD) started bombing German cities in '42. Their tempo increased as the Soviet's progressed. I think it's mostly that media rarely focuses on Soviet air power. People seem to be more interested in their tanks.

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getBusyChild t1_j4cy0bt wrote

But I thought the Germans had broken the British Naval codes in early 41?

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LaoBa t1_j4g041q wrote

>There's lots of stories and media about the Night Witches.

The 588th Night Bomber Regiment/46th "Taman" Guards Night Bomber Aviation Regiment was one of many tactical light bombing units of the Soviet Union, these units were intended for short range tactical and harassing attacks and thus would not bomb German cities, until the end of the war when the front was in Germany.

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LaoBa t1_j4fz5gw wrote

The Soviet Union launched a number of bombing raids against Berlin in 1941 and 1942, by naval planes operating from Saarema island and by long range air force units. The last attack in 1942 involved 200 planes. The damage inflicted by the attacks was very moderate however and the Soviet planners decided their heavy bomber assets would be better employed against military targets closer to the front.

More on the Soviet bombing raids against Berlin

Shortly before the end of the war Berlin was again bombed by 111 Soviet planes.

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