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MTPWAZ t1_jaceo9t wrote

Reply to comment by D-D-D-D-D-D-Derek in iPhone 15 USB-C Accessories to Have Limited Data and Charging Speeds Without Apple's MFi Certification by ExternalUserError

Sure for what? They just mandated the plug. Not the features.

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Expert_Gate8947 t1_jacm57z wrote

> Device-side connector: the included devices would have to be equipped with a USB-C receptacle on the device side (as described in the European standard EN IEC 62680-1-3:2021) and, in cases of charging power lower than 60 watts, be rechargeable with cables that complied with the same standard (new annex Ia, part I). > > Charging communication protocol: the devices should incorporate the USB Power Delivery (USB PD) standard (as described in the European standard EN IEC 62680-1- 2:2021) and ensure that any additional charging protocols allow for full USB PD functionality (new annex Ia, part I).

From the February 2023 EU legislation document.

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cmdtacos t1_jadltpc wrote

What about what they're doing violates either of these? If non-MFI cables still allow USB PD compliant charging under 60 watts wouldn't Apple still be in compliance?

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AcerbicCapsule t1_jadoiw9 wrote

You're asking what would apple violate if they adhere to the guidelines in a comment for a post that is suggesting apple will not adhere to the guidelines?

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cmdtacos t1_jadp2fa wrote

People are assuming Apple won't adhere to the guidelines. I'm just pointing out that from what I can tell Apple can at the same time restrict higher charging speeds to MFI cables AND obey the European rules for USB-C connectors on devices.

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unread1701 t1_jacm7k8 wrote

I might be wrong but I think they mandated the USB-C standard.

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-FoxBJK- t1_jacnya7 wrote

> the USB-C standard

See here's the problem with USB right now. This could mean any one of like 5 different USB standards.

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broke_fit_dad t1_jaez9mz wrote

USB C wiring isn’t standardized as well as it should be. I have 3 devices on USB C one has a special cable and charger and doesn’t charge or connect on any other set up. The other 2 1 cable works with both chargers for one and one charger works with both cables for the other.

I would wager Apple will use the “ for future expansion” wires in USB C as identifiers

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MTPWAZ t1_jad72nv wrote

Nah. Just the port and they it works with existing usb c chargers.

As for the standard that could be any number of things that no one adds to phones. So I doubt they would even try that.

So as long as the new port meets the basic requirements Apple is done. EU would need to update their meaning if they don’t like it.

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unread1701 t1_jadf0cg wrote

This is all so weird as Apple is a member of the USB consortium too. I do love their implementation of USB-C on the MacBook Air though. So I hope they do the same for the iPhones.

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