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samwood2809 OP t1_j5o2y3c wrote
The bars underneath showed what sorry
Theradox t1_j5o355k wrote
They show when your phone was actually charging - it doesn’t charge all night to reduce damaging the battery.
It charged a bit in the evening to make sure it was available, then sat all night until it kicked in for the morning (the final larger green bar)
samwood2809 OP t1_j5o4b92 wrote
So does it show when I first put it on to charge
samwood2809 OP t1_j5o4c6o wrote
When in the evening as I didn’t put it on to charhe til 11 ish
samwood2809 OP t1_j5ph0zu wrote
I thought it shows a pause button when it sits and doesn’t charge
samwood2809 OP t1_j5u7hp3 wrote
To you, does it look like my phone died at 12:53am?
ilreppans t1_j5od7ss wrote
It shows you plugged in at midnight, but charging was not activated and so the battery continued to deplete until it shut itself off. Looks like you using between 12-1am, did it shut-off while you where using it?
The gap between 1-5am with no info on the graph is typical display while charging after the phone has shut itself off. Your phone restarted at 5am when you started using it again, and so started recording battery graph info again.
samwood2809 OP t1_j5opex9 wrote
Thank you for this information by the way very interesting
samwood2809 OP t1_j5ope1s wrote
Where shows I plugged in at midnight? How was charging not activated when it was on charge though,So my phone knocks off when it depletes even though it’s on charge?
Yeah I went on it for a couple mins at 12:43 to to the toilet and then I came back and it was dead so put it on to charge about quarter to 1am
Oh right so it shut off whilst charging? Or do you mean the point when it died at 12:45 am? Yeah I used it at 5 for a few mins then a lot from 7.
ilreppans t1_j5oxpbi wrote
That first thin charge bar looks like it was plugged in for ~20mins about 10:30-10:50pm and was charging properly as the battery level is rising. The second charge bar looks like it was plugged in from 12am, and for the whole hour, but was not charging as battery level declined till it shut off. You say ‘it went on for a couple mins at 12:43’ but the blue SOT bar directly below it shows the screen was on for the almost the full hour between 12:00 and 1:00am. Where you using it, or not, between 12-1am?
If you were NOT using it more that the above ‘couple mins’ in that 12-1am zone, then one common possible explanation is that you accidentally swiped the screen on and to the left when putting it down for the night. That will activate the camera, which doesn’t time out. The camera is also power-consuming and heat-generating enough so that the phone might suspend charging until later due to high heat (do you use a fast charger?) - it would leave a notification of that, but of course you won’t see it with accidental activation, and a dead batt shut-down would erase it.
Also seen quite a few folks with iOS16 bugs showing plugged-in, yet not charging, graphs… but those cases did not show active SOT blue bars below.
Highlight that 12-1am SOT blue bar to see what App was running for that hour.
samwood2809 OP t1_j5pgu3b wrote
Yeah I woke up at 12:43 and went on it for a minute, then went to the toilet came back and it was dead but I thought it had been on charge when it hadn’t, so I placed it on to charge and fell back asleep and by 5 am this morning it was 100% charged? Yes i was on FaceTime to my gf between 12 and 1 but we both fell asleep I didn’t go on my phone just had FaceTime on and spoke to her. Does that explain anything?
So when it suspend charging does it die? Coz I’ve FaceTimed my girlfriend quite a bit and my phone never dies it stays charging and is on 100% by morning.
It says 100% FaceTime have attached the photo
ilreppans t1_j5prozz wrote
So FaceTime video conferencing, and wireless charging are both relatively high heat-generators, so it’s certainly possible, but the reports I’ve seen seem to say a notification will pop-up stating ‘charging suspended due to heat’, and you would notice that while FaceTiming. Could just be that random iOS glitch (are you on 16?) I mentioned earlier.
As to why it hasn’t happened before, well a random iOS glitch could be one answer, and another might be as batteries age, they slowly develop more internal resistance and therefore might be start triggering the heat tipping points.
I don’t know, personally my phone runs very cool with lite apps and slow chargers.
samwood2809 OP t1_j5psjgr wrote
What’s certainly possible? Yeah that notification didn’t come up, yeah I am on it
My main questions are is
Does it show anywhere that it died at 12:43 coz I can’t see where it says that but it did die then
And why is there just no data from 00-05 because it was fully charged by 7 am?
Or has it started charging from 5am possibly i re altered it as I was half asleep, would that make sense that it’s perhaps startes charging from 5am?
ilreppans t1_j5q6w63 wrote
Combo of FaceTime + wireless is what’s ‘possible’ for tripping heat sensor.
So HERE’s my phone that needed a 100-0-100 recalibration cycling because it was dying w/~18% left. You can see 3 small red bars on the left, each is 15mins, so it shows it shutdown at ~12:45am w/18% remaining, while I was using it in that 12-1am period for ~1/2hr as shown by the blue SOT bar below it. Then while shutdown and charging, no graph info recorded until I restarted using it at ~6am (but was probably fully charged by ~4-5am), as evidenced by the tiny blue SOT bar underneath it. Then on the far right, you can the last red bar disappear in the 11pm-12am range, but the blue SOT bar shows 15mins of use that hour, so it probably shutdown at 11:15pm.
samwood2809 OP t1_j5q86x0 wrote
Hold on so what do you think has happened with mine?
Does it show you when it died and when I put it on to charge?
samwood2809 OP t1_j5qewz7 wrote
Ah so does that green line below the graph show that it was plugged in to charge?
So if i woke up and were to go on my phone say 3am when it was restarting what would it say, is it still charging?
ilreppans t1_j5qlz8r wrote
Yes the green lines and faint green sections above them indicate plug-in periods. Only you doing something on the phone will restart it. If you left it alone till 11am then your graph would look like mine shutdown ~1am; no info 1-11am, then 100% when restarted at 11am.
If you restarted at 3am it might not even turn on (may still be zero batt), or might have been 10-30% and charging - IDK when it decided to start charging.
samwood2809 OP t1_j5qmhj9 wrote
So it will restart the phone, coz how would I get onto my phone if it was shut down, or do you mean restart the graph?
Ah okay so when you go on it the graph restarts?
I think it was probs on 10-30% because it still said notifications were at that time period on my screen time settings and I definitely plugged it at 1 coz otherwise how would it be charged when I woke up if I had plugged it in at 12 and it died at 12:43 as shown on graph?
ilreppans t1_j5qp13c wrote
Yeah mostly mean restart the graphs, the phone will wake and go to standby/locked screen when it decides it has enough juice, but won’t restart batt graphs until you login.
Back to the beginning, only 2 reasons I’ve seen where you plug-in but doesn’t charge is the heat problem and iOS16 bugs.
samwood2809 OP t1_j5qpu6x wrote
Yeah thought you meant the phone restarts
It was fully charged by morning though which I don’t understand if it wasn’t charging properly
I think it was on standby most the night because it said on my screen time notifications still came through
samwood2809 OP t1_j5qqesr wrote
if i plugged it in at 5 after it had ran out it would show it down at the bottom and in red but it’s not it’s in yellow and nearly at 100%
Yeah it died at 12:54am precisely coz that’s when the FaceTime ended
Thank you for this information by the way very interesting and helpful
samwood2809 OP t1_j5qmoo4 wrote
Unless I re adjusted it and put it on to charge at 5 am does that look possible that it could have been put on to charge at 5 am or not coz of the abrupt and immediate line not a gradual one building the charge up
samwood2809 OP t1_j5qf08x wrote
I plugged in at about 12:45
samwood2809 OP t1_j5qfzs8 wrote
Oh right so it shut down when u were using it?
Thing is with mine it doesn’t say it was fully charged til like 6 am, if I plugged in at 1am why’s it took so long to charge, and at 5am even if it did start charging then, it doesn’t gradually build up it goes up quite immediately in the yellow
How does the blue sot bar indicate it’s fully charged?
ilreppans t1_j5qjzep wrote
Yes mine shutdown while using
Technically you took the screenshot at 8:23 and the ‘last charged to 100%’ says ‘1hr ago’ so fully charged ~7:23, not 6am.
It should have been charging starting at 12am while you were FaceTiming, so who knows when it decided to start charging while it was shutdown 3,4,5 am?. Early version iOS gremlins, IDK. (Graph say plug-in at 12 not 1, IDK why the discrepancy, no offense, but I trust the graph more for that info).
Blue bar only shows when I started using it, ie that’s first point of restart and when the batt graphs started recording again, as I said “probably fully charged by ~4-5am” which means I’m guessing because the batt graphs don’t record info between shutdown and restart.
samwood2809 OP t1_j5qlmst wrote
Ah right weird how it was fully charged at 5 am,
So does my graph show to u when my phone died?
What’s a batt graph, ah so it restarts when u first go on it, is that the graph that restarts or the actual phone. So if i were to wake up and go on my phone whilst it’s on shut down would it just say it’s dead.
ilreppans t1_j5qnkpc wrote
It wasn’t fully charged at 5am, I can see the power still increasing even in the 6-7am period
I circled where it died above.
The phone should be in standby - On, but in this rare case following a shutdown, not recording batt graph info. It will force you to manually enter a password… and that’s the point the battery graph will start recording again.
samwood2809 OP t1_j5qpfij wrote
Ah right so you reckon maybe I plugged in at 5?
Yeah so just enter my password for my phone and then once I’ve unlocked my phone the battery info starts recording again. I thought that was standby when ur phone just needs a password to get on, like usual every morning when I wake up grab my phone and put my password in and iPhones unlocked thought that was standby
samwood2809 OP t1_j5qpjvp wrote
When you say shut down do you mean the phone runs out of battery? That happened just before 1am about 12:45 am like stated on your graph yes
samwood2809 OP t1_j5qlubs wrote
Does shut down mean die?
ilreppans t1_j5qno4i wrote
Unexpectedly die - yes.
samwood2809 OP t1_j5u7iow wrote
To you, does it look like my phone died at 12:53am?
ilreppans t1_j5vo1e4 wrote
Yeah somewhere between 12:45 and 1:15
samwood2809 OP t1_j5vrq1s wrote
Where abouts does it show that, are there like half an hour gaps?
ilreppans t1_j5vu3qi wrote
Circles the spot with my hand written notes on an earlier attachment - ‘shutdown ~1am’.
samwood2809 OP t1_j5vztry wrote
Yeah by shutdown does that mean battery died? And is that approximately 1am is there a way to see the precise time when your phone dies not just for this day id like to see if for others? Thank you
ilreppans t1_j5wxzfi wrote
Yes batt died and phone shut off by itself. I don’t of a precise way to tell when, except if you are using at time when it does it it.
samwood2809 OP t1_j613ldp wrote
How do you mean by itself?
samwood2809 OP t1_j5psshe wrote
Hold on it says 16.3 download and install so I’m on the one before that I think?
samwood2809 OP t1_j5pgvpn wrote
I use one of the wireless pads to charge it
insert-cool-name_ t1_j5oe6we wrote
In the screenshot click the "battery and charging" menu. They added "clean energy charging" in ios 16 which supposedly only charges ur phone when "clean energy" is available so that + smart charging might be why it was charging weird
samwood2809 OP t1_j5oprc9 wrote
Yeah I just found it weird that I had it plugged in from 1 am onwards and it didnt show it was charging at all between 1 and 5 and what’s the green bit below the graph
samwood2809 OP t1_j5opwso wrote
What did you think was weird? Thank you for this information by the way
insert-cool-name_ t1_j5po3u4 wrote
>What did you think was weird?
The charging information showing up incorrectly
Have you tried restarting your phone? It could have just been a simple glitch in the system
samwood2809 OP t1_j5pp5fh wrote
I found it weird because, I woke up at 12:43 went to the toilet, as I was back it had died, I put it on to charge on my pad and then fell asleep til 5 am and it was charged then went to sleep again and 7 am it was fully charged. But it doesn’t show it charging at all from 12:43 even though that’s when I charged it.
Does it mean anything because I was on FaceTime at the time and fell asleep on FaceTime, if so I went on FaceTime at 11:30 and fell asleep and then woke up at 12:43 ( still on FaceTime) and then obviously it ended when I was back coz my phone had died. I didn’t FaceTime after it had died. Simply both fell asleep on FaceTime by accident. Does this affect anything perhaps or because it was a wireless pad?
Thank you for your help!
insert-cool-name_ t1_j5pq4sp wrote
It's possible it was the wireless charger. Since you have to align the phone just right to charge it may have been slightly off causing the issue. I doubt facetime had anything to do with it.
Has it happened any other times? I think the best guess is it's just a random iOS glitch
Also, no problem glad to help
samwood2809 OP t1_j5pqv1b wrote
Possible the wireless charger causes what sorry?
well yeah when I went to bed at half 11 I put it on the pad and when I woke up at 12:43 I took it off the pad messages a few people went to the toilet and to the kitchen and when I was in the kitchen it died showing I must have not put it on properly so I placed it back on the pad and obviously successfully as my phone had charged by morning.
No no other times
insert-cool-name_ t1_j5prjzn wrote
I meant the wireless charger might have been the issue since you have to align the phone. If the phones not aligned it can still sometimes charge but it's very inconsistent and can lose connection. Which would explain the werid charging graph
samwood2809 OP t1_j5pru3w wrote
Yeah it was on incorrectly from about 11:30 to 12:43 hence why it died.
Which part of the graph do you think is weird?
insert-cool-name_ t1_j5q0zof wrote
>Which part of the graph do you think is weird?
Where the bars dissappear from 00 - 05
samwood2809 OP t1_j5q8a1t wrote
Does it look to you as if I plugged it in to charge at 5am?
samwood2809 OP t1_j5q8crv wrote
Because to me it doesn’t really because it goes up all of a sudden doesn’t build up
samwood2809 OP t1_j5ppc3y wrote
Will restart now, what does that bit mean where there is no lines at all from 00-05 ish what does that suggest?
insert-cool-name_ t1_j5pr4ej wrote
theory 1: that's when the phone died. Since the charging bars show back up around 50% the phone was probably charging while completely shut off since it died
Theory 2: wireless charging can generate extra heat, so if you didn't align the phone right the wireless charger was working extra hard trying to send power to the phone causing it to heat up and shut down. Then, eventually turning back on once it cooled. This is less likely since I think there would be a notification of some sort say the phone shut down due to heat
samwood2809 OP t1_j5profn wrote
Yes the phone did die at 12:43, but was on charge at about 12:50 and worked. Where does it show the charging bar?
When did you think that it was charging but shut off at which point coz it was fully charged by morning so it must have charged correctly
samwood2809 OP t1_j5phrlc wrote
I thought if it was that it showed a pause
samwood2809 OP t1_j5phw07 wrote
samwood2809 OP t1_j5u7j62 wrote
To you, does it look like my phone died at 12:53am?
insert-cool-name_ t1_j5uc0pa wrote
You are waaaaaayyyyyyyyyy overthinking this. It's a simple glitch, nothing more, and nothing to worry about. Since it hasn't happened before, assuming it doesn't happen again, everything's fine. Tech devices screw up sometimes, there was probably a glitch in the battery graph
samwood2809 OP t1_j5uc5b2 wrote
Yeah hopefully it’s fine
But the graph does show it dies at 12:53 am ish right?
Theradox t1_j5nuiv9 wrote
Think this is smart charging and the bars underneath show when it turned on, so first to make sure your phone didn’t die over night and then again before you woke up to make sure it was charged up in the morning