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ThreeDogs2022 t1_j3oy6rz wrote

....but.....some of them are shitholes. And they're shitholes by CHOICE, which makes it our right, nay, our DUTY, to comment on the shitholiness. It's punching up when you observe for example that florida is a shithole. Or texas. You show up to the ballot box and keep desantis and abbott on their tin thrones, you choose shitholiness. And other people get to make fun of you for it.

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Daily_the_Project21 t1_j3pg5l9 wrote

Those two states are bad examples. Better examples are Louisiana and Alabama and Mississippi.

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PutNameHere123 t1_j3qngzj wrote

No: your examples are mostly just full of poor uneducated people who are oppressed by crappy schools and infrastructure; Florida and Texas pound their chests about their shitty ideas.

I’ve never heard of Mississippi sending undocumented people on busses out-of-state to the homes of politicians they don’t like nor Louisiana proudly announcing that they wouldn’t be following the CDC’s COVID protocols.

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Daily_the_Project21 t1_j3qqe6l wrote

Idk, I guess I don't define a place a shithole just because the people have ideas I disagree with.

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ThreeDogs2022 t1_j3qtwqe wrote

Uh, bigotry, discrimination and fascism aren't 'ideas to disagree with'. That's taxing policy, zoning decisions, new roads.

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Daily_the_Project21 t1_j3qucp7 wrote

So you agree with those things? Uh, okay buddy.

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mmelectronic t1_j3ra8ll wrote

What’s fascism again? The merger of corporation and state? How is Massachusetts any less fascist than Texas or Florida?

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TecumsehSherman t1_j3s4kg4 wrote

Per Wikipedia:

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultra-nationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3]

I'm going to ask you to rank the following states in terms of how far to the right you think they are:

  1. Florida
  2. Texas
  3. Massachusetts
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mmelectronic t1_j3s9288 wrote

Well now that wikipedia has changed the definition of fascism I’m not sure.

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Ferfuxache t1_j3r03fq wrote

No those are great examples. Texas outside the 4 cities (D,H,SA,A) are complete and utter shit holes populated by delusional religious nut jobs who think bucc-ees is a hoot. (Source drove through a bunch of them on the way to and from Celtics Mavs game, I’m also stuck here for work till good knows when)

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adietcokeaday t1_j3s7z00 wrote

As someone who spent a few years living in Louisiana, they’re not willfully shitholes. They elected a Democratic governor to fix the mess a Republican governor left behind when he decided to run for president after running the state into a nearly billion dollar defecit. Not to mention, they’re gerrymandered out of control. New Orleans and Baton Rouge, by far the two biggest cities and separated by an hour drive on the highway, are in the same House district.

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threeorangewhips3 t1_j3ri2q7 wrote

In my state, it's Springfield,Worcester and Lawrence. Sorry if you live there and don't agree.

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OkOpinion5519 t1_j3ss6l1 wrote

A lot of these 'shithole' states are so gerrymandered, it's hard to even say they are a democracy anymore. You can't blame people for not voting when decades of republicans have deliberately closed polling stations in 'democratic' areas, making wait times hours long, required ID at the polls that can be expensive or difficult to obtain, etc. It's not so black and white.

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joeys4282 t1_j3p1orz wrote

lol it’s funny you call Florida and Texas shit holes when more people are leaving states like California and MASSACHUSETTS. For states like Florida and Texas. Why because the parties in power are doing things to make there state affordable unlike unaffordable Massachusetts.

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Chippopotanuse t1_j3qku95 wrote

Not really.

Why the hell would I move my family and especially my daughter to a place that won’t protect her rights, where there are horrible education options, and where we’d be surrounded by MAGA dumfucks?

Because it’s “cHeAPeR to LiVe?”

Lol. Most folks in Mass would pay far more to live here to he insulated from the absolute shitheels who govern those other states. I sure as hell would.

We aren’t all broke-ass babies who can’t pay our bills. Many of us make plenty of money and that’s why shit is expensive.

I would LOVE it if the 10% of folks who voted for Trump in my town all moved their bum-asses to Plano, Texas or Tampa. Good riddance.

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Codspear t1_j3tcpbu wrote

Honestly, there are plenty of people who leave MA because of the cost. Decent people that don’t make much money but are still needed in society nonetheless. We should be building much more housing so that more people can live here comfortably.

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mattgm1995 t1_j3psz7w wrote

Tell me which action the democrats have done that have made mass unaffordable to you.

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