I thought the movie was pretty bad in general. Night writes dialogue in a way no humans talk. Worst of all, it was so forward. No twist to be had.

Definitely would have been a better message if the four were trials to test them, and their refusal even in the face of the world ending was the correct answer. Shyamalan is really hit or miss and this one felt like a miss. Might have worked as a 30 minute anthology episode. Maybe Outer Limits tier, not quite deserving of Twilight Zone.

Bautista did fine, but wasnt really exceptional. Just showing he's able to play more than walking muscle.

It is pretty bad, but I disagree with OP that it's propaganda. I don't even think M Night is very religious, his changes to the book are more in line with consistent themes in his filmography.

They make a point of saying it has nothing to do with the couple being gay. They're just a random couple with a child that is the object of God's current sacrificial bloodlust. The horrific act of God extends far beyond anything to do with the sexual preference of the victims. God is just a jerk in general in the movie

This comment contains spoilers: It was well acted and the direction was good but the premise, in my opinion, was bullshit. Enough with the gays getting bashed (in the flashback), rejected by their parents, tied up, made to observe people murdering each other, etc. It's an old trope that making gays suffer in film humanizes them to straight audiences, who then magically overcome their homophobia. I'm so over it. I get that gay visibility is good I'm just not into watching them suffer and die a noble death to save humanity.

So what's the option of having gay representation in horror movies? If they can't be villains, and they can't be victims, and they can't be heroes, what's left?

Equality means everyone gets to play any of those roles. >!And surely a film where a gay man prevents the apocalypse, thus saving the world out of an act of love for his husband and daughter, is about the most positive representation you can get.!<

The same could be said about Tarantino, David Mamet, Wes Anderson, Yorgos Lanthimos.

In fact, outside Mumblecore, most movie dialog in general is nothing at all like how real people talk.

They can be anything anyone wants them to be. Being sick of watching gay characters suffer doesn't equal me saying gay characters can't be something. I'm expressing an opinion about this particular movie.

Does the movie even mention God? I took it to be more of a cosmic event. Like nature or the universe requiring humans to sacrifice themselves as an act of pure love to justify the continuation of the human race, which is otherwise destructive.

The "four horsemen" surrogates say that families have been forced to make a sacrifice for generations, and that their visions only brought them to the cabin, and didn't show them who would be in it. So it's not personal for them. They're following the instructions they've been given.

Weird that you think it's propaganda just because it's got a gay married couple as the protagonists. Not sure what you're implying here. Would your response to the subject matter have been different if it had been about a straight couple?

Leonard said he believes they were chosen because their love is so pure and if you see who amongst them dies its the person who despite seeing the flaws of humanity did all he could to maintain his pureness and belief in people.

Feels like its sort of a cycle where this occasionally happens as a test of humanity and this time it just so happened to be a gay couple.

Leonard even said he didn't know they were a same sex couple when they were compelled to the cabin and everyone else in his group was quick to condemn their actions as targeted bigotry.

The twist was that there was no twist. The whole movie is all just taken at face value

God is mentioned a couple of times. Also a figure in the light, the 4 Horseman, etc have God implied so much that you can’t actually discount His presence

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Yeah I don't think it has anything to do with their sexuality. My point still stands that God is a jerk as portrayed in the movie though

Kinda accurate given his old testament stuff.

Kill your son or you don't love me, making bets with Satan over cities being corrupted, sending bears to kill those kids for making fun of his bald friend.

God is one two fists gin joint bouncer and he made us in his image.

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Is it just me or are people getting stupider about understanding and comprehending movies? Jesus. The brain rot.

Old Testament!

The book by Paul Tremblay has a vastly different ending - you might enjoy that more.

Yes exactly shamalamadyne hates penises in buttholes

The planes falling from the sky represent little seamans that never made it to an egg (the sun)

The daughter is asian because he is saying that asians are made from sinful anal sex between two men

Ron hates gay people because he cant get over how good it felt to have harry deep in his ass

You solved it. Good job.

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This film is LOADED with propaganda. Homosexuality, Religion, PC, adoption.

I don’t believe this had much to do with the orientation of the dudes. Idgaf what anyone is, man, woman, religious, agnostic, atheist, gay, straight, trans etc. Just be a good person. Just be kind and loving to others. Raise your children the same way. Stop the propaganda. Stop causing our children to grow in a world where skin color, and who people sleep with, is the end all to what their character is.

You move next to me, you’re getting a fucking pie and cookies. I could care less what holiday you celebrate most.

They’re gay for a lot of reasons but the main one being that it makes it even harder for them to believe the 4 horsemen are telling the truth.

Makes the movie a lot more interesting imo, wouldn’t have worked nearly as well otherwise.