Submitted by Trillamanjaroh t3_126z4tv in movies
Pirates have been constantly present in our culture for decades. It’s a genuinely fascinating part of history for a lot of good reasons. Yet I don’t think I’ve ever seen a pirate movie make it to theaters after the release of the first Pirates of the Caribbean. Certainly that’s a testament to the quality of those movies, but it had me wondering if there were any other examples of a franchise successfully dominating a genre to a similar extent?
Ok, you got me there
Pirates! The great claymation movie was a huge success. Of course any "serious" movie would automatically be compared to the hit TV series "Black Sails" and any comedy to that one with the guy from Flight of the Conchords.
Until 65, the Jurassic Park franchise owned the dinosaur movie.
Live action, because The Land Before Time had like 12 movies and there is Dinosaur and The Good Dinosaur, too.
Cutthroat Island II ?
2 Cutthroat 2 Island
I feel like making a big budget 18th century pirate film will just invite unfair comparisons and be automatically labeled a "ripoff".
Until Jurassic Park, Denver The Last Dinosaur owned dinosaur shows.
He's my friend and a whole lot more.
All the pirates went over to TV. Black Sails, Our Flag Means Death, Crossbones, Blackbeard...
Looking at how 65's been doing, it still does.
There are 3 moderate budget pirate tv shows airing or set to premiere right now.
But movies are another story. Take a look at how these non-Jack Sparrow pirate movies performed and you will see why Hollywood is reluctant to make pirate movies:
2020 - Wendy
2015 - Pan
2013 - Captain Philips
2012 - Ice Age 5 (?)
2012 - Pirates!
2012 - One piece
2012 - A hijacking
2008 - The Pirates who don’t do anything
2003 - Sinbad
2003 - Peter Pan
Cutthroat Island II - Electric Boogaloo
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The Pirates 2014
The Pirates: The Last Royal Treasure 2022
Were both great fun.
Sure, but if we’re counting kids movies than we’ve got to scrap the entire premise, because we’ve had plenty of animated pirates movies since 2003. And Peter Pan movies.
I figured we were talking about dominance of the genre.
Not pirates per say, but fuck I want a sequel to Master and Commander.
It's interesting that even in the years after Jurassic Park III, when Jurassic Park 4 failed to materialise, no Hollywood studio tried to make a dinosaur movie. The closest thing we got was King Kong, and that doesn't count because the dinosaurs weren't the focus of the movie and just happened to be there. I wonder if studios saw the downward trend in box office returns for the Jurassic Park trilogy and figured that franchise (dinosaur) fatigue was setting in.
The Prehysteria trilogy is in shambles over this
Cutthroat Island was such a massive bomb that studios did not want to chance making another in the genre for 8 years. Then Disney gave us the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise.
Jungle Cruise...kind of?
I don't get why it did so bad. It's an awesome movie! Was it because the MC is a woman? I love Pirates of the Caribbean but Cutthroat is just as well done. Has a good plot is well acted.
I'd be down for a reboot of Time Bandits........ehhhhhh maybe not.....
Sea Beast on Netflix is not bad.
They still do lmao 65 was a flip
I agree that it was unfairly judged. Some very cool old school stunts in Cutthroat Island, and it had been said by some that Geena just wasn't cut out to be an action hero. Those people are proven galactically stupid and wrong by her very next movie. After CI, Her then husband Renny Harlin's career as a successful big budget director was over, and Geena suffered too as her offers got smaller. It is a shame, because Long Kiss Goodnight was such a blast.
Cutthroat Island Strikes Back
Vikings were pirates*, and we've had plenty of Viking movies. I'm reminded of Gene Roddenberry's remark that Star Trek was a wagon train to the stars. Just take an old genre -- one that may be a bit worn and in need of a breather -- and transpose it to a different setting.
And speaking of space "westerns" ... well, I haven't watched that kind of film for years, but aren't there plenty of piratical types in sci fi films?
Not all pirates have to have eyepatches, wooden legs, and a Hollywoodized Elizabethan English accent.
*Yeah, yeah, I know: Vikings were a lot of other things besides pirates -- but raiders and pirates are homeground for Viking lore in the movies, largely because that is how they primarily impacted the (slightly) more civilized peoples of the British Isles and France, and the slightly more civilized victims of Viking pirates raids, in the end, were the people who wrote the history books.
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It must cost a lot in props, sets, constumes, etc... for a 2h movie.
I just remembered there was a movie in the 1980s called Ice Pirates? Don’t even remember what it was about. Probably ice pirates.
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Asha_Brea t1_jebomtf wrote
What about the Captain Phillips movie?
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Now, I agree that it is weird that there are not more. Someone somewhere should be doing a (new) Sandokan movie series.