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If it’s true, yes.

The only place brass knuckles have been mentioned is internet comment boards. If there is a trial and not just a plea, I'm willing to bet we would hear about it.

I remember seeing the video of this. Was craaaazy.

Good. Throw the book at the kid. Absolutely disgraceful.

I don't recall the video exactly, but didn't he challenge the guy to fight or go outside specifically to do that? At that point what does it matter if the other kid has a weapon? Even if the other guy had a gun it wouldn't be self defense?

My friend who used to bounce at clubs, downtown told me brass knuckles. I don’t think he was on the message board. I think he talk to people in the city. Who knows, I’m sure we’ll hear everything when it goes to trial.

I think brass knuckles are illegal in the state of New Hampshire

This guy went to a club where people go to have a good time, brought a gun and got drunk. He challenged someone to a fight, got punched and shot him how many times? He definitely went out that night to shoot someone or something. Just an awful person. Should be a life sentence.

I just don't understand how a punch to the head isn't considered deadly force.

The video clearly shows this ass in the bar challenging the other dude to fight him outside. The second he didn’t leave the scene, when he had ample time to do so, negates any self defense bullshit.

When you challenge someone to a fight, you can’t claim self defense. Stop. It’s over. This guy is a piece of shit.

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He sought out the fight.

It could be. I think the judge's comments about the totality of the evidence reference the fact that he was actively looking for a fight. In that case, I don't think you can really claim self-defense.

I hear ya, brass knuckles are pretty devastating, and where the blow landed based on the mugshot... Dude's zygomatic bones surviving without damage to the orbital, maxillary or temporal processes seem unlikely. Not impossible though.

Unrelated tip: A Bic type lighter held in your hand turns your fist into a concrete block without the impracticality of carrying a roll of quarters or a deadly weapon like brass knuckles. The absolute best option is to walk away.

It would have been more of a self defense case if he didn’t automatically shoot like the video showed. He should have pulled the gun and told him to back off. Instead he immediately fired. Additionally, other videos showed he was trying to egg on a fight outside the bar. Dude was looking to shoot someone that night.

Are those illegal in New Hampshire?

#FAFO

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Good, this fucker deserves capital punishment

Brass knuckles would matter.

However, they were outside, walking away is an option for self defense/preservation.

Also brass knuckles do not result in life being threatened.

I mean when someone challenges you to a fight outside and you follow them outside to fight, aren't you also seeking out a fight?

Correct. All knives are legal, but brass knuckles and slingshots are not.

We call that mutual combat.

Maybe if he shot once there's a decent argument for it (not from me) but he unloaded point blank without hesitation. He's too dangerous to be out and about with reactions like that. Although George Zimmerman got away with it and then bragged so who knows.

It was 3v1. He had already been assaulted inside the bar. He got sucker punched outside when he looked at 1 of the other guys.

Not trying to say what he did was right but I’d definitely fear for my life being confronted by 3 guys after already being assaulted. I’m not turning my back on them to walk away.

This trial will be interesting.

He also shot the victim 4 times in the back.

Yeah..no. The little puncher was like 4’11

Slingshots are legal, slung shots are not. Big difference

And? You volunteering to let someone 4'11' smack you in the head when you're not paying attention?

Idk man. You hit me I'm not going to draw and ask you to stop, because that's how you get disarmed and the weapon used against you. Never draw unless you intend to use it.

You punch me in the side of the temple, I'd have reacted the same way this dude did.

Someone should have told this big idiot to keep his mouth shut.

Would you also fire the whole damn clip as fast as possible?

I don't think you've seen the damage they can do.

Not running? If he knew the threat was over, no reason not to stay and wait for the cops

As long as walking away is an option.... they don't justify a shooting.

He’s on video asking the dude(s) to step outside to fight.

Seriously. I would've been shocked if he got bail.

The person he shot who he was fighting with outside was different than the person he was fighting with inside. Main point being...the guy just wanted to fight.

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There's more factors than that. Not arguing in either side of this specific case, but if the one with knuckles is much younger or faster, you don't want to turn your back and get hit in the head. You might have your own perspective on it, but even if you can run away, if you don't think you can get away, and think that your life is in danger, shoot, and let the court sort it out.

Brass knuckles are illegal for a reason. Again, not on either side of this as I haven't been able to look into it too much.

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And then he mag dumped into the dudes face and stood there looking all proud. I'm sure he was real worried for his life

The “little guy” was also pretty jacked. That 1 punch ducked this guys face and eye up. Some of the toughest mother fuckers I’ve known were short guys. Never heard of “short man syndrome” or “Napoleon complex”?

https://www.healthguidance.org/entry/15851/1/short-man-syndrome-explained.html

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He’s on video inside the bar screaming that someone already “punched me in the face”. I’d be pretty fuckin pissed too.

If the 1 guy went to fight him…ok. Instead 3 guys went to fight him. I don’t know about you but I’m not going to risk getting my head kicked in by 3 guys.

The 3 guys weren’t to worried either when they had the upper hand and were threatening to kill him outside. That changed when he evened the odds.

It’ll be an interesting trial.

7-8 rounds isn’t a mag dump. He had plenty more if the other 2 decided to jump him. The ole’ peace maker did its job.

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Absolutely not. 1-3 while backing away and seeing if the person dropped so I could attempt to render aid if my shots weren't fatal.

I'm an asshole and I'm not going to be assaulted, but I'm also not going to let someone die even if they deserve it.

If I had 3 guys threatening me I’d have my hand on my gun as well. I’m not missing going home to my family because some little dick terds got beer balls.

Spoken like someone whose never actually been punched in the temple or side of the head lmfao.

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I’ve seen that comment from so many people it’s ridiculous. What the fuck does a few inches in height have to do with toughness? We ain’t measuring dick sizes here. Hell I’m 6” taller than Mike Tyson. I’d definitely destroy him in a fight…

I mean. I don't disagree he's a piece of shit because mag dumping someone is stupid, but I'm also not believing everything the media has released until the evidence is released at trial.

All I know is: I saw the video. Party A was standing there. Party B approaches. Party B appeared to say something. Party B nails Party A in the side of the head. Party A draws and Party B becomes fertilizer.

Proof that they weren’t?

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He looked to the right at one of the other 3 guys that were a threat to him. Once his focus was off, dick head smashes his face in. That’s the second time he was blindside attacked without provocation. Who did this guy hit? No one. He was assaulted twice.

Put up or shut up then my dude.

Hits To the side of the head are incredibly dangerous and potentially fatal. The only people who think defending yourself from assault makes you a coward, have never been assaulted.

Imagine having a mindset of needing to bring a gun while going out drinking

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Apparently short people can't be dangerous? Lmfao. I knew a dude who was almost a foot shorter than me but but we joke sparred once and he managed to get me to the ground twice. It was like fighting a spider monkey.

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I have zero sympathy for ANY little dick head that assaults someone. Keep your hands to yourself. What semantics am I arguing? 3 people assaulted a guy, 1 ended up dead.

Not the way I would have handled it. Not the way the bar, with police already there, should have handled it. I’ve seen plenty of shit go down in bars. Never have I seen a bar walk someone out and allow his assailants to follow a person.

Hypothetical, what if we replace “big guy” with a young woman. She’s on video inside, drunk, screaming that she was just molested. Bouncers walk her outside and 3 men follow her to her car where she shoots 1 of them. I do believe Reddit would have a different opinion on that situation. None of this, “ohh little guys can’t hurt people.” “they weren’t even doing anything to her.”
“She was looking right at him so it’s ok that he grabbed her breasts”.
“She was screaming about being molested in the bar so obviously she wanted it”.

What else would they be there for? Moral support?

There is no problem with that mindset the issue is intentionally picking a fight to shoot someone who pissed you off. (Keep in mind I'm not saying that's what he did just what is implied by the state in the charges brought)

Was there more than one video? I saw three people standing fscd to fscd with him and then someone assault him first, then he reacted.

When the JUDGE PRESIDING denies bail and says “not justifiable self defense”, what defense can he even use throughout his proceedings? Wrap it up and put a bow on it this dudes cooked

Someone had sucker punched him in the bar first. He reacted to being suckered. Not excusing his actions but context is important.

The judge doesn’t decide the case. The jury does. Jurisprudence 101. Burden is on a jury to unanimously agree beyond any reasonable doubt that he’s guilty. I’d also move for a change of venue if I’m the defense if a judge is willing to already show bias without hearing all the facts from both sides. His bias is tainting the jury. Delee has no criminal record, and is not a flight risk.

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This is true, and this is also why innocence is assumed rather than guilt as the prosecution could be full of shit. people say the video is damning though from my perspective it is vague minus the part you just reference so witnesses are the key to this case.

Outside, in the video, he is surrounded on three sides, then gets suckered again. On video. The sucker punch was enough to lacerate his temple, so Pouliot must have been wearing rings, or potentially brass knuckles, which now covers assault with a deadly weapon. No one is innocent in this case, but it’s preposterous to rule without hearing all the facts from both sides, that Delee could not have had any reasonable suspicion that his life was in danger.

Reading the comments here in this thread it seems there's video from inside the bar I didn't see..

You’re glossing over a lot of the facts. Delee went to a bar, with friends. He and his friends got into an argument with Pouliot and his friends. Someone sucker punched Delee, and he reacted pretty much how anyone would react to being sucker punched. They were then all thrown out. He challenged his attackers to try it again outside, where Pouliot sucker punched him again, this time with some item in his hand that lacerated Delee’s left temple (rings, brass knuckles, etc), while both of Pouliot’s friends flanked him on both sides. Delee was cornered on three sides. Delee was assaulted twice, at least once with a deadly weapon. I’m not defending Delee so much as filling in context. Its not exactly black and white. It was a shitty situation and no one is innocent here. They both fucked around and both found out. Its a shame that two idiots barely old enough to drink have thrown their lives away.

There is no such thing as excessively shooting someone. Watch any police video where they dump 100’s of rounds into a person. Training teaches you to shoot till they stop moving.

Just a little aside note. You ever play paintball or airsoft? When someone on the other team pops up next to you, you WILL turn and shoot them. You’re going to pull that trigger as many times as you can until that persons hand is up yelling, I’m out I’m out I’m out. Adrenaline is a bitch. You’re not going to think clearly for at least a few seconds. There’s no such thing as, well I got him once so I win. You’re going to go until the threat is neutralized.

That’s easy to say without the adrenaline pumping. In a real situation I’d wager a different result for most people.

Maybe. But he’s an alive pussy.

I had numerous people telling me in the original post of the video telling me how he was going to get off on self defense and there was no way the charges would go forward.

This guy wanted to shoot someone and was just looking for an excuse.

Yes, after that he’s all “let’s step outside!” Look dude, I defended Rittenhouse, but this guy is fucked.

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I watched the video footage. You can frame it all you want but he pulled that gun out way too fast.

Dude was looking to shoot someone.

They may have both fucked around but this guy murdered someone on camera.

He walked outside looking to continue the fight, he could have got in someone's car or uber and it would have been over. Self defense won't stand.

Because you’re talking like punching people is ok and it’s not also a deadly assault.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38992393

But Duncan Bew, a consultant in trauma and acute care at King's College Hospital, said this reflects a fundamental lack of understanding.

"People are very much focused on penetrating injuries, but actually punching someone in the head can be just as lethal," he said.

It didn't look like a sucker punch to me. Dude shouldn't have punched him but the previous poster made it seen like he snuck up behind him and punched him unaware.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38992393

But Duncan Bew, a consultant in trauma and acute care at King's College Hospital, said this reflects a fundamental lack of understanding.

"People are very much focused on penetrating injuries, but actually punching someone in the head can be just as lethal," he said.

Ya know, I said if the 1 guy went to fight him it would have been ok… it wouldn’t. You’ve got a drunk guy that was already assaulted in the bar. Bouncers drag him out AND allow 3 assailants to follow him. That’s with the god damned police at the bar already. Police said it took them 15 seconds to be on the scene…. They should have been called over. The bar never should have let those people follow him into the parking lot. The bar sounds like they over served everyone involved. I don’t justify what this dickbag did but that bars gonna get sued to oblivion by the kids family that was shot and the guy that did the shooting. Bars have a responsibility to protect their customers.

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The guy is a scumbag and deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his life but we do not know he went out to shoot someone that night. That part is a leap.

Right, and he got pissed. If they had been no gun involved maybe he might have sucker punched the guy back out on the street and it would have just been assault or something like that. That's exactly the whole point. He brought a gun. Or God forbid, just left. But no no way too much testosterone for that

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Makes responsible gun owners look bad

We need to have a "where are they now" for the gun nuts and other degenerates on this subreddit who saw the original videos and said with the highest degree of confidence that it was self defense.

White power Bob retired from armchair lawyering to live out his dreams as lead ditch digger for Ditch corp.

Some say 2nd amendment Ted died performing cunnilingus on his Sig Sauer. Others say it was fellatio.

January 6th Phil finally got his grade 9 after all those years.

I heard brass knuckles were used and thought, well maybe. Seeing the photos of this guy towering over bailiffs and now thinking, why didn’t he just beat the ever loving crap out of the guy instead of shooting? Probably could have done it with both hands behind their back.

Hopefully after a few years of getting penetrated REPEATEDLY.