>This would effectively legalize the possession, cultivation and distribution of marijuana for everyone 21 and older with no specific limits on how much can be grown or possessed.

The way this is worded makes it sound like, you can have and grow as much as you want, but you won't be able to open a dispensary?

Also from the actual bill:

>This bill legalizes the possession and use of lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), mescaline, psilocybin, and peyote for persons 21 years of age and older.

I am confused.

Don't worry, it'll die in either the Senate or on Sununu's desk.

Let's fucking go

If only this would actually pass 😔

Cool but until the senate is on board it's going nowhere

Calling it now, it’s gonna die in the Senate

hb360 is a different bill that notes legalizesing the possession and use of lysergic acid diethylamide (LSDmescaline, psilocybin, and peyote for persons 21 years of age and older.

Ah, the article linked to HB328.

100% New Hampshire will never legalize until the federal government does, Sununu has said as much.

Live Free Or Die, my ass

Carry a gun with no permit? Sure, why not?

Smoke a joint, jail.

I nominate the Ostrich as the state bird, noted for sticking it's head in the sand to hide. Missouri is now a legal state.

If they legalize privately owned dispensaries, they undermine the entire foundation of our state liquor store system so you are correct. We’re going to have to wait until it is federal law so we can have state-run dispensaries.

Calling it now - in ten years we’re going to have them conveniently located off 93, just after the tolls!

Everyone talking about it dying in the Senate clearly hasn't paid attention to the last couple of years and the current makeup of the Senate.

The prime sponsor of the legalization bill(HB1598) which was killed last year is Daryl Abbas. He is now a Senator.

Also voting Yea in the House last year on HB1598 was Tim Lang and Howard Pearl. Guess what, they are Senators this year as well.

There is support in the Senate for legalization.

Fuck the liquor commission and their monopoly.

Why would there be dispensaries at the border when literally every other surrounding state is legal?

Fuck it, buy an eighth and you get a free Roman Candle!

Almost like living free

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Holy fucking shit. All Entheogenic drugs too? Live Free

Imo that's the best option. Fuck all these dispensaries. Just let people grow their own shit and keep the black market running without cop interference

It will go where all marijuana legalization bills go to die, the New Hampshire Senate

I’m confused, when I read the bill there’s also mention of legalization of lsd, shrooms, and mescaline. I’m all for living free but with how difficult it has been to even get close to cannabis legalization only (ie tackling actual Rec stores at a later date which seems to be the case) why are they trying to slip this in there?

I feel most people support weed legalization but that would be a tough sell to the senate. That is, if they actually read the bill!

well if the senate has a similar ratio; and it dies on Sununu's desk, the veto would be overridden easily. And who knows, this bill doesn't involve creating established distribution, so it may be different.

LET'S FUCKING GO, ACTUAL GOD DAMN FREEDOM

>Carry a gun with no permit? Sure, why not?

Hell Yes

>Smoke a joint

Hell Yes

That's the FREEDOM way

"Smoke a joint, jail."

It is decriminalized..... You don't go to fucking jail for smoking a joint. Unless you're doing it while driving. If you want to criticize the law status, go for it, but at least know what you're talking about.

Lower taxes, same reason people buy liquor here.

the problem will be the other shit tacked onto this bill

I'm all for it, but I've been let down too many times.

It’s live free to die lol

We have the lowest cost of liquor in the country. Why is that a bad thing?

They're not going to pass a bill than has LSD and mushrooms and shit loaded in it

This would be amazing, but I'm not holding my breath.

Good

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Like yes, but I also want hookah style bars, but for weed.

The other drugs it includes is no buenos. It needs to be killed in senate or vetoed.

I have an honest question. If it's illegal to grow here why is there or at least was a medical grow facility by the airport?

The liquor stores will be fine. There is little if any decrease in consumption of alcohol in legal states. What foundation exactly is undermined?

These added drugs are why this bill will fail. Bunch of morons in our state government. Everyone who voted against this will do so claiming they are open to legal cannabis but not the other drugs. Such whacko losers in our government

Possession is just a desk ticket. It's no worse then speeding.

Exactly. This is how they keep it from passing. Add these other drugs, then say they would vote for it if it weren’t for the other drugs…

The fact that statement exists is the issue.

Speeding endangers other motorists and pedestrians.

Smoking marijuana does not, unless you're driving.

These are not equivalent activities.

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The foundation of having state-owned liquor stores vs retail stores offering liquor.

If we have retail cannabis, retailers could challenge the state-run liquor system.

There is no connection. Pot is not alcohol. We also have retail tobacco.

Which can be removed via amendment in the Senate. Then the Senate votes on it. If it passes, it goes back to the House for concurrence on the Senate's amendment, and then on to the Governor.

This shoot for the moon trend on some bills is annoying. I saw a decent solar bill get killed today because some junior rep tried to increase solar use by 1170% for the next gabillion years. Little bights get the ball to the end zone overthrowing the receiver does not. *forgive my extremely shitty football analogy.

Once you find out which committee it is assigned to, write them or testify at the hearing. Advocate for the passage of the marijuana at a minimum even if they have to do a committee amendment to remove the hail mary drugs.

Senate has a bunch of “But the children…” legislators, of both parties, I’m guessing, the majority stodgy Republicans to boot.

While I agree, a ticket is far from jail time.

It’s not that much cheaper and most have to drive waaaaay farther to 1 of the state run stores. MA is closer to me than any of the state stores by a long way.

Depends on the weight of the container the weed is in, and if the cop is honest.

Scales can be manipulated.

.70 oz? ticket.

.79 oz? jail.

If you don’t hold it you don’t get as high though….

Do people actually think their going to sell pot inside the state liquor stores?? That would never happen. They’d have to open new storefronts and they’d be a million miles out of everyone’s way. Easier to just go to MA or ME.

I thought freedom involved guns? 'murca and all that

Where do you live? I legit can think of anywhere that is more than a 10 minute drive to a liquor store on the southern border. They are all over the place.

It is also significantly cheaper than mass. I would know because I went to school at umass Amherst but lived in Manchester NH. Every time I would go home I would buy tons of liquor for friends because some handles like captain Morgan’s was sometimes $10 cheaper. That’s like a 33% discount. This was in like 2010 though.

It doesn't undermine the state liquor stores in the slightest

Stores will be allowed on a town by town basis. As there is revenue attached to allowing pot stores, and every town is hurting on proper taxes, the incentive to allowing it is pretty strong. But yeah it won’t be next to a school.

What’s wrong with guns?

The stores produce a lot of tax money for the state and they generally pay decent as well. At least they did when I worked at one. Aside from that, since they have all the buying power collectively for the state, they actually get discounts from merchants since they can buy so much product in bulk. This is why the liquor stores in NH are cheaper than everywhere else. So not only do they provide a lot of tax revenue, they provide jobs and lower cost product. This would normally be the benefit of competing commercial companies but in this case the solution works just as well.

Who said anything was wrong with guns?

IT ALSO INVOLVES GUNS

.74 oz ticket

.76 oz handcuffs.

I'm aware of what I'm talking about.

Drugs and guns fuel the proletariat.
Fucking freedom indeed

. 74oz joint lmao. You don't

I just wish more doctors in NH weren't complete dicks about it.

They're fine with painkillers and drugs that could make my skin fall off, fine with prescribing otc stuff so I can save a dime, but not ok with a flower that helps me sleep, eat, stay calm and eases my pain? Wtf? You're not a doctor, you're a pill pusher.

psychedelics aren't that dangerous. I don't even think it's possible to OD on LSD. Could be very bad to use psychedelics if you have mental health issues though. But some people say they also help.

That said, very surprised they added those on. Feel like that's going to kill this bill.

I didn't say joint in that comment, however if you've ever seen Up in Smoke you'd know that's definitely possible

You ever own a gun? YOU EVER OWN A GUN…ON WEED??

Feels like they're trying to get it killed by doing that. Not ODing doesn't make it ok for me. Weed I'm indifferent about but the other drugs included make it a hard no for me.

Lol NH is not gonna go from “live free or die unless you have drugs” to “live free and do ALL THE DRUGS”

Pot would be one thing. But did I read this bill legalizes acid and other psychedelics as well? Lol that’d be a swell victory for libertarians but it will never pass the senate and Sununu won’t sign it.

Good!

I live in NH. I used to be pro-legalization. But my mind has been changed. I’m sick of seeing people smoking it while driving, in traffic. I’m tired of smelling it everywhere I go. If it’s ever up for a vote I’m voting no because the people doing it now aren’t responsible enough with it for it to be legalized. I don’t care about all the gateway dumb arguments, I just hate the smell of it and the fact that people are so incredibly irresponsible.

I was gonna say, I've found it much harder to buy liquor in MA than NH. There's more stores if you just want like, Smirnoff and Jack, but if you're looking for more craft stuff, higher end stuff, or interesting/unique stuff, the state stores in NH have a WAY better selection than most of the private stores in MA, and are much easier to get to.

Plus, the sticker price in MA might be only a little more but then you get sales tax slapped on top of it.

I think the state run stores start at $12-something an hour, but the benefits are ridiculous and all employees, even part time ones, get them.

Yeah, there's a lot of ways that a state monopoly on liquor sales could go wrong, but in NH it works well, and generates a shitload of revenue for the state which is not really tax revenue.

I would 100% be OK with NH doing a similar thing with dispensaries because that's just another revenue stream for the state that keeps our taxes from going up as fast.

Damn. When I worked at a store 10 years ago that was the going rate for the sales/laborers. Was hoping it woulda increased in ten years but guess not.

I for one would definitely be up for the state doing it to increase tax revenue, but I don't want to wait til fed government makes it legal for them to do it either.

.74 oz is what, a pretty full quart sized bag of bud?

Like, you MIGHT be able to make a joint out of it but it'd be fucking massive.

> This shoot for the moon trend on some bills is annoying. I saw a decent solar bill get killed today because some junior rep tried to increase solar use by 1170% for the next gabillion years.

It's like the "water protection bill" that was being discussed here yesterday. The standards that were set out in that were absolutely crazy high, to the point where some bottled water wouldn't pass, and the amount of PFAS in soil alone would probably cause a lot of water sources to be over the limit.

Like, let's protect our water, sure, but let's do it in a way that makes fucking sense and is reasonably possible.

Yeah, the NH senate has killed it the last several times it's brought up, but every time there's one or two more senators who vote for it as the dinosaurs like D'Alessandro leave.

It will eventually get passed in the senate, and even if Sununu vetoes, it's already pretty close to the veto override and could probably get there if they struck the psychedelics in an amendment.

Seems my info is out of date.

I can't find the exact numbers on the state website (and I'm sure it's there) but it looks like the going rate is at least $16 an hour for a clerk II plus they get part-time benefits. I think it's part of one of the state employee unions. So it's really not a bad gig. A lot of the older clerks I've talked to are there because it's something to do and I think they get healthcare even as part time.

In professor Farnsworth's voice It can involve 2 things. Why Shouldn't it?

Yeah that makes more sense. That's what I would have expected the rate to be. If I recall correctly, Sundays you get 1.5x and Holidays are also 1.5x and if both coincide you get 2x pay as well. So it's definitely a decent job overall if you get the hours.

Yeah. And even as someone who generally dislikes the government running shit and having a monopoly on it... I really can't complain about the way this state has set up liquor laws. It works well, the employees are treated well and have good benefits, and a lot of it is far cheaper than it is other places. And you can VERY easily find a specific bottle of something on the website and know exactly which store to go to if you want to purchase it. That is massively underrated if you're looking for something specific.

Hey, stranger things have happened. New York legalized weed. I figured that police state would be behind Texas on that, but the dirt on Cuomo was just that good. Creepy Cuomo legalized it just to try to save his job.

The lesson is clear: if you want legal weed, MeToo the slimy failson of your local political crime family. There is no way there isn’t dirt to be found. All these political dynasties are corrupt as fuck. Newsom and Pelosi, Cuomos, Kennedys, Sununus, Huckabees, they’re all rotten. Just find someone to credibly destroy his character and he’ll throw a prole a bone. Until then, he’s gonna sit high up there and sneer at us commoners like the silver spoon bitch he is.

I would never buy off the street anymore due to possibly having been laced with fentanyl. Dispensaries all day.

Edit- not everyone has the means to grow their own

Yeah it's always a situation of "it depends" and in this case it's been run efficiently so I support the government running it as well. An insider tip: depending on the store (the stores on 93 will sometimes do this - bigger stores more capability), you can request certain bottles that aren't in stock so long as you buy a couple bottles of it. So if there's like a rare whiskey or wine they don't have in stock throughout the state, some stores will order a case just to put on the shelf if they know a customer requested it and will buy a bottle or two.

I did

Yeah, especially if by means you mean space

well that's your problem then

Space, time, money etc

For me it's mostly space and money. But if I picked up more hours of work, it would be space and time!

Those rude people are like 1% of folks who benefit from it being legal. don’t punish so many

Well the feds won't let you have weed and guns, so there's that

If you lay 2 fingers across a baggie, that's roughly a quarter oz.

Trust me, where there is a will there is a way.

https://youtu.be/xrsbjjuDTzU

Live free or die! Carry pistols concealed with no permit! Ride motorcycles with no helmets! Smoke weed if you want to!... Oh wait

And yet, here we all are. Smoking pot and owning guns...

Yeah. That looks like a classic poison pill.

this is the only answer

That's a myth

CoreCivic Sununu you mean? Mr. $20k bribe from the private prison industry.

I know. I just thought it was funny that they used the phrase “holding my breath” in this context.

Your original comment said smoke a joint jail, then you moved the goal posts.

But I like guns so I don’t have a problem?

I hear these concerns but you have to imagine the changed context of legalization. You're not buying off the street. You're buying from your neighbor who put twenty plants in their mulch bed. You'd be surprised how much you can grow for yourself in just a couple pots.

John Stewart everybody!

Nice

Why can't we have BOTH.

The other factor here is that it brings in hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue for the state, which means hundreds of millions of dollars that's not collected through taxes, and my property taxes are already painful enough.

Insane that MA has legal marijuana and not the live free or die state right above it

And that sentiment is ironic for so many reasons..

Cool, I've also compiled a list of things I hate the smell of that should therefor be made illegal.

• Liturgical incense
• Tequila
• Fried Clams
• Garbage Trucks
• Gasoline

>not everyone has the means to grow their own

but you don't know a single person who could?

man i can't imagine what it's like to have never bought weed off the "street," texting your friend of a friend from the parking lot he told you to meet at 15 minutes after he told you to be there saying "u still coming? no rush just checking" hoping not to piss this stranger off so you can get a bag of weed. now kids be like gimme that government stamp on my pill bottle of flower

why are you using the least likely scenario to prove your point

I’m not sure about the cultivation part because I’ve read a few times now that they home cultivation part had to be omitted to please certain people and that it would be a separate bill all together. From what I understand medical patients would be able to grow 3 flowering plant, 3 non flowering and 12 seedlings. We would also have to register our small grows with the state. Which is nuts.

I'd be fine with cultivation and possession being legalized without dispensaries, honestly.

Why bother with hyperbole here? Simple possession is so normalized and decriminalized that a single joint specifically cannot land you in jail. Just let the facts speak for themselves.

You know in MA you can't have more than an ounce, right.

So... if they lay 3 fingers across a baggie, jail there too. Not to mention, smoking one in public is theoretically illegal.

I tried growing cannabis once and it's pretty difficult, at least indoors. Maybe it's easier if you plant outdoors.

My wife has worked in a few dispensaries in MA. They are disgusting and hide shit from regulators. They won't shut down operations when they get mildew outbreaks they just dunk flower in H2O2. Home grown is a lot better, so is black market.

I also just disagree with how gross the dispensary model is. It's so much consumption, construction, resource usage, etc. Kind of against everything that traditionally pot smokers were into. Especially with something that really is not difficult to produce yourself

You're a fucking troll - new account loaded with provocative comments. Test lightly. This is your first warning

😅 when I lived in MA and had my medical marijuana card, I had to wait until it expired to get my LTC. They will not issue one to anyone with a med card (or at least they didn’t at the time) because having one means you’re legally under the influence, regardless of it being “medicine.”

However, if you get the LTC first, and THEN the med card, it’s a different process. Med marijuana people don’t look into it the way that firearms licensers do. Nothing makes any sense. My LTC instructor literally said “oh it’s fine, just let it expire. Get your LTC first and then renew your med card- not the other way around. They check.” I’m like oh?

Then I moved to NH, where it was much easier to purchase a firearm (just a quick background check in the gun shop) than it was finding weed to smoke (illegally) 😬

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Absolutely. At the time, the store I worked at would bring in around $20m/yr for the state all while having the revenue to pay employees well and extra for divestiture and investing into the liquor commission.

Colognes and perfumes, scented cleaners, olives, stinky cheese

It was passed with a veto proof majority two years ago and two senators flipped to not override the veto.

They were Manchester democrats, and the Manch PD gets a lot of federal funding to fight the opioid crisis that they wouldn’t qualify for if it was passed, apparently.

So.. yeah.

Driving impaired is already illegal.

We can… as soon as it is legal federally. Until then the state can’t open dispensaries because it violates federal law.

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Get over yourself you tool. Lighten up. Look at you; “this is your first warning.” Look at how up tight your are over nothing. You sound fucking ridiculous.

Comments that don’t align with your ferry tale dumpster opinions aren’t provocative. You’re just a dumb ass. Reddit isn’t reality. Get outside and touch some grass. Just ban me now because you’re mad, got some internet power and get it over with. Flex your Reddit penis😂

Test lightly, he says. Like anything you say means anything to anybody.

True, but at some point the State will want to monetize cannabis. The surrounding states are making a killing in tax revenue. I gotta believe some of that comes from folks switching away from alcohol, or at least cutting back. Some NH folks must be going out of state for their cannabis. That’s lost revenue for NH.